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8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 10:08 AM

Bowhunting Camels?
 
Has anyone ever heard of this before?[:'(]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjW1-OaklM&NR=1

Rob/PA Bowyer 01-10-2009 10:17 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Never heard of it but it is one of the Worlds animals.

Is that our troops?

Where would it be?

Wonder how they grill up?



MeanV2 01-10-2009 10:19 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
If it's Bowhunting and I have the time and $$ for it I'd be up for it![8D]

Dan

janesburg 01-10-2009 10:29 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
I'd rather shoot a Giraffe.

lrhuntr 01-10-2009 10:29 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
I learned one thing from this video. Camels are stupid. :)

sportsman22 01-10-2009 10:31 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
I would hate to gut out and carry a camel in 100+ weather in some places... thats for sure hah.

MOTOWNHONKEY 01-10-2009 10:55 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
[:'(]


virginiashadow 01-10-2009 11:03 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Geez. Lets just start hunting cows with our bows. They are such the challenge!

TEmbry 01-10-2009 11:18 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Why do guys not frown upon hog hunting in America then?

Seems extremely similar to me. Both feral animals, both meat gets consumed...what am I missing?

Virginia, feral bulls ARE hunted in Australia. Just another animal out there now, been around since colony times.

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 11:36 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: TEmbry

Why do guys not frown upon hog hunting in America then?

Seems extremely similar to me. Both feral animals, both meat gets consumed...what am I missing?

Virginia, feral bulls ARE hunted in Australia. Just another animal out there now, been around since colony times.
I think hogs are MUCH harder to "hunt" than camels. IMO ;)

MOTOWNHONKEY 01-10-2009 11:58 AM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: 8pt~Bowhunter


ORIGINAL: TEmbry

Why do guys not frown upon hog hunting in America then?

Seems extremely similar to me. Both feral animals, both meat gets consumed...what am I missing?

Virginia, feral bulls ARE hunted in Australia. Just another animal out there now, been around since colony times.
I think hogs are MUCH harder to "hunt" than camels. IMO ;)
Agree, I havn't seen any razorbacks that will let you walk up to them and put an arrow thru them. If you did get away with it you better have a tree to climb up in.:D

sr77 01-10-2009 12:09 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
That's diiferent...........


Shane

dave37 01-10-2009 12:21 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
doesnt look like much fun to me- not much ofa rush walking up to an animal and shooting it as it stands there and just looks at you. On the other hand if i could only get a big buck to do that !

iamyourhuckleberry 01-10-2009 12:31 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
First of all, the camels that let the guys in this video walk right up to them were already shot. Secondly, killingthe surplus of camels is a necessary part of wildlife management in Australia, not unlike killing feral pigs here (study the subject matter a little). Goats, dingo, water buffalo, donkeys,wild brambies (horses) feral cattle (shrub bulls), and even roos are hunted in Australia. As are the hordes of rabbits and hares which decimate the natural vegetation. They are all free ranging...I would think you blokes would salute our Aussie bowhunters! Once again, we show our arrogance. Ten bucks says not one of you have tried it, and yet you're willing to condemn those that consider this great sport. I guess the entire world should hunt nothing but white-tailed deer?

It gets old!

virginiashadow 01-10-2009 12:40 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Tembry, then I take back part of my comments. Did not know feral camels were hunted....if so, then go for it. It looked staged to me.

iamyourhuckleberry 01-10-2009 12:47 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Here's a link to an awesome forum. Take the time to get to know these aussies. They're a fine lot and are very willing to educate us dumb Americans. I would be the last guy to call them anything but amazing bow hunters.

http://www.aussiebowhunter.com/

MeanV2 01-10-2009 12:47 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry

First of all, the camels that let the guys in this video walk right up to them were already shot. Secondly, killingthe surplus of camels is a necessary part of wildlife management in Australia, not unlike killing feral pigs here (study the subject matter a little). Goats, dingo, water buffalo, donkeys,wild brambies (horses) feral cattle (shrub bulls), and even roos are hunted in Australia. As are the hordes of rabbits and hares which decimate the natural vegetation. They are all free ranging...I would think you blokes would salute our Aussie bowhunters! Once again, we show our arrogance. Ten bucks says not one of you have tried it, and yet you're willing to condemn those that consider this great sport. I guess the entire world should hunt nothing but white-tailed deer?

