While I agree the arrows make noise....I think we lend too much credence to this. The reason I say that is......we hear the arrow from a completely different view/audio point than the deer. I've set my cam on my target (when I was shooting Montecs) to see if I could hear anything, from the deer's perspective.

A loud bow is most times cure-able. Important. Granted. But as far as the arrow goes....I think the first sound a deer's gonna hear is his gurgling lungs and the blood spurting out the entrance/exit.

I tend to agree with this,the arrow makes a completely different noise from directly in front than it does from the side or from behind it.There is a noticable whistle,even in the video when the camera is placed at the side but we barely hear anything from the front.The same goes for the bow.

Unless you are using feathers that are really damaged,the noise from the deer's perspective is fairly negligable.

Now that's for another debate...

My Matthews FX (5-6 years old?) shoots 231 fps with 100 gr. points mounted on xx75-2216 and the only deer that ducked my arrow was a nice 8-pointer that I bleated at to stop him. Someone mentioned the "attitude" of the deer and this is certainly key. However "quiet" is our friend... Speed "can" be our friend, if you play right with it!

If u are gettin beat inside of 20 then u are not holding low enough.


Right... Thats kinda what i was getting at... THis supposedly loud bow is almost un-noticeable at 20 yds... Im sure your sentinel would never be heard if it was setup the same way as this video was
To your ears it is unnoticable not an on edge whitetail.

You will get beat inside 20 more than you will beyond it.I hold dead center lungs but like I stated earlier,I made a mistake and didn't hold lower on an alert deer.


I had a friend that "claimed" to hit the opposite side of a doe inside of 10 yards than the side he was aiming at.He claimed it spun right at release.Not sure if he was smoking anything or not but he had been hunting for years and killed MANY deer.

I've seen slo-mo video of a deer completely ducking under a shot that was fired from inside 20yds. This was no slow bow firing the arrow. The shot was where it needed to be. The target moved.

If you're having trouble with this, you need to do one thing:

Shoot at deer that aren't alert.

If you think a few fps (or even several) of arrow speed will trump this phenomenon, you're mistaken.

Most of the so called deer ducking the arrow happens at 15 to 20 yard shots. Deer react to a noise by dropping straight down and then bounding away.

Most of the time the deer that is able to actually duck an arrow was already alerted by something else, strange noise, strange odor, or movement.

The key to avoiding this is learning to be patient and take shots at only relaxed deer. Not many will do that though they think they can aim low or speed the arrow in there before the deer reacts. Sometimes it works (aiming low) but many times the results is a miss or worse yet a fatally wounded deer that is not found.

Deer out farther than 25 yards say 30, 40, or 50 don't react the same way to a noise as they will if it's closer in their comfort zone but you still need to shoot at only relaxed animals. Experience killing animals will teach us all a lot if we just pay attention.

Dan

Ed, LMAO!! I have some pretty gassy Mice around here!

Dan