shooting at 50 yards
06-20-2009, 06:12 AM
#11
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
Posts: 18,322
RE: shooting at 50 yards
ORIGINAL: m9a9g9i9c
I had a quiet afternoon to practice my 50 yards shot. I shot every arrow 5 times to eliminate the bad arrows. After done that I took my shot sequence notes and nailed them on a board next to me. The size of the spot you aim on went on to be one of the key factors of me shooting larger groups. Once I made the target larger I kept on shooting tighter groups. Another thing that made me shoot inconstent was the sunlight on my peepsight. I can see the bubble of my level in the rest but with the sun behind me or above me I don't so I changed my anchorpoint to see the level again.
I shot around 50 arrows and then the wind picked up and made it impossible to do the finetuning.
I noticed at 30 yards that my groups are more left than at 50 yards which means I need to walkback tune the rest again.
I felt too confident shooting 18 to 25 yards but now I really think I need to retune completely. I'm going to restring the bow and change the cables, after that a whole build up from zero.
I'm going to add the 30 and 50 yards into the tuning process to get a finer result.
The tips you gave me helped me out, so thanks...
Frank
I had a quiet afternoon to practice my 50 yards shot. I shot every arrow 5 times to eliminate the bad arrows. After done that I took my shot sequence notes and nailed them on a board next to me. The size of the spot you aim on went on to be one of the key factors of me shooting larger groups. Once I made the target larger I kept on shooting tighter groups. Another thing that made me shoot inconstent was the sunlight on my peepsight. I can see the bubble of my level in the rest but with the sun behind me or above me I don't so I changed my anchorpoint to see the level again.
I shot around 50 arrows and then the wind picked up and made it impossible to do the finetuning.
I noticed at 30 yards that my groups are more left than at 50 yards which means I need to walkback tune the rest again.
I felt too confident shooting 18 to 25 yards but now I really think I need to retune completely. I'm going to restring the bow and change the cables, after that a whole build up from zero.
I'm going to add the 30 and 50 yards into the tuning process to get a finer result.
The tips you gave me helped me out, so thanks...
Frank
What peep do you shoot? I found bad glare in the G5 (blue) peeps and did away with them, went back to a Tru Peep.
Are you shooting on flat ground with no slope? If you have slope are watching your level?
06-20-2009, 06:48 AM
#12
Typical Buck
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 996
RE: shooting at 50 yards
Rob,
I tried the G5 and the metapeeps and didn't like the blue as well.
I liked the shurz-a-peep but using three strands of string didn't cut it for me, so I machined a peep myself, the same as a shurz-a-peep but with two strands of string.
This gives me a thick black circle in which I center my sight. Since the hole in the peep is coneshaped I sometimes have some light that reflects on the inside wall of the peep.
I rely on my anchorpoint now when this happens.
I shoot on a flat target range but I never have used my level.
One thing that my have interfered is that I shot my longbow a lot before training this kind of distances.....
F.
I tried the G5 and the metapeeps and didn't like the blue as well.
I liked the shurz-a-peep but using three strands of string didn't cut it for me, so I machined a peep myself, the same as a shurz-a-peep but with two strands of string.
This gives me a thick black circle in which I center my sight. Since the hole in the peep is coneshaped I sometimes have some light that reflects on the inside wall of the peep.
I rely on my anchorpoint now when this happens.
I shoot on a flat target range but I never have used my level.
One thing that my have interfered is that I shot my longbow a lot before training this kind of distances.....
F.
06-21-2009, 05:54 AM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Mn.
Posts: 3,399
RE: shooting at 50 yards
ORIGINAL: Rhody Hunter
at 50 yards you really notice the inconsistencies in form or flight. do like they say and use one arrow and do it fresh . this is why most won't shot at an animal that far
at 50 yards you really notice the inconsistencies in form or flight. do like they say and use one arrow and do it fresh . this is why most won't shot at an animal that far
I shot only 20-30-40 yrds for yrs(26)and then last yr started doing 50 and 60 yards(for mule deer and goats) and man was it ugly,I hit vitals but with no consistancy then I focused on my form and wow now I can do 30-40-50-60 with out having 2nd thoughts..
I felt like it was my 1st time shooting a bow when I went 50-60 and I thought my form was good.......
06-21-2009, 06:00 AM
#14
Typical Buck
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 996
RE: shooting at 50 yards
I am thinking the same thing, I am second best shot when it comes to under 30yard shots, I pick coinsize dots and x them. But I want to have the confidence to make these long shots, not that I am ever going to make them in real life situations.