It gets old!

I Agree!! There is way too much of the attitude that if I don't/can't do it, that it's not right and/or Fun.

Dan

bowmanaj 01-10-2009 01:05 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Interesting. If I had the opportunity to bowhunt camels I would try it. As for the guy walking up to the wobbly-legged wounded camel to try and "push" it over.. I dont know about that.

Cool video

MeanV2 01-10-2009 01:08 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
I have many Customers in Australia. These guys are Hunters!! No doubt!:D

Dan

travis25/06 01-10-2009 01:21 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
all that meat i think i would want to pack out on a camel. wait[&o][&o][&o][&o]now u cant

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 01:33 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

First of all, the camels that let the guys in this video walk right up to them were already shot. Secondly, killingthe surplus of camels is a necessary part of wildlife management in Australia, not unlike killing feral pigs here (study the subject matter a little). Goats, dingo, water buffalo, donkeys,wild brambies (horses) feral cattle (shrub bulls), and even roos are hunted in Australia. As are the hordes of rabbits and hares which decimate the natural vegetation. They are all free ranging...I would think you blokes would salute our Aussie bowhunters! Once again, we show our arrogance. Ten bucks says not one of you have tried it, and yet you're willing to condemn those that consider this great sport. I guess the entire world should hunt nothing but white-tailed deer?

It gets old!


I have no problem with bow hunting camels if it's legal. But that video was not about "hunting" camels. When you hunt a "wild" animal you have to overcome that animals natural senses and get close enough for a killing shot. In the video the "hunter" just walked up to the camel and shot him.

What wild game animal will let you walk up to them in plain sight and put an arrow in them? It looks like the same thing as shooting a domestic cow.:eek:

TEmbry 01-10-2009 01:58 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: 8pt~Bowhunter


First of all, the camels that let the guys in this video walk right up to them were already shot. Secondly, killingthe surplus of camels is a necessary part of wildlife management in Australia, not unlike killing feral pigs here (study the subject matter a little). Goats, dingo, water buffalo, donkeys,wild brambies (horses) feral cattle (shrub bulls), and even roos are hunted in Australia. As are the hordes of rabbits and hares which decimate the natural vegetation. They are all free ranging...I would think you blokes would salute our Aussie bowhunters! Once again, we show our arrogance. Ten bucks says not one of you have tried it, and yet you're willing to condemn those that consider this great sport. I guess the entire world should hunt nothing but white-tailed deer?

It gets old!


I have no problem with bow hunting camels if it's legal. But that video was not about "hunting" camels. When you hunt a "wild" animal you have to overcome that animals natural senses and get close enough for a killing shot. In the video the "hunter" just walked up to the camel and shot him.

What wild game animal will let you walk up to them in plain sight and put an arrow in them? It looks like the same thing as shooting a domestic cow.:eek:
Your question is answered in your own quote. PLENTY of wounded animals of all species act completely different than an unharmed animal.


I think hogs are MUCH harder to "hunt" than camels. IMO ;)
Speaking from experience here? Have you ever even seen a hog or a camel for that matter in the wild?;)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7350888899402398535

Now THAT appears to be the epitome of hard doesn't it?:eek: See, you can snatch a video of just about ANYTHING and make it appear easy. Most people watching whitetail hunts on TV don't understand how ANYONE can be unsuccessful in killing a deer. I'm not saying hog hunting easy (wouldn't have the slightest clue), I'm just saying it likely isn't any harder than camel hunting. Why be so quick to judge someone for legally, ethically, etc hunting for an animal halfway around the world that you haven't the slightest clue about. Next we will be saying cape buffalo are like hunting cows.



