Bowtech Destroyer
01-30-2010, 12:22 AM
#41
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Southern MD
Posts: 2,520
If you like to believe people with made up internet names that throw out a lot of unsubstantiated and unverifiable "facts" then I suppose the internet may be a good place to learn about manufacturer defects. If it's on the internet it must be true LOL.
Me personally, I am always dismissal of "facts" that come from an unnamed friend of an unnamed person on the internet. These "facts" could be coming from someone recently fired from a manufacturer because they were a sorry ass employee and now they just want to spread the "real truth" LOL.
The internet is good for finding out real facts but, real facts are linked to real people and can be verified and substantiated. So, when I am looking for facts on the internet, I always consider the source
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Me personally, I am always dismissal of "facts" that come from an unnamed friend of an unnamed person on the internet. These "facts" could be coming from someone recently fired from a manufacturer because they were a sorry ass employee and now they just want to spread the "real truth" LOL.
The internet is good for finding out real facts but, real facts are linked to real people and can be verified and substantiated. So, when I am looking for facts on the internet, I always consider the source
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01-30-2010, 02:52 AM
#42
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 21,043
Well, maybe I am unlucky. Out of all the staff, you are the one I still have confidense in. I notice you generally stay out of the "spin", and usually do not belittle or demean "customers". And I thank you for that. Your integrity is safe with me.
But you are very close to these people. Seems like personally and professionally. And sometimes that makes people see things in a different light. For instance the father the sideline watching his son not getting any gametime, and he beleives his son is the next Joe Montana. Rest of us have a different take. I mean the father truely believes his son is that good.
But you are very close to these people. Seems like personally and professionally. And sometimes that makes people see things in a different light. For instance the father the sideline watching his son not getting any gametime, and he beleives his son is the next Joe Montana. Rest of us have a different take. I mean the father truely believes his son is that good.
My only dog in this fight (as someone who's owned SEVERAL Bowtechs) is:
1. Highlight what BC wrote as my own take
2. Second his attitude towards bowtech shooter (Pat)
3. Agree that things said in the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.
and 4.....
blacktail....DO NOT give out your personal information in a public forum....ESPECIALLY in this arena (this type of subject). TRUST ME....there are some highly sick individuals (that peruse these type forums) that will go to ANY LENGTH to make your life hell. You don't need that. You'd rather be called a "liar". Trust me on this. DO NOT give out your personal info.
I'll say it, again. Pat (Bowtech shooter) is a stand-up guy. I'd share anything with him (IN PRIVATE). You do what you think is right.
I'm not saying you're telling the truth. I'm not saying you're lying. I'm saying don't share your personal information.
01-30-2010, 07:42 AM
#44
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Onamia,MN.
Posts: 1,375
Customer service should be #1 on any companies agenda(repeat customers are a GOOD thing).Everyone brags up the equipment they own---until they have a problem with it,then the blame game starts and it's a blown out of proportion situation,but the numbers speak for themselves if everyone stays on track and sticks to the actual facts.
04-27-2010, 08:49 PM
#45
Spike
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1
I would like to address Matt at Bowtech in this issue. To verify that I am not BSing, a young guy named Chris is your customer service guy. My 82nd is less that a year old and I am having several of these issues including: cam lean (which I was told was normal), strings rubbing, I clicking sound when I can to full draw loud enough to alert deer, riser flexing and finally, my limbs started coming apart; in fact a piece flew out of them.
I'm the only owner of this bow. Never let anyone shoot is or draw it.. No dry fires... So tell me all this is happening?
You put your name out there and were pretty ****y about it. I understand your pride in working for a company, but my situation is factual and I have had these issues, which I have not had on other bows. Unfortunately, I spent the money on a Bowtech and now I am really paying the price. I bought the top of the line and it has shot well, but when a bow has all these issues; Matt would you buy another Bowtech? Would you trust it on a trophy hunt where you spent thousands of dollars to have your bow let you down?
