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hardcorehunter 12-26-2009 05:35 AM

Strother Archery bows are shipping/site up to date
 
Guys are starting to get their long awaited bows. I sold two of my Elites so that I can make room for my new SR-71. It should be arriving soon. This is the 1st time I have ordered a bow, sight unseen. Kevin knows how to build a bow and I have loved every bow he has designed to date. The reviews on these Strother bows have all been very positive. They come with Predator camo as the pattern. I ordered mine in the AT version...Predator camo riser with black limbs. It is a speed bow with an IBO in excess of 350 fps, and all reports say it is a smooth draw and very quiet.

http://www.strotherarchery.com/

A pic of Karbons' Vanquish


hardcorehunter 01-09-2010 04:47 PM

Also a heads up on the Strothers lineup. They offer a 55-65# bow. The ONLY 5# peak weight you can get is the 55-65# bow. All others are 40-50,50-60,60-70,70-80,80-90.




At Strother Archery we set out with the desire to design the ultimate “all around” bow, out of this desire we produced the Infinity. With features that work great in the woods or on the target range. This bow incorporates a very forgiving brace height of 7 1/8”, along with “aiming” stability derived from the 34” axle to axle. Producing efficiency ratings of 90%+ allows the Infinity to maintain an exceptionally smooth draw while attaining speeds that are unmatched in the industry.




Everything about the Vanquish says “hunting”, utilizing a short axle to axle, the Vanquish will be easy to carry on long hikes, ascend into your treestand silently, or take that tight quarters shot out of a ground blind. Boasting almost a 8” brace height to ensure forgiveness, eliminating the worry of hunting with heavy clothing. Like all the bows in our lineup, it has a silky smooth draw, but produces amazing speeds!





The name of this bow says it all, the SR-71 blackbird aircraft is the fastest plane ever built. The SR-71 is smoking fast, considering the smooth draw cycle and 6 1/8” forgiving brace height, the SR-71 will leave you amazed. When compared to other bows in its class, at true measured specs, this bow blows them away. If you have the need for speed, the SR-71 is the bow for you!




kyhunter93 01-10-2010 05:42 AM

Any word on prices to the general public?

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by kyhunter93 (Post 3551639)
Any word on prices to the general public?

Around $749-$780

GMMAT 01-10-2010 06:20 AM

They'll sell a ton of those bows....based on the camo pattern, alone (it's just true). It's bad-ass (the predator)....and it's a smart move that will likely pay off.

I can only guess ($$) why the "more" mainstream bow companies haven't tried to land (or....the other way around) the newer, open-pattern camos for their bows. It's a trend I'm not sure we'll see more of any time soon, though (unless the camo companies relax their licensing requirements and make it more palatable, financially, for the mfr's).

Teaming up and getting this pattern on a new line is a win-win for both companies.....especially if there's an exclusivisity agreement between them.

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 06:35 AM

Yea, Kevin gets quietness, extreme speed, with a nice draw cycle, hand shock free,and knows how to engineer bows. He listens to his customers and asked us back point blank, when he was with Elite, on Elites forum, what we wanted in a new bow lineup. We gave him the above list, and we also told him we wanted Predator camo. He listened.I trust Karbon's reviews on bows. Karbon goes through bows constantly, and his Vanquish is his favorite to date. The Vanquish may be in my stable too, it sounds like the perfect hunting bow with it's specs. But then, I would have to consider parting with my beloved GTO, and that may be hard to do. My GTO has been shot 4 times at animals, and has resulted in 4 deer that died within sight of my stand, and one turkey. I know one thing, if I don't like my SR-71, I can put it in the classifieds on AT and get my money back, as guys are fighting to get one, the supply is low, and demand is high. His Elite lineup and the 06 Bowtechs he designed, are still selling well and demanding top dollar. Elites' new transferable lifetime warranty, regardless of ownership, and hunt guarantee, is unprecedented in the Archery compound bow makers world.
I see where ASAT is now offering their pattern to the bow dippers for aftermarket dipping, and I would like to see a bow dipped in this too. Guys for years have been sending their bows to get dipped in Predator as you well know. Now, they don't have to.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 08:34 AM

Maybe there are those that would buy a Bow based on pattern alone, but I Never would. Dipping a Bow to suit your personal needs is far too easy. :happy0001:

I would never drop that kind of $$ on a Bow I never had in my Hands either. There are too many quality bows that I personally don't like the feel of and/or just do Not fit me correct.