But my mind needs to know I can. I am going to up the trainingprogram and work on form after the bow's set up properly again.
thx for the info
F.
But my mind needs to know I can. I am going to up the trainingprogram and work on form after the bow's set up properly again.
thx for the info
F.
06-22-2009, 08:45 AM
#15
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: masontown pa USA
Posts: 851
RE: shooting at 50 yards
You'll only get good at the longer distances with tons of practice. So keep at it. Bow/arrow tuning is critical, and so is brain tuning. It is difficult to get really good at the longer distances with todays short ATA hunting bows, so your form/release and follow through have to spot on to get the accuracy you want. I would think abou a different peep, such as the Tru Peep or even a Superpeep so you can change hole diameters to get the light and clarity you shoot the best with.
06-30-2009, 01:12 PM
#16
Typical Buck
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Belgium
Posts: 996
RE: shooting at 50 yards
I personally think that every bowhunter should have practice rounds going to 50 yards.
I thought my bow was set and everything tuned but after going to 50 yards I discovered there was still a lot to fine tune on bow and on the arrows I use. And my form wasn't 100%. When I filmed myself on the 25 yard shots I saw myself dropping the bow down too fast which doesn't make any differenceat 25 yards. At 50 yards the arrows drop down almost 3" when I did that.
Another thing I noticed is that my confidence is very high even on these long shots now that I shoot tight groups of 3" and less.
I had to reset the rest and the backwall of my 82nd and now 2 out of 3 arrows hit bull's eye at 50 yards.
Another critical issue was my poundage, I went from 55 to 57,5 and those 2,5 pounds did make a big difference in drawing back my airborne. I shot around 500 arrows to get the feel backthat I owned the bow and not the other way around......
I might put up the little youtube clip with my practice.
I must say that once again all the intel and answers helped me out.
Now I need to get an animal in my sight and shoot it.
If all goes well maybe this fall..........
Frank
I thought my bow was set and everything tuned but after going to 50 yards I discovered there was still a lot to fine tune on bow and on the arrows I use. And my form wasn't 100%. When I filmed myself on the 25 yard shots I saw myself dropping the bow down too fast which doesn't make any differenceat 25 yards. At 50 yards the arrows drop down almost 3" when I did that.
Another thing I noticed is that my confidence is very high even on these long shots now that I shoot tight groups of 3" and less.
I had to reset the rest and the backwall of my 82nd and now 2 out of 3 arrows hit bull's eye at 50 yards.
Another critical issue was my poundage, I went from 55 to 57,5 and those 2,5 pounds did make a big difference in drawing back my airborne. I shot around 500 arrows to get the feel backthat I owned the bow and not the other way around......
I might put up the little youtube clip with my practice.
I must say that once again all the intel and answers helped me out.
Now I need to get an animal in my sight and shoot it.
If all goes well maybe this fall..........
Frank
07-01-2009, 12:09 AM
#17
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: State of Missery
Posts: 135
RE: shooting at 50 yards
I shoot as far back as 60 yards all the time. I like it because it really shows your errors. People allways tell me to never ever even shoot my bow past 30 yards ever. they don't even like any one practicing farther out than 30 because (and I am quoting dumbut here) "they could use it in a hunting situation, and that is why I don't even like people PRACTICING past 30 yards" (end quote) and this was on MY LAND!!
07-02-2009, 03:14 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Henderson, KY
Posts: 1,760
RE: shooting at 50 yards
ORIGINAL: Switchback_XT
I shoot as far back as 60 yards all the time. I like it because it really shows your errors. People allways tell me to never ever even shoot my bow past 30 yards ever. they don't even like any one practicing farther out than 30 because (and I am quoting dumbut here) "they could use it in a hunting situation, and that is why I don't even like people PRACTICING past 30 yards" (end quote) and this was on MY LAND!!
I shoot as far back as 60 yards all the time. I like it because it really shows your errors. People allways tell me to never ever even shoot my bow past 30 yards ever. they don't even like any one practicing farther out than 30 because (and I am quoting dumbut here) "they could use it in a hunting situation, and that is why I don't even like people PRACTICING past 30 yards" (end quote) and this was on MY LAND!!
Imo, if you plan to shoot ANYTHING foam or hunting seriously, you need to be profficient shooting about 20yds past your planned shooting. I LIKE to be able to shoot pretty well at 60, adn ok at 70, but that is really where i start to fall apart. but it makes 50 seem like 30 after about 15 shots.