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech
Matt, I am not a fan of any company. I go for the best bow and not the best name. Right now, Bowtech has let me down.
I'm the only owner of this bow. Never let anyone shoot is or draw it.. No dry fires... So tell me all this is happening?
You put your name out there and were pretty ****y about it. I understand your pride in working for a company, but my situation is factual and I have had these issues, which I have not had on other bows. Unfortunately, I spent the money on a Bowtech and now I am really paying the price. I bought the top of the line and it has shot well, but when a bow has all these issues; Matt would you buy another Bowtech? Would you trust it on a trophy hunt where you spent thousands of dollars to have your bow let you down?
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech
Matt, I am not a fan of any company. I go for the best bow and not the best name. Right now, Bowtech has let me down.
04-28-2010, 06:22 AM
#46
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I would like to address Matt at Bowtech in this issue. To verify that I am not BSing, a young guy named Chris is your customer service guy. My 82nd is less that a year old and I am having several of these issues including: cam lean (which I was told was normal), strings rubbing, I clicking sound when I can to full draw loud enough to alert deer, riser flexing and finally, my limbs started coming apart; in fact a piece flew out of them.
I'm the only owner of this bow. Never let anyone shoot is or draw it.. No dry fires... So tell me all this is happening?
You put your name out there and were pretty ****y about it. I understand your pride in working for a company, but my situation is factual and I have had these issues, which I have not had on other bows. Unfortunately, I spent the money on a Bowtech and now I am really paying the price. I bought the top of the line and it has shot well, but when a bow has all these issues; Matt would you buy another Bowtech? Would you trust it on a trophy hunt where you spent thousands of dollars to have your bow let you down?
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech
Matt, I am not a fan of any company. I go for the best bow and not the best name. Right now, Bowtech has let me down.
I'm the only owner of this bow. Never let anyone shoot is or draw it.. No dry fires... So tell me all this is happening?
You put your name out there and were pretty ****y about it. I understand your pride in working for a company, but my situation is factual and I have had these issues, which I have not had on other bows. Unfortunately, I spent the money on a Bowtech and now I am really paying the price. I bought the top of the line and it has shot well, but when a bow has all these issues; Matt would you buy another Bowtech? Would you trust it on a trophy hunt where you spent thousands of dollars to have your bow let you down?
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech
Matt, I am not a fan of any company. I go for the best bow and not the best name. Right now, Bowtech has let me down.
But I have say, Matt generally does not come on here banging the bowtech drum. I myself respect him and Greg, and Pat. He does a good job at not coming on here belittling long time customers. Others, I cannot say such good words about and they hurt bowtech. Generally if Matt can help, he will post. He won't come on here telling you "I don't have trouble, so you are making it up". And thats how a person in this business should behave.
I too am unhappy with bowtech. Hope you get your bow fixed.
05-02-2010, 05:16 AM
#47
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location:
Posts: 7,367
I would like to address Matt at Bowtech in this issue. To verify that I am not BSing, a young guy named Chris is your customer service guy. My 82nd is less that a year old and I am having several of these issues including: cam lean (which I was told was normal), strings rubbing, I clicking sound when I can to full draw loud enough to alert deer, riser flexing and finally, my limbs started coming apart; in fact a piece flew out of them.
I'm the only owner of this bow. Never let anyone shoot is or draw it.. No dry fires... So tell me all this is happening?
You put your name out there and were pretty ****y about it. I understand your pride in working for a company, but my situation is factual and I have had these issues, which I have not had on other bows. Unfortunately, I spent the money on a Bowtech and now I am really paying the price. I bought the top of the line and it has shot well, but when a bow has all these issues; Matt would you buy another Bowtech? Would you trust it on a trophy hunt where you spent thousands of dollars to have your bow let you down?
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech
Matt, I am not a fan of any company. I go for the best bow and not the best name. Right now, Bowtech has let me down.