I have no problem with bow hunting camels if it's legal.

Has anyone ever heard of this before?[:'(]
Really?;)



I'm just saying....camels are likely just as wild in Australia as our little beloved piglets are here. Like Will said, if they aren't hunted...they would run rampant. In other words, what WOULD you approve of being hunted in Australia?

iamyourhuckleberry 01-10-2009 02:06 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

What wild game animal will let you walk up to them in plain sight and put an arrow in them?
In the absence of any natural predator, I would say any wild animal would let you walk up to them. Last time I checked, lions, tigers and bears were absent in Oz. The land is sparsely populated. Chances are, most camels have never seen a human. What would they have to fear? What the video doesn't show is the number of animals which eluded the hunters, right? I believe it did show a number fleeing...

I surmise you haven't hunted enough if you haven't walked up to a "wild" animal in plain sight and put an arrow into it. It happens more frequently than you think.

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 02:14 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry


What wild game animal will let you walk up to them in plain sight and put an arrow in them?
In the absence of any natural predator, I would say any wild animal would let you walk up to them. Last time I checked, lions, tigers and bears were absent in Oz. The land is sparsely populated. Chances are, most camels have never seen a human. What would they have to fear? What the video doesn't show is the number of animals which eluded the hunters, right? I believe it did show a number fleeing...

I surmise you haven't hunted enough if you haven't walked up to a "wild" animal in plain sight and put an arrow into it. It happens more frequently than you think.
Where I hunt, I can't walk up to a wild animal and shoot it with a bow. I've saw some videos where people have done this, like high fence ranches, and some animals that have no fear of humans. It doesn't seem like much of a hunt to me. IMO

But if you like that sort of thing, that's fine.


8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 02:22 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: TEmbry

First of all, the camels that let the guys in this video walk right up to them were already shot. Secondly, killingthe surplus of camels is a necessary part of wildlife management in Australia, not unlike killing feral pigs here (study the subject matter a little). Goats, dingo, water buffalo, donkeys,wild brambies (horses) feral cattle (shrub bulls), and even roos are hunted in Australia. As are the hordes of rabbits and hares which decimate the natural vegetation. They are all free ranging...I would think you blokes would salute our Aussie bowhunters! Once again, we show our arrogance. Ten bucks says not one of you have tried it, and yet you're willing to condemn those that consider this great sport. I guess the entire world should hunt nothing but white-tailed deer?

It gets old!
Where did you read or hear all the animals in that video were already shot?




I think hogs are MUCH harder to "hunt" than camels. IMO ;)
Speaking from experience here? Have you ever even seen a hog or a camel for that matter in the wild?;)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7350888899402398535

Now THAT appears to be the epitome of hard doesn't it?:eek: See, you can snatch a video of just about ANYTHING and make it appear easy. Most people watching whitetail hunts on TV don't understand how ANYONE can be unsuccessful in killing a deer. I'm not saying hog hunting easy (wouldn't have the slightest clue), I'm just saying it likely isn't any harder than camel hunting. Why be so quick to judge someone for legally, ethically, etc hunting for an animal halfway around the world that you haven't the slightest clue about. Next we will be saying cape buffalo are like hunting cows.
Anyone can sit 20' in a tree and have animals come to them with food. ;) I'm sure if that hunter got down from his treestand and tried to shoot one from the ground, the hogs would run away.





I'm just saying....camels are likely just as wild in Australia as our little beloved piglets are here. Like Will said, if they aren't hunted...they would run rampant. In other words, what WOULD you approve of being hunted in Australia?
like I said, I have no problem with people killing them if it's legal. Just don't try calling that hunting...;)

TEmbry 01-10-2009 02:23 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
The entire world of critters aren't identical to the whitetails of Tennessee. I can't wait to hunt as many places as possible and experience new places and new animals.

