What does brace height do for you??
#11
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I shoot a verrrrry long brace height because of my draw length (34 in) I like it, it seems to help the arrow tunning process, short BH tend to put too much " action" on the arrow, it flys faster, sometimes, but I like the longer BH.
Question: Why is it brace height, and not brace horizontal?
Question: Why is it brace height, and not brace horizontal?
#12
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Arthur:
Here I go, not communicating properly again![:@][
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Let me analyze what I said: " Most want and tell others to use the largest BH because they have form that will not allow them to shoot otherwise."
Nope, I didn' t say that.
Nope, I didn' t say that either; but, I agree with you. 
Nope, I didn' t say that, nor was there an intent to infer it. Everyone has a right to shoot what they want.
Now, let' s get down to what I really meant, and that is;
" Most want and tell others to use the largest BH because they have form that will not allow them to shoot otherwise." Maybe I should have limited my comment to " Many want............" . I guess the word " most" should have been tempered a little. Sorry.
BTW, I do not advocate low brace height, reflex bows as you stated. I just get tired of everyone advocating HIGHER brace height as a ' cure-all' for bad form. I see too many companies inducing high REFLEX in conjunction with high BH in order to get some speed back. Just today I measured a very popular bow that is touted to be a very forgiving bow because of its moderate brace height. Can you believe that thing has almost a 4" reflex?[:@]
Shoot whatever you want. Don' t I always advocate this theme?
Here I go, not communicating properly again![:@][
]Let me analyze what I said: " Most want and tell others to use the largest BH because they have form that will not allow them to shoot otherwise."
Shooting deflex riser and high brace does not mean you have poor form.

Shooting high brace and deflex riser does not mean you can' t shoot a low brace, reflex riser bow.

Shooting deflex riser and high brace means you choose to shoot such a bow, for a LOT of reasons.