I'm the only owner of this bow. Never let anyone shoot is or draw it.. No dry fires... So tell me all this is happening?
You put your name out there and were pretty ****y about it. I understand your pride in working for a company, but my situation is factual and I have had these issues, which I have not had on other bows. Unfortunately, I spent the money on a Bowtech and now I am really paying the price. I bought the top of the line and it has shot well, but when a bow has all these issues; Matt would you buy another Bowtech? Would you trust it on a trophy hunt where you spent thousands of dollars to have your bow let you down?
Matt Mickey
Key Accounts Specialist
Bowtech
Matt, I am not a fan of any company. I go for the best bow and not the best name. Right now, Bowtech has let me down.
I am on Corporate staff with BowTech and if you PM me the dealer name and a way to contact you and/or your dealer I will see if I can be of any help.
That's all I can offer.
I owned & shot and 08 & an 09 82nd and had very good Luck with them. I know every situation can be different.
Dan
05-02-2010, 09:24 AM
#48
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Hughesville, PA
Posts: 2,590
Mav, just a comment on your first post. (if indeed this is your first post) Probably not the best idea to dig up a 3 month old thread to bash a moderator and well respected person on this site. If you must, make a new post or better yet, pm him with your issues. There's really no need for you to complain about him on open forum space. If you had pm'd him, you would have likely found out just what an asset he is to his company and this site, when he is here. (which is less and less due to the BS)
Oh, yeah....better cover my butt. All of the above.......IMO.
Oh, yeah....better cover my butt. All of the above.......IMO.
Last edited by Ben / PA; 05-06-2010 at 10:49 AM.
05-02-2010, 10:52 AM
#49
Typical Buck
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 996
I used to be a bowtech fan and I guess I still am but I look at a bow differently now. Before I didn't care much for other brands.
Now I look at the bow's features, pro and cons and then at the name or brand. I still think without the advertising and mediahype that the destroyer is a damn good bow. I have two of my friends get one when I was on holiday in the US and they both shoot better scores. I checked out both their bows and they are precision equipment, period. Just like the Z7's, the Maxxis and other high end bows. I have two bowstore owners who shoot at my range and they have the same problems on different bows, mostly due to human errors or just plain dumb mistakes.
So, Bowtech isn't worse or better in this category. But I have never heard of those problems on new or fairly new bows.
I shoot a 82nd 09 which I dryfired twice and had a hard time retuning after a new set of strings and cables but the riser and the limbs are in perfect condition and my cams are still where they supposed to be.
Frank
Belgium
Now I look at the bow's features, pro and cons and then at the name or brand. I still think without the advertising and mediahype that the destroyer is a damn good bow. I have two of my friends get one when I was on holiday in the US and they both shoot better scores. I checked out both their bows and they are precision equipment, period. Just like the Z7's, the Maxxis and other high end bows. I have two bowstore owners who shoot at my range and they have the same problems on different bows, mostly due to human errors or just plain dumb mistakes.
So, Bowtech isn't worse or better in this category. But I have never heard of those problems on new or fairly new bows.
I shoot a 82nd 09 which I dryfired twice and had a hard time retuning after a new set of strings and cables but the riser and the limbs are in perfect condition and my cams are still where they supposed to be.
Frank
Belgium
05-06-2010, 05:08 AM
#50
Typical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Central PA
Posts: 829
I haven't shot the new Destroyer 350 yet because I know I would end up buying one just as I bought an Admiral a year after having bought a Parker. I Love my Bowtech and have not had any issues and wouldn't buy a bow from any other manufacturer. I work at an archery shop where numerous brands are sold and 2 of the guys i work with had 09 model Bowtechs and ended up buying the destroyers as soon as they shot them. One of those destoyers was dry fired and the limbs did shatter. Bowtech was contacted and it was explained to them what had happened, They replaced the needed parts at no extra expense. They went above and beyond my expectations to ensure satisfaction in their equipment. My experience has been great with Bowtech and will do business with them again without hesitation.