Have you honestly NEVER walked up within bowrange of animals? I have on numerous numerous times on whitetails in KY, mostly during the summer when out scouting or fishing. It happens with any animal. I have footage of my buddy walking up within 5 feet of a six point buck in the middle of a hay field in late july. Perfectly healthy animal, perfectly "wild"...just wasn't spooked on that day. Had we of shot him and put it on youtube, I wonder how many people would comment how easy or wrong whitetail hunting is.


What is funny to me, is that alot of the eastern US treestand hunters view other types of hunting as unethical or easy, while alot of the worldwide hunters can view hunting from treestands as unethical or easy. I like both.:)

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 02:31 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: TEmbry

The entire world of critters aren't identical to the whitetails of Tennessee. I can't wait to hunt as many places as possible and experience new places and new animals.

Have you honestly NEVER walked up within bowrange of animals? I have on numerous numerous times on whitetails in KY, mostly during the summer when out scouting or fishing. It happens with any animal. I have footage of my buddy walking up within 5 feet of a six point buck in the middle of a hay field in late july. Perfectly healthy animal, perfectly "wild"...just wasn't spooked on that day. Had we of shot him and put it on youtube, I wonder how many people would comment how easy or wrong whitetail hunting is.


What is funny to me, is that alot of the eastern US treestand hunters view other types of hunting as unethical or easy, while alot of the worldwide hunters can view hunting from treestands as unethical or easy. I like both.:)
When hunting season comes around, good luck walking next to a whitetail during bow season. Also if your friend shot that buck during "late july" wouldn't that be poaching? [:-]

Also, why bother with a tree stand when you can walk up to a whitetail and just shoot him. ;) It would sure save a lot of time and money.;)

Kanga 01-10-2009 02:45 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

I have no problem with people killing them if it's legal. Just don't try calling that hunting...
If you have not tried it don't knock it.

The video is miss leading, if you think you can just walk up on them I have news for ya and it's all bad. A wild Camel can be and is a very dangerous animal a lot of hunters have been seriously hurt and killedby them.

Go to the link Will provided and asked questions you just might learn something.


In other words, what WOULD you approve of being hunted in Australia?
When the economy was good we where allowed to take 2 arogant American tourist per year:D( don't get ya knickers in a knot it's a joke)

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 02:50 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

The video is miss leading, if you think you can just walk up on them I have news for ya and it's all bad. A wild Camel can be and is a very dangerous animal a lot of hunters have been seriously hurt and killedby them.
Wild camels that have a fear for humans may be VERY difficult to hunt. I just don't think the camels on that video were 100% wild. :D

How would you classify the camels in the video? Wild or not wild? ;)

Planter 01-10-2009 03:03 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
The assuies are avid sportsman but that did look like a 3D shoot. I don't know but I would bet not ten pounds of those overgrown goats was eaten. I also believe the population of camels is over the top so you
gotta kill some.
Would I try it?Sure if it didn't cost me anything but I would rather hunt a big Aussie Buff.
Are the wild camels and donkeys legal game in thestates. I know!!! How about a bow hunt for wild horses. I understand thay taste like chicken

Rory/MO 01-10-2009 03:12 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Wow. How can you condemn someone forhunting something that you've never hunted. You have no idea how the hunt actually goes. The whole "it's not hunting" argument can be said for just about anything. Lame argument.

iamyourhuckleberry 01-10-2009 03:17 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

When hunting season comes around
So, when is the camel season in Australia? Is there such a thing?What do you think the human populationstatsare in the Australian outback? How many people does a camel see in a day, month, lifetime? You are making assumptions which are based around your little dot on the planet. Are you sure you want to do this?

As far as getting close, here's a shot of one of our own. Those goats must have been non-wild, right?

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/robswanson/Critters/cover.jpg

You might PM Rob and ask him how many humans those goats see in a day...