Bows are a very personal choice! What some like I may Not care for, and what I like may Not be for someone else. I'd like to shoot one but I have yet to see a dealer that has one in stock and won't hold my breath either. I would Not Drive over 200 miles to shoot one either. I shot a few of the Elites!;)

Dan

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by MeanV2 (Post 3551756)
Maybe there are those that would buy a Bow based on pattern alone, but I Never would. Dipping a Bow to suit your personal needs is far too easy. :happy0001:

$200, disassembly, shipping the bow, and reassembling the bow is not what I consider easy. It also voids the warranty in most cases. I know you have sent your bow to get dipped in Predator, now a company is already doing what the customer wants. :happy0001:


Originally Posted by MeanV2 (Post 3551756)
I would never drop that kind of $$ on a Bow I never had in my Hands either. There are too many quality bows that I personally don't like the feel of and/or just do Not fit me correct.

Bows are a very personal choice! What some like I may Not care for, and what I like may Not be for someone else. I'd like to shoot one but I have yet to see a dealer that has one in stock and won't hold my breath either. I would Not Drive over 200 miles to shoot one either. I shot a few of the Elites!;)

Dan

Of course not, you are a Bowtech Dealer, why would you shoot anything else besides a Bowtech, or give anything but a rave review for anything besides a Bowtech? I don't take to heart ANY review/advice on a bow brand, if that person is a dealer or is affiliated with the company and benefits financially. When a certain dealer or advisory staff member for a bow maker discredits or talks negativity of any other bow maker, I know their judgement is clouded for financial reasons. I have owned many Bowtechs, including the 06 Tribute. I also owned the 06 Elite E-Force. No one(except Bowtech dealers) will dispute, that the E-Force is a superior bow over the Tribute. It was the cadillac version of the Tribute(better grip, Barnsdale Limbs), as it and the Tribute were both engineered by the same designer(Kevin Strothers) in the same year. Bowtech dealers would still be raving about Kevin Strothers, had he not left Bowtech, took his pretty and famous Martin Archery wife, Kate, and started Elite Archery. Like him or hate him, the guy knows how to engineer a bow. That is why, his designs are something that I can buy sight unseen. I like his tastes in bow designs. Anyone that likes Bowtechs, loves Elites, and will love the Strothers' lineup. That is of course, unless they are a Bowtech dealer/or a corporate staff member and not an Elite or Strothers' dealer:D

MeanV2 01-10-2010 11:01 AM

Not a BowTech dealer and I always shoot as many Flagship bows as I can get my hands on. I will say the Z7 is a very nice bow. As far as the Hoyt my favorite bow there would still be the AlphaMax.

I'd like to shoot the Strother bows but would not drive over 200 miles to do so, when in reality I doubt it will blow away anything I've already shot.:guiness:

BowTech pays No bills for me Don. Like I said i'd Love to shoot it. I'm sure it's Nice, but I still wouldn't spend that kind of $$ on a bow I had Not personally shot. I wanted to shoot the New Martin a couple of years ago but after calling every dealer within 200 miles and getting the same answer, we don't stock them as they just won't sell in this area. I gave up! Not my words! Words of guys that were supposed to be dealers.

Lots of Nice Bows out there and many times I realize a guy's decision is based on what to purchase depending on what is accessible.

I Totally understand that!:)

Sorry Don even dealers are allowed an opinion:rolleye0011: You see I can pretty much deal with whatever I want to, and if not I have dealer friends in 3 states that would allow me to do some swapping.:)

Dan

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 11:21 AM

Good post Dan. The Z7 is my favorite Mathews to date. The aphamax didn't trip my trigger, and I have yet to shoot the new Hoyt lineup for 2110. Hey Dan, when did you quit selling Bowtechs and are you not a corporate advisory Bowtech staff guy anymore?

GMMAT 01-10-2010 11:30 AM

Don:

Maybe you should word it "gain from, financially". I suppose a BT staffer could choose to sell all the bows he's allowed to purchase at below cost pricing (and the ones given to him for free)......for no profit. (In all fairness....they aren't totally "free". They (BT) get their money's worth via the information highway AND the advertising on the forums. But ,I'd venture a guess that isn't how most do it. And I KNOW that's not how some do it.

I don't begrudge them this. I don't discount it, either.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by GMMAT (Post 3551827)
Don:

Maybe you should word it "gain from, financially". I suppose a BT staffer could choose to sell all the bows he's allowed to purchase at below cost pricing (and the ones given to him for free)......for no profit. (In all fairness....they aren't totally "free". They (BT) get their money's worth via the information highway AND the advertising on the forums. But ,I'd venture a guess that isn't how most do it. And I KNOW that's not how some do it.

I don't begrudge them this. I don't discount it, either.

Jeff, As hard as it is for You to believe anyone would do something where there was No financial gain. Believe it! I spent over $3000 last year in Gas and Lost time to work shows. I asked for No reimbursement. My Choice? Sure!! If I was trying to gain financially I would think I'd turn in mileage.

We are allowed to. I support BowTech for one reason and one reason only. I believe in them and their products.

Some of your posts about this gives me a Good Laugh! Keep it up!:happy0157:

Dan

GMMAT 01-10-2010 12:02 PM

Hey, I said I don't begrudge you what you get from Bowtech for free (and otherwise). And, what you choose to expense or not expense is between you and your wife.

I'm not sure what's so funny....unless I said something that wasn't 100% correct (in which I'll humbly recant). Let me know if there's anything I mis-stated.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by GMMAT (Post 3551844)
Hey, I said I don't begrudge you what you get from Bowtech for free (and otherwise). And, what you choose to expense or not expense is between you and your wife.

Right!! I Pay for what I get. Not Free! The Bow that I shoot now is what I choose to shoot. Always has and always will be.

Thought I'd keep it short so you can read and Comprehend at the same time.:poke:

Dan

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-10-2010 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by hardcorehunter (Post 3551783)
Kevin Strothers, had he not left Bowtech,

In keeping facts straight, he was fired, not left...

Carry on.

GMMAT 01-10-2010 12:32 PM

Like I said, Dan....if I stated something untrue....please point out which portion that is......and I'll recant.

We're arguing semantics. Or, you're wording your repsonses to fit your agenda.

I suppose we could have said.....you get bows from Bowtech that you are not invoiced for. And, you're allowed to purchase even more bows at prices lower than dealer cost. If you choose to resale those bows for no gain.....my bet is you're in the minority. And, I know you'd be the only one I know who does so.

Again.....I don't begrudge you that......nor do I discount it.

And....if you'd never posted in another mfr's thread, the subject likely wouldn't have come up. You're certainly free to do as you've done. But, you kinda open the door when you do so.

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by hardcorehunter (Post 3551818)
Hey Dan, when did you quit selling Bowtechs and are you not a corporate advisory Bowtech staff guy anymore?

Perhaps this question was overlooked accidentally. :confused0024:

mdewitt71 01-10-2010 01:19 PM

Well I for one own SEVERAL Bowtechs and am still buying a Strother SR-71........
I won't say it is an awesome bow cause I never held one but, Kevin has never made a Lemon so, I am thinking I am pretty safe on liking it. :biggrin:

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by mdewitt71 (Post 3551904)
Well I for one own SEVERAL Bowtechs and am still buying a Strother SR-71........
I won't say it is an awesome bow cause I never held one but, Kevin has never made a Lemon so, I am thinking I am pretty safe on liking it. :biggrin:

:DI have yet to shoot a New Breed Genetix, but I know I would like one of these without question too. Everything I read from archers that have bought or shot these is "Wow." Same opinion with you evidentially, as I see one in your sig.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 01:28 PM

Don, I Never was a BowTech Dealer. Shows How much you don't know. If there was ever any doubt.

Jeff, Bottom line is I don't Turn in any mileage and I am allowed to do that. I have also paid for meals that could be turned in as expenses. Does that sound like someone that is in something for the Financial gain, but yet I'm turning down $$.

I am Sure you would Never be into anything without a Financial gain no more than you would want a friend that brings nothing to the Table. Your words Not mine.

Like I've said thousands of times I shoot and support what I believe in. I don't need, want, or even expect a financial gain. That's upsurd!!

You know how many Bows I have Given away to youth? Nothing beats the excitement from someone wanting to get started in Archery when you hand them over a Bow and offer to teach them how to shoot.

That's My Gain!! I Love it!! Sorry you can't understand that:cool2:

Really makes me No difference! You can try to discredit me or my opinion all you want to. It does Not change the facts of who I am or what I am about. I feel Sorry for you in many ways!! and I really don't mind you following me around like a little Lost puppy. :kiss:

Dan

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by MeanV2 (Post 3551908)
Don, I Never was a BowTech Dealer. Shows How much you don't know. If there was ever any doubt.

Jeff, Bottom line is I don't Turn in any mileage and I am allowed to do that. I have also paid for meals that could be turned in as expenses. Does that sound like someone that is in something for the Financial gain, but yet I'm turning down $$.

I am Sure you would Never be into anything without a Financial gain no more than you would want a friend that brings nothing to the Table. Your words Not mine.

Like I've said thousands of times I shoot and support what I believe in. I don't need, want, or even expect a financial gain. That's upsurd!!

You know how many Bows I have Given away to youth? Nothing beats the excitement from someone wanting to get started in Archery when you hand them over a Bow and offer to teach them how to shoot.

That's My Gain!! I Love it!! Sorry you can't understand that:cool2:

Really makes me No difference! You can try to discredit me or my opinion all you want to. It does Not change the facts of who I am or what I am about. I feel Sorry for you in many ways!! and I really don't mind you following me around like a little Lost puppy. :kiss:

Dan

I didn't see where you answered whether you are a Corporate Bowtech staff advisor still, or ever was? You kind of avoided that answer, huh? So, dealer smealer, you still financially benefit from Bowtech with kickbacks, discounts on bows, or free bows, or all of the above; correct? Shows how much I really know:D

GMMAT 01-10-2010 01:37 PM


no more than you would want a friend that brings nothing to the Table. Your words Not mine.
Well that's another thread of yours. And, I'd say my view was pretty popular there, too. Hell no I don't want a "friend" who brings nothing to the table. Not much of a friend, if you asked me.

I'm sorry you took offense to what I posted (in this thread). If you'll point out what's untrue, I'll remove it.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by mdewitt71 (Post 3551904)
Well I for one own SEVERAL Bowtechs and am still buying a Strother SR-71........
I won't say it is an awesome bow cause I never held one but, Kevin has never made a Lemon so, I am thinking I am pretty safe on liking it. :biggrin:

Mike, That's your choice, and like I said Archery is filled full of personal choices. I just stated my personal opinions and also stated I'm sure it would be a Nice Bow, but...................................

Why would I want to pay big $$ for a Bow I can't shoot when there are several Great bows at my disposal at a greatly reduced price also. Hoyt, Mathews, BowTech. I'll just deal close to Home. My choice not yours, and I respect yours. I also respect Don's but still wouldn't do it myself. Never would!

It gets tiring when the exact same guys try to discredit your opinion when they have No idea what they are talking about. At least I know those that actually know me, know better.

I'm Sorry if my opinion doesn't line up with everyone's. I do have a Right to it!:happy0001:

And Don KS did Not leave. He was Fired and it had nothing to do with marrying Kate!!:rolleye0011: LMAO!!

Dan

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 01:38 PM

For what it is worth; I benefit financially from no bow company. I shoot what I fill are the best bows. I have owned 4 Bowtechs in the last year and 4 Elites in the last year. I currently own an Elite GTO. No one pays me to speak. Thank you.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 01:43 PM

Don, If you knew anything about me you would know I have shot BowTech since 03. I was Asked to be on Corporate Staff in late 06, early 07. Since I was already an avid BowTech supporter I said sure. I am always willing to support a company I already believed in.

One thing you will Never see from me is switching from one company to another depending on who offers the Best deal. In my book a guy that does that loses all credibility with me. I know you guys would Love to make it Look like I am paid off but Sorry it just is Not so. With the money I put in my New BowTechs I could have bought 6 New Hoyts.

I guess I could sell them too!:p

Dan

MeanV2 01-10-2010 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by GMMAT (Post 3551914)
I'm sorry you took offense to what I posted (in this thread).

O you think that's it? Gee your memory fails you! LMAO!!:D

Dan

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 01:47 PM

Fired, left, quit, took a wrong turn and just kept driving; don't care. It was good for Elite archery and Strother archery though. I have got to shoot some the finest bows in the world thanks to this world of events.:happy0001:

nubo 01-10-2010 01:47 PM

Wow!

I haven't been here a whole lot in the past couple years ,but sure appears to me that MeanV is under attack ,I'm pretty sure he's allowed his own opinion , so why is he under attack?

nubo

MeanV2 01-10-2010 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by hardcorehunter (Post 3551916)
For what it is worth; I benefit financially from no bow company. I shoot what I fill are the best bows. I have owned 4 Bowtechs in the last year and 4 Elites in the last year. I currently own an Elite GTO. No one pays me to speak. Thank you.

Same Here Don!! That's why I look hard at all the Flagship bows every year I will shoot and support what I feel is best. Even though our choices are different. I don't see any other difference!:D

Dan

MeanV2 01-10-2010 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by nubo (Post 3551925)
Wow!

