Fran was getting like 370 out of his Iron Mace or something like that. Some folks like it, some folks dont.

Not sure you lose that much accuracy. I had a Bowtech BKII when they came out. Brace was 5.5 if I remember correctly. I've been shooting a long time but I'm not a pro and doubt I have real good form. Self taught.

I had no troubles with accuracy. I didn't wound any critters. Killed several deer, turkeys and antelope with the bow. Hunt and live in SD so many of the deer were taken wearing heavy clothes and no troubles there with brace either.

You may want to shoot some of the newer speed bows before knocking them. All those stories you hear and repeat about shootability may just not be true anymore. Where are you conclusions that they are not accurate and people are wounding a lot more animals with them drawn from?

I did try one, an X Force 07 it was the worst bow I have had..

Fair enough. Because you didn't like it and it wasn't for you that makes them inaccurate and increase wounding rates? To each his own. Why does it matter so much to you what other people like? If a guy shoots a speed bow and is happy with it good for him. You shoot a slow bow and are happy with it good for you. I really don't understand the constant need to put others down because they don't conform to someone else's thinking.

I personally know a guy that shot an xforce6 for 3d last year, and he is a PSE staff shooter. He shoots freaking great with a 6" bh bow. To all that say low brace is impossible to shoot, you are wrong; ive seen it done numerous times. Im not sayin longer bh isnt better by anymeans tho, so dont mistake me there. Good form and repeatability, and you can shoot a low brace bow well.

Bashing speed..... I had an 08 BT 101st airborne, and loved the advantages that the speed gave me. Im no speed fanatic AT ALL, but when it is useable to your advantage, WHY bash it, or say its bad? MY 101st with a 400+ gr. axis arrow, @61#'s shot 290fps @29.5" of draw. That was my hunting setup. PLENTY of KE, plenty of speed, and 7" of bh... Cant beat it.An easy to draw tac driver that had the added benefit of speed. I didnt have any negative experience with it. The speed never "hurt" me or made me shoot worse, or kill deer worse.

Im not for, or against the speed thing, cuz i believe to each his own. If you canshoot great with a 1000fps 1"bh bow, keep on keepin on.

Derek

I've got an 08 X Force (two of them) and I use the high IBO rating to achieve decent speed at lower draw weights ("decent" speed is 280+ fps). I've owned 18 different bows and I like this one the best.

Not meaning to bash here honestly..im really not understanding why someone wants to shoot 360 fps?is there an advantage? that's what i am asking...like I said before...if you have perfect form and practice a lot, then shooting 360 fps may be fine, but the average guy ain't practicing a lot, and damn sure don't have perfect form... so for deer hunting, most situations only allow fora max 30 yd shot at best, where does the 360 fps help? is a bow shooting that fast as accurate as a 280 fps?? at what speed does it actually become counter-productive? mez please don't take this as a bashing fest really..Im just not sure that advertising all this speed to sell bows is a positive thing...Im mean in reality, most of these bows will never reach those speeds in the deer woods..

A fast bow is really a good thing,but truth be known, even a bow only shooting 250fps is just as deadly as a bow shooting 320fps if the shot is "placed" properly. I honestly believe that bow technology has just about peaked. It's now just about tweaking what's already been thought of/come up with. We're there guys.

There are advantages and disadvantages, just as with everything else. It works for some, not for others. That is why there are 100's of bows on the market. I don't think ANY bow made today is made so unshootable that it increases wounding rates though. Some guys will buy a bow just for its speed regardless if it fits them, much the same others will buy one based on the name regardless if it fits them. No difference in my opinion. I think the negatives are blown out of proportion, just as much as the positives are. If a guy shoots a bow like that fine, whywould he NOT take advantage of more speed/ke if it doesn't hurt him in the accuracy department?

I don't think a speed bow is for meeither, I love my current speed of 270ish (which is speed bow to some guys, considering a 500 grain arrow)....I am pushing 80 ft/lbs of KE. My next bow willlikely have a higher IBO than mycurrent with the way things have been going..so I am dropping poundage. If I upgraded this year, I candrop8-10 lbs of draw weight, shoot my same arrow...andonly loose 3-4 fps. This is a GREAT advantage to me. My next bow will 100% be a 60# bow.

Im sure back in the 80s, they were saying the same about bows reaching 250. Why on earth would someone need speeds like that? 180 does just fine.

With a grossly under weighted arrow.