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 03:26 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: iamyourhuckleberry

So, when is the camel season in Australia? Is there such a thing?What do you think the human populationstatsare in the Australian outback? How many people does a camel see in a day, month, lifetime? You are making assumptions which are based around your little dot on the planet. Are you sure you want to do this?
I don't know you tell me. :D Have you ever hunted camels before?


As far as getting close, here's a shot of one of our own. Those goats must have been non-wild, right?

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh22/robswanson/Critters/cover.jpg
They may have been wild, I had deer walk right up next to me while I was sitting next to a tree deer hunting. If I moved they would have ran away. A.K.A. I couldn't have walked up to them and shot them. ;)

MeanV2 01-10-2009 03:28 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
I've walked up close enough to shoot Whitetails on numerous occasions during Bow season in IL.

Maybe they are not Wild here!:eek:

Dan

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 03:28 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: Rory/MO

Wow. How can you condemn someone forhunting something that you've never hunted. You have no idea how the hunt actually goes. The whole "it's not hunting" argument can be said for just about anything. Lame argument.
I didn't "condemn" it. I just didn't think the camels looked all that wild... ;)

8pt~Bowhunter 01-10-2009 03:30 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

I've walked up close enough to shoot Whitetails on numerous occasions during Bow season in IL.

Maybe they are not Wild here!:eek:

Dan
All I can say is congrats to all you bow hunters out there that can walk within bow range of whitetails! Why do you guys even use treestands? :eek:

Kanga 01-10-2009 03:35 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

I just don't think the camels on that video were 100% wild. :D
For one thing what the video did not show was the 4 to 5 hour stalk to get within bow range.

In that part of Aus there are no fences or homesteadsfor thousands of miles so yeah they where 100% wild.


when is the camel season in Australia?
Year round they are a feral animal and not native.


What do you think the human populationstatsare in the Australian outback?
At the last sensus there where 20 million people in Aus with the marjority on the Eastern seaboard ( Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane). Now take into consideration that Aus is only 98% the size of the USA but only has 1/14th the population.

You know tomost Aussie's sitting in a tree stand 20 feet up waiting for a whitetail to come along is not hunting either but we don't knock the guys who choose to do so. Atleast in Aus.they get offthier butts and go looking for whatthey are hunting then put on a stalk to get within bow range and if you think thats easy it ain't;)


Rhody Hunter 01-10-2009 03:41 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Neverthought about hunting camels? If it is legal sure go for it . does any body know how they taste ? I'm thinking they are tough and gamey

iamyourhuckleberry 01-10-2009 03:53 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 
Dan,

I have managed to grab both mule and whitetail deer during the hunting season with my bare hands. I didn't exactly walk right up to them, but I did sneak in on them. Did the same thing to many elk...my closest shot came from three feet away. Each hunting situation is unique.

Mike,

I think if one were to draw a straight line between the goats eyes and Rob's figure( a cone shape would show everything that the goats were seeing), then Rob is clearly within plain sight of the goats. I believe, if I remember right, he was in that postion for an extended time period. The point is: anything is possible.

No, I have never hunted camels before. I look forward to doing it someday. When I'm finished, I'll let you know the extent of a camel's eyesight. I hear they can spit and hit a target at 4 meters! Finally, to my knowledge there is no season on camels in OZ. I'd be willing to bet thereare very fewseasons onmost of theanimals in OZ (I know for a fact there are no seasons and regs to speak of in New Zealand). There aren't enough people for it to matter at this point, and those that do hunt have their fill.

MeanV2 01-10-2009 03:55 PM

RE: Bowhunting Camels?
 

ORIGINAL: 8pt~Bowhunter
All I can say is congrats to all you bow hunters out there that can walk within bow range of whitetails! Why do you guys even use treestands? :eek:
I can't speak for everyone but I use Treestands because I'd get tired walking around all day![8D]


Jking;)

Dan


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