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Old 01-13-2010, 08:26 PM
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So I have seen posts on not getting the broadheads to group like field tips so I am going to post a few tips on tuning arrows.As long as you are following these tips you should never have to ajust your sights from field tips to broadheads and your groups should be the same as your field tips.tuning tips:get your broadhaeds to shoot like field tips-2-2-.jpg First start off with your arrow cut to legnth and insert in and glue dry if using a internal insert.If you have a regular insert or aluminum arrow there will be different steps. you will need a grinding stone as shown in picture.you can get them at your local pro shop.second a broadhead the same weight as your field tip.tuning tips:get your broadhaeds to shoot like field tips-2-4-.jpg The second step for internal inserts is to spin the arrow putting pressure on the arrow grinding it until the blades line up with the broadheadtuning tips:get your broadhaeds to shoot like field tips-2-3-.jpgspin the arrow on your hand and check for wobbles in the shaft.tuning tips:get your broadhaeds to shoot like field tips-2-1-.jpgIf there are wobbles take off the broadhead and repeat the grinding method over.grind down only enuf to make the broadhead line up with the next fletching check for wobbles and repeat if neccicary.sometimes it will take a few times to get a true tune.the arrow should have zero wobble in it and line up perfect.doing this will make your arrows fly true and just the same as a field point.
now if you have regular inserts when putting the insert in I will use a slow cure glue and do the same steps pretty much.Put the broadhead in the insert without glue.grind arrow as shown.put in insert and check the tuning as shown.once tuned add the glue and line up the broadhead.spin tune and rotate from fletch to fletch till the tune is true.set arrow with the broadhead strait up till glue dries. don't set the arrow on the broadhead anywhere.Hopefully this helps some people.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:10 PM
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Ok now what if I have a 2 blade broad head or a 4 blade broad head how do I line those up with my fletching?

Lining up blades with the fletching is an old wives tale and does absolutely nothing.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:42 PM
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I can't belive they said it's a wise tale.Would you shoot a bent arrow? The tuning puts the wieght placement of the broadhead even.If the broadhead is off center the arrow will loop when shot. an off center broadhead causes the arrow to fly untrue becouse while in flight the wieght offcenter during the spin of the arrow causes the arrow to fly off axis.if you want to test this get a cheap broadhed that will not tune and set it off tune and shoot it threw paper.it's simple logic. As for 4 bladed broadheads they will line up just fine for 4 fletched arrows which they were originally designed for. and most two bladed broadheads are mechanical or ment for recurves.mechanical broadheads you tune for any fletch broadhead and the blades are closed on flight. and the lining of the fletches is all aerodynamics..science has brought archery a long ways. and this post was only to give help if you don't like my methods don't use them.
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Old 01-14-2010, 01:19 AM
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Blacktail-that myth was shattered years ago. PSE even has a video of an arrow in a air chamber in slow motion, which a shortened version has been posted on here.
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Old 01-14-2010, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Big John
Blacktail-that myth was shattered years ago. PSE even has a video of an arrow in a air chamber in slow motion, which a shortened version has been posted on here.

Hey, this same guy is recommending a guy with a 70lb Xforce shoot a .5" spined arrow in another post. This says alot.
 
Old 01-14-2010, 06:38 AM
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Hey, this same guy is recommending a guy with a 70lb Xforce shoot a .5" spined arrow in another post. This says alot.
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From reading his posts it's clear he has no idea.

He's probably only 15 and trying to big note himself.
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Old 01-14-2010, 07:04 AM
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[quote=blacktail4ever;3554362]So I have seen posts on not getting the broadheads to group like field tips so I am going to post a few tips on tuning arrows.As long as you are following these tips you should never have to ajust your sights from field tips to broadheads and your groups should be the same as your field tips.Attachment 6936 First start off with your arrow cut to legnth and insert in and glue dry if using a internal insert.If you have a regular insert or aluminum arrow there will be different steps. you will need a grinding stone as shown in picture.you can get them at your local pro shop.second a broadhead the same weight as your field tip.Attachment 6935 The second step for internal inserts is to spin the arrow putting pressure on the arrow grinding it until the blades line up with the broadheadAttachment 6933spin the arrow on your hand and check for wobbles in the shaft.Attachment 6934If there are wobbles take off the broadhead and repeat the grinding method over.grind down only enuf to make the broadhead line up with the next fletching check for wobbles and repeat if neccicary.sometimes it will take a few times to get a true tune.the arrow should have zero wobble in it and line up perfect.doing this will make your arrows fly true and just the same as a field point.
now if you have regular inserts when putting the insert in I will use a slow cure glue and do the same steps pretty much.Put the broadhead in the insert without glue.grind arrow as shown.put in insert and check the tuning as shown.once tuned add the glue and line up the broadhead.spin tune and rotate from fletch to fletch till the tune is true.set arrow with the broadhead strait up till glue dries. don't set the arrow on the broadhead anywhere.Hopefully this helps some people.[/quote

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Old 01-14-2010, 09:49 AM
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Look slander my words and talk all you want.I have more years dealing with this than most.most of you will try this anyways.If I am wrong why do easton arrows come with tuning stones.I told you to take the test.shoot a arrow that is untuned at 40 yards and a tuned arrow and see what flys better.I will have this test demo and have photos at the league shoot today to prove my post.And as for my backroundI have been in league shoots since I was seven and now have over 20 years shooting I come from a family who took state every year since my grandpa was in his 20's.my grandfather worked and was buissness partners with martin archery when compounds were 1st invented.we all have worked in archery shops and for bowtech building bows.we go to trade shows andhunt religously. I have more pope and young bucks than most people. I think I have a little knowledge
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:15 AM
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here are some sites by the pros to prove my post
http://www.bowhuntingmag.com/tactics...d_flight/#cont

The Well-Tuned Bow
The first thing you have to do is make sure your setup is truly tuned. Don't be fooled into thinking that your bow is in tune because you can shoot tight groups with field points. Field points can be very forgiving, and it's possible for an out-of-tune bow to shoot one-inch groups at 20 yards with field points. (This is why mechanical broadheads tend to group better. They're much more like field points.)



Most broadheads, however, aren't going to let you get away with bad tuning, especially if you have a fast bow. This is because the blades on a broadhead can act like wings and steer an arrow all over a target face. Launch an arrow poorly and the blades will catch air and drift off target right from the start.
read the rest of this artical

http://www.parsonsoutdoors.com/broadhead_tuning.html
http://www.muzzy.com/muzzy_help/broadhead_tuning.htm
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st...&storeId=10151
http://www.pabucks.com/broadhead_tuning.html
http://bowsite.com/bowsite/features/...ght/index.html

need I post more I will fill a whole page.Look at these sites before you critise my post....
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Old 01-14-2010, 10:17 AM
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Man, the guy is just trying to give a little free advice. I agree it doesn't seem to do much lining up blades with fletches but it is fun to tinker with anyways. No need to jump his nads like their some kind of gummie bear.
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