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Welcome Aussies.

I may be picking your brains some, I may study abroad "down under" in the future;)

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This thread. LOL!!

Due to the fact that I have NEVER hunted or even been to the U.S. I will make the following assumptions based on my viewing of a PSE video;

Whitetails are easy to shoot due to the fact that they mustpass through thin strips of land between houses to reach their feeding/bedding areas. Therefore, deciding where to place your tree stand is easy. I base this off the fact that I can see a house and a backyard in the video and hear trains and traffic.

Whitetails are stupid. I base this off the fact that in the same video a guy shoots one and it just stands there and gets shot agian. WHAT A STUPID CREATURE!

Whitetails are not only stupid, but they have incredibly dull senses. I base this on the fact that multiple times the bucks look at the hunter and then just keep walking under his stand.

That using sentkiller, tree stands, doe urine, etc is classified as a FAIR CHASE, even though a chase would involve WALKING or pursuing an animal, rather than sitting in a tree imitating bark.

I make this assumptions base on watching a video. Hunting Whitetails doesn't seem that great to me, you can keep them.

End of observation

Stay tuned formy turkey observation based on a gainy 5 year oldyoutube video.

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I hunt from a tree stand because youcan almost never just walk up to a whitetail and kill it. And in the area I hunt, you will NEVER walk up on a whitetail and kill it. Period.There's really no comparison here. What was depicted in that video was NOT "hunting", sorry.;)

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Thanks for the warm welcome Huck and others.

When are you blokes going to join the rest of the world and talk in Degrees C It can be 40C+ (104F) in the shade when hunting central Australia and the same in the northern parts during Oct-Dec. Out in direct sun I have seen thermometers topping 54C (129F) but they where cool days so wear sunblock if hunting whenit really gets hot.

The company I work for put me up in Alice for a few weeks and the restaurant where I was staying specialised in authentic Australian cuisine which meant Isampled everything on the menu during my stay including Emu, Croc, Buff and Camel several times. I really started to miss simple steak and veg . Anyway the camel was fine, it went down well was not tough to eat, like most game species it’s the preparation that turns gamey meat into something you look forward to.

Waterholes is why the company sent me there, the local indigenous people where having their sacred sites trampled by the camel causing serious damage and threatening the long term viability of the water holes in question, our job was to came up with a way to keep the camels out but let the native species in and to have what we designed blend into the landscape so it did not look like Fort Knox with little dog doors. I will see if I can dig up some photos but it was a while ago.

As for larva that comes from a camels nose I never really though to take a photo of it for the photo album, an oversight on my part. I will be out that way again mid this year with my wife and daughter so I will put it on the must do list.:D

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Do you seriously believe that? Do you???

Open your eyes man, read some of the posts on here from Aussies who DO know what they are talking about and think a little outside of the narrow minded armchair expert view that you have.

When was the last time you hunted camel to become such an expert to say whether or not it is hunting???

How can the rest of you US based hunters let posts like this on here go unchecked? Do you realise how poorly it reflects on the general impression outsiders get of your ability to view the rest of the world and accept others hunting and hunting cultural practises for what they are instead of asserting your own values, beliefs and morals even LAWS (in the case of the fellow stating that "where he comes from it's illegal to shoot something that is lying down"... NEWS FLASH BUