mineral blocks and salt
#11
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: Cumming georgia
we have been using trace mineral blocks for years. put half a mineral block and half aplain white salt block in an old stump hole in the spring and deer will tear it up. don' t use the deer cocaine though. we heard from a friend who owns a sporting goods store who sold it that it may be harmfull
#12
they seem to love the deer cocaine or similar stuff but the chemical in it is nothing more than MSG a preservative that makes chinese food and potato chips taste so good along with a million other junk food products.the problem is that it goes by quite a few trade names to confuse the customers. DICALCIUM PHOSPHATE is one of them i believe. its the taste that gets them addicted but i dont think it has any nutritional value. any chemists or nutritionists out there?
#13
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Illinois
Monosodium Glutamate (MSG), a tasteless taste enhancer, is a sodium derivative obtained from natural occuring amino acids. MSG has no nutritional value and it is not a preservative. MSG has no taste but fools your brain to believe something tastes good... when it might not.
MSG is not the dicalcium phosphate used in livestock diet.
MSG is not the dicalcium phosphate used in livestock diet.
#16
Mad_Hunter, This is why Liquidorange asked for this question to be answered by people who are not Deer Cocaine salesmen, And since you produce and market SCC. Mineral Gravy, of cousre you would claim that it increases Antler Growth. Here are a few links that claim otherwise 2 of them being from C.J. Winand. Click on the link below and scroll down to the last question on the page. Pike,
www.bowsite.com/bowsite/kb/ASK.cfm?section_id=3&StartRow=36
www.bowsite.com/bowsite/kb/ASK.cfm?section_id=3&StartRow=36
#17
Mad_Hunter here is another quoute by C.J. On the subject. Pike,
http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/kb/ASK.cfm?section_id=3&StartRow=1
http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/kb/ASK.cfm?section_id=3&StartRow=1
#18
Mad_Hunter, here is another link, It is for a QDMA. article and citres 3 different studies. Pike,,http://www.qdma.com/articles/detail.asp?ID=97
#19
i saw an hour long program that explained that msg and di calcium phosphate and a couple other names were in deed the same thing. they are added to food all the time but use it to make food taste sweeter and saltier. some people react to it not so well that was what the show was trying to uncover. do deer really need that? i think not!
#20
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: Illinois
liquid
Not that it is that important, but you must have misunderstood what was being said. Phosphorus (phosphoric acid) and calcium are no where close to being the same, or nearly the same, as a glutamate (glutamic acid) and monosodium. The difference is as a rock is to wood.
Both elements can be found together in a particular substance (product), however, the ingredient purpose and the value of each element is totally and separately different.
Dicalcium Phosphate and Tricalcium phosphate is commonly used as a filler and binder. The substance is also used to keep certain granular and flour-like products from " clumping.
Many pills and capsules contain Dicalcium and Tricalcium Phosphate. I do not believe people taking high blood pressure medication would appreciate having a sodium element in their medication.
Not that it is that important, but you must have misunderstood what was being said. Phosphorus (phosphoric acid) and calcium are no where close to being the same, or nearly the same, as a glutamate (glutamic acid) and monosodium. The difference is as a rock is to wood.
Both elements can be found together in a particular substance (product), however, the ingredient purpose and the value of each element is totally and separately different.
Dicalcium Phosphate and Tricalcium phosphate is commonly used as a filler and binder. The substance is also used to keep certain granular and flour-like products from " clumping.
Many pills and capsules contain Dicalcium and Tricalcium Phosphate. I do not believe people taking high blood pressure medication would appreciate having a sodium element in their medication.