I haven't been here a whole lot in the past couple years ,but sure appears to me that MeanV is under attack ,I'm pretty sure he's allowed his own opinion , so why is he under attack?

nubo

Thanks!! I feel like I am allowed my opinion, and won't hide it. If that's wrong then, Sorry!

nubo, I am used to it's pretty much always the same Ol' Same Ol' maybe another guy yet to show up ;)

Dan

GMMAT 01-10-2010 01:56 PM


Maybe there are those that would buy a Bow based on pattern alone, but I Never would. Dipping a Bow to suit your personal needs is far too easy.

I would never drop that kind of $$ on a Bow I never had in my Hands either. There are too many quality bows that I personally don't like the feel of and/or just do Not fit me correct.

Bows are a very personal choice! What some like I may Not care for, and what I like may Not be for someone else. I'd like to shoot one but I have yet to see a dealer that has one in stock and won't hold my breath either. I would Not Drive over 200 miles to shoot one either. I shot a few of the Elites!
Well...since Don started a thread on his new bow........and didn't seek approval from the BT judge in doing so.....

I'd ask...who came looking for who?

solocamcan 01-10-2010 02:02 PM

I dont get these threads, they slight on brand bashing....once again. A bow is a piece of equipment, same as boots, cold weather gear, arrows, releases, sights, all used to aid in your hunt. Yet, you dont see threads like these stating why your Rocky boots suck and you should wear Lacrosse.

dprsdhunter 01-10-2010 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by solocamcan (Post 3551937)
I dont get these threads, they slight on brand bashing....once again. A bow is a piece of equipment, same as boots, cold weather gear, arrows, releases, sights, all used to aid in your hunt. Yet, you dont see threads like these stating why your Rocky boots suck and you should wear Lacrosse.


I wear a Rocky on one foot and lacrosse on the other

solocamcan 01-10-2010 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by dprsdhunter (Post 3551939)
I wear a Rocky on one foot and lacrosse on the other

HAhahaha....good idea.

luke/r 01-10-2010 02:07 PM

I have a dealer 20 minutes from me. When my elbow quits hurting on plan on making the trip to shoot one.

dprsdhunter 01-10-2010 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by solocamcan (Post 3551940)
HAhahaha....good idea.


yeah-keeps everone happy :party:

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by nubo (Post 3551925)
Wow!

I haven't been here a whole lot in the past couple years ,but sure appears to me that MeanV is under attack ,I'm pretty sure he's allowed his own opinion , so why is he under attack?

nubo

Lol..not under attack. It is just the same ole same ole stuff that wears thin on many of us. A guy comes on and asks what kind of bow should I get. It is always the same corporate staff advisers that suggest they buy a bow from the company they get kickbacks from. Then, if someone posts an issue with that bow maker that they have seen or know 1st hand knowledge about, the same corporate guys come running in and call the guy or guys a basher for bringing it to light, they claim that the issue is non existent and not an issue and that those that feel that it is an issue, should shut up and go sit in the corner. MOTOWNHONKEY and some other member here last week stated that this is why they will NEVER buy a Bowtech.Then these same corporate staff advisers come on and post a review of a new bow from the company they represent, and without opening the thread we all know how magic this new bow is. Of course it is, it is from a company that the corporate adviser or bow dealer financially benefits from. Most of us, on the other hand, only rave and review about a product we ACTUALLY like, and don't benefit financially. These are the reviews that have merit. Believe me, if there was no Bowtech dealer within 200 miles of these corporate advisers, they would still gladly drive to get one, as they want their corporate titles, kickbacks, and freebies. They also wish they didn't have to send their bows to dip shops to get Predator camo, as no one enjoys this hassle and warranty void.

hardcorehunter 01-10-2010 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by GMMAT (Post 3551932)
Well...since Don started a thread on his new bow........and didn't seek approval from the BT judge in doing so.....

I'd ask...who came looking for who?

EXACTLY!!:s13:

dprsdhunter 01-10-2010 02:19 PM

I really dont care what any one shoots.
I shoot a bowtech and love it. I get no kick backs from anyone but if asked my opinion I would tell someone to try bowtech. Just because for know that is the bow I am happy with.

MeanV2 01-10-2010 02:23 PM

Sorry Guys! I'm entitled to my opinion, same as anyone. Don, You remember those PM's you sent me about **** maybe I should refresh your memory.

I think everyone is Smart enough to read the Facts I laid out, and make their own decisions. Like I said a lot of Good Bows out there. Better every year!!

I shoot what I like, and always will!:biggrin:

I am thinking of Hunting with a Sling Shot next year, buying a camera, and taking pics of everything I kill, toad frogs, squirrels, bunnies, etc. Boy Everything would be a Trophy then!:happy0157:

Dan


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