warm hunting boots
#21
These are what I wear,occasionally the white ones for ice fishing, Best cold weather boot I've ever worn, $69
First issued to U.S. GIs during the Korean War, Mickey Mouse boots are designed for combat and shielded against water and extreme cold. A wool-lined interior and several layers of rubber serve as insulation. Their most distinguishable features are their giant size and pure white color. Reminded of the iconic cartoon character, soldiers joked they were in Mickey Mouse's shoes. The rubber was tinted white to camouflage with snow.
That incarnation of a cold weather boot was derived from the earlier "shoepac" of WWII. These were also white, but not as thick or durable - they were intended as an outer layer for shoes. Shoepacs did not stand up to the bitter cold snap of the winter of 1951 in Korea, when temperatures plunged far below their average, and army tents were scant protection. At a time when men were wearing their sleeping bags during the day to keep from freezing, Mickey Mouse boots were highly valued as a vast improvement over the protection of ordinary leather boots covered in shoepacs.
Since the rubber boot, which reached halfway up the calf, wasn't ventilated in any way, the wearer's sweat collected quickly. Men were constantly changing their socks, and drying wet socks between layers of their clothing. This was hardly an inconvenience considering how warm their feet remained. The boots prevented frostbite even at -20 or —30 degrees Fahrenheit (-29 to -34 Celsius); a thin layer of air trapped between two layers of rubber acts as a powerful insulator. A greater problem was that the weight and bulk of Mickey Mouse boots adversely affected a person's mobility, and weren't comfortable for long treks.
Many generations of the military have continued to wear these boots, also called "M&M's". Now they're available in black, with pressure valves, special moisture-wicking liners, and ratings down to an amazing —60 degrees Fahrenheit (-51 Celsius). Through Army Surplus sources the average outdoor adventurer can buy authentic GI Issue Mickey Mouse boots. Backpackers, fishers, or campers exposed to ice, snow, and water can enjoy their sport without fear of frozen toes.
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#23
ORIGINAL: nosualc
The problem with rubber boots is that they are impervious to water. While not letting water in is good, but not letting water vapor out is bad. All that water vapor from your sweaty feet will end up in your socks and the liners. That makes your feet cold.
With rubber boots, there's nothing you can do about it except avoid sweating, and have liners and socks that stay warm when damp. Things like wool, fleece (and other synthetics) still retain heat when wet. Things like cotton actually wick heat away from you when wet (which is why cotton shirts are great in the summer).
-nosualc
ps - As MeanV2 sez, Smart Wool is a great choice.
The problem with rubber boots is that they are impervious to water. While not letting water in is good, but not letting water vapor out is bad. All that water vapor from your sweaty feet will end up in your socks and the liners. That makes your feet cold.
With rubber boots, there's nothing you can do about it except avoid sweating, and have liners and socks that stay warm when damp. Things like wool, fleece (and other synthetics) still retain heat when wet. Things like cotton actually wick heat away from you when wet (which is why cotton shirts are great in the summer).
-nosualc
ps - As MeanV2 sez, Smart Wool is a great choice.
#25
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ORIGINAL: mossbergman11/OH
so what would YOU reccommend?
so what would YOU reccommend?
Above 20F, http://www.WinterFootwear.com/p2180c...ter_boots.html
Get an extra pair of liners, and alternate them each day.
Buy a couple pair of good wool socks. Smart Wool is a good brand (I believe it's actually a wool synthetic blend). That same website sells Smart Wool socks, as do many other places.
The boots need to be loose enough so that you can move your toes around. A tight boot or too many socks may seem like a good idea, but it just reduces blood flow to your toes. Buy your normal size (or maybe 1/2 size large), and wear a single sock. Some guys use sock liners; very thin socks designed to wick moisture away from your feet. I've never thought they did much good. YMMV.
Neither of these make for a good active boot. The first is too heavy, and the second gives you little support. If you're gonna be active (not sitting in a stand), you need a far less warm boot, and I'd look for more of a traditional hunting/hiking boot.
-nosualc
#26
i used to get cold feet all the time too. i have two pairs of boots... one pair for lightweather bowhunting, and any kind of hunting with lots of walking (pheasants rabbits ect.) a couple months ago, i bought a pair of irish setter snow claws for cold weather hunting. at 180 bucks they're pretty pricey, but definitely worth every penny. i had a liner sock on with a heavy treestand wool sock over that. the temperatures were dipping below 0 and the wind was out of the north at about 20. that puts the windchill somewhere in the -20 neighborhood, and my feet were completely warm.
#27
thanks for that
what would you guys say, be the minimum insulation grammage? for boots? eg. 800, 1200
what are some good "liner" socks? and good thick socks?
has anyone used these covers that you put over your boots when you get in your stand that are supposed to keep your feet nice and toasty?
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st..._SearchResults

what would you guys say, be the minimum insulation grammage? for boots? eg. 800, 1200
what are some good "liner" socks? and good thick socks?
has anyone used these covers that you put over your boots when you get in your stand that are supposed to keep your feet nice and toasty?
http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st..._SearchResults
#29
My feet used to always get cold no matter what I did.I have some really warm cold weather boots and my feet would still get cold,untill I learned what the problem was.My feet sweat and now I just wear regular socks to my stand and switch out to the thin under layer socks and wool socks when I get there.I don't even use insulated boots anymore.I am wearing dream season boots now and when I get into my stand,if it is really cold out,I will put my arctic shield boot covers on and I am toasty warm.If it is extreme conditions,I will throw a hand warmer in my boot covers.I have been in my stand in single diget temps for over 3 hours and my feet stayed warm.
#30
ORIGINAL: TFOX
My feet used to always get cold no matter what I did.I have some really warm cold weather boots and my feet would still get cold,untill I learned what the problem was.My feet sweat and now I just wear regular socks to my stand and switch out to the thin under layer socks and wool socks when I get there.I don't even use insulated boots anymore.I am wearing dream season boots now and when I get into my stand,if it is really cold out,I will put my arctic shield boot covers on and I am toasty warm.If it is extreme conditions,I will throw a hand warmer in my boot covers.I have been in my stand in single diget temps for over 3 hours and my feet stayed warm.
My feet used to always get cold no matter what I did.I have some really warm cold weather boots and my feet would still get cold,untill I learned what the problem was.My feet sweat and now I just wear regular socks to my stand and switch out to the thin under layer socks and wool socks when I get there.I don't even use insulated boots anymore.I am wearing dream season boots now and when I get into my stand,if it is really cold out,I will put my arctic shield boot covers on and I am toasty warm.If it is extreme conditions,I will throw a hand warmer in my boot covers.I have been in my stand in single diget temps for over 3 hours and my feet stayed warm.
what kind of socks make good liner socks?