Now, let' s get down to what I really meant, and that is;
" Most want and tell others to use the largest BH because they have form that will not allow them to shoot otherwise." Maybe I should have limited my comment to " Many want............" . I guess the word " most" should have been tempered a little. Sorry.
BTW, I do not advocate low brace height, reflex bows as you stated. I just get tired of everyone advocating HIGHER brace height as a ' cure-all' for bad form. I see too many companies inducing high REFLEX in conjunction with high BH in order to get some speed back. Just today I measured a very popular bow that is touted to be a very forgiving bow because of its moderate brace height. Can you believe that thing has almost a 4" reflex?[:@]
Shoot whatever you want. Don' t I always advocate this theme?
#13
Len we seem to be in total agreemant here.That is how they get the speeds from the parallel limbs designed bows.Then advertise 7" -8" of brace height.How can a bow be forgiving if it has 3" -4" of reflex.
I am not trying to knock these bows but to say they are as forgiving as a bow that has a reflex of 1" and still has a brace of 7" .IMO this just isn' t possible.Maybe their is some kind of middle ground reached with having a high brace in conjunction with a high reflex but it still imo can' t be AS forgiving.
I am not trying to knock these bows but to say they are as forgiving as a bow that has a reflex of 1" and still has a brace of 7" .IMO this just isn' t possible.Maybe their is some kind of middle ground reached with having a high brace in conjunction with a high reflex but it still imo can' t be AS forgiving.
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From: Way Out West
Arthur P,Your post cracked me up. Please take no offense, but that was some serious extrapolation! Sometimes I think the tea leaves are being read.
The biggest pain about low brace bows is shooting in cold weather with bulky clothing, but it' s simple to fix with guards.
#15
Thanks to all that responded to this post. Now, I' m looking at the Diamond Stinger...I beleive the brace height is around 8" but I don' t know what the reflex is, or how to get the number...I believe my draw length is 30" (maybe 31)....Is this gonna be a good choice for me? Forgiving? I' ll practice my form, but I have heard about " short bows" being " unstable" or unforgiving.. Does this bow sound unforgiving? Thanks again for all the help.
#16
I shoot a verrrrry long brace height because of my draw length (34 in)
You mean that you shoot a verrry long power stroke because of your draw length, right? Draw length does not change brace height but it does change the power stroke length.
...I beleive the brace height is around 8" but I don' t know what the reflex is, or how to get the number
It is really rather simple actually. Take a string and run it from where the limb first meets the limb pocket. That " hinge spot" is where you want to start running the string and end it at the exact same spot on the other side of the bow. Then measure the distance from the string to the throat of the bow' s grip. If the stretched string is farther away from the bowstring than the grip then you have a reflexed riser and that distance between the throat of the grip and the stretched string is the amount of reflex.
I am not that familiar with the Stinger. What is the axle to axle length on it?
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PABowhntr, From what I have noticed, if you need a long draw length, one of the ways of acquiring it is by finding a bow with a longer BH. (bows with a 31,32,33in or higher draw length are going to have a long BH)
Say for instance if you have two exact bows,
but one has a BH of 6 1/2in and the other is 7 1/2in, the longer brace height bow will give you a longer draw length.
At least this is what I have been taught, but I could be wrong[
], maybe someone out there could elaborate on this alittle more better than I, anybody know?
(didn' t mean to turn the subject[&:])
Say for instance if you have two exact bows,
but one has a BH of 6 1/2in and the other is 7 1/2in, the longer brace height bow will give you a longer draw length.At least this is what I have been taught, but I could be wrong[
], maybe someone out there could elaborate on this alittle more better than I, anybody know?
(didn' t mean to turn the subject[&:])
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Voz:
If you really have anything like 30" DL or longer, I strongly recommend staying away from anything that short. It will definitely affect your longer distance shooting accuracy. If you came into my shop, I' d steer you towards something around 36" ATA. That would be based on the premise that Texas shots that can be 40 yards or more.
don loch:
You' ve been told incorrect information. The correlation between BH and draw length is varied and can be complicated by the size of the eccentric/cam. This also holds true for reflex/deflex. It can get quite complicated.
If you really have anything like 30" DL or longer, I strongly recommend staying away from anything that short. It will definitely affect your longer distance shooting accuracy. If you came into my shop, I' d steer you towards something around 36" ATA. That would be based on the premise that Texas shots that can be 40 yards or more.
don loch:
You' ve been told incorrect information. The correlation between BH and draw length is varied and can be complicated by the size of the eccentric/cam. This also holds true for reflex/deflex. It can get quite complicated.
#20
Don,
As Len stated, this is not a correct statement. On any given bow, brace height is not affected by draw length...with one exception. Lets take a Mathews MQ1 for example....each inch of draw length is determined by a different sized straightline maxcam. As you get longer in draw length the straightline maxcams get bigger. As the cams get bigger the brace height gets slightly larger....but only slightly and only in the case of bows that use different sized cams to achieve the different draw lengths.
Bows that use rotating modules...Browning Cyber, Hoyt Cam.5, etc....and/or replaceable modules....Jennings PWC2, Parker Single cam, Bowtech dual/singles....do not have their brace heights change as you either increase or decrease the draw length within the given draw length range of the cam. In the case of the Cam.5 as you go to shorter draw length range..say from a 28.5-31 to a 27.5 to 30 then the brace height might, again, change slightly, as the cam size gets smaller but not by a significant amount. A 28.5 inch draw length Razortec will have the same 7.25 inch brace height as a 31 inch draw length Razortec provided both draw length range settings are on the same rotating module.
Voz,
Again, I tend to agree with Len. If you have a longer than average draw length then I suggest you stick with bows that are a bit longer in axle to axle length than 28.5 inches. The string angle, alone, with such a setup would be extreme to say the least.
PABowhntr, From what I have noticed, if you need a long draw length, one of the ways of acquiring it is by finding a bow with a longer BH. (bows with a 31,32,33in or higher draw length are going to have a long BH)
Say for instance if you have two exact bows, but one has a BH of 6 1/2in and the other is 7 1/2in, the longer brace height bow will give you a longer draw length.
Say for instance if you have two exact bows, but one has a BH of 6 1/2in and the other is 7 1/2in, the longer brace height bow will give you a longer draw length.
Bows that use rotating modules...Browning Cyber, Hoyt Cam.5, etc....and/or replaceable modules....Jennings PWC2, Parker Single cam, Bowtech dual/singles....do not have their brace heights change as you either increase or decrease the draw length within the given draw length range of the cam. In the case of the Cam.5 as you go to shorter draw length range..say from a 28.5-31 to a 27.5 to 30 then the brace height might, again, change slightly, as the cam size gets smaller but not by a significant amount. A 28.5 inch draw length Razortec will have the same 7.25 inch brace height as a 31 inch draw length Razortec provided both draw length range settings are on the same rotating module.
Voz,
Again, I tend to agree with Len. If you have a longer than average draw length then I suggest you stick with bows that are a bit longer in axle to axle length than 28.5 inches. The string angle, alone, with such a setup would be extreme to say the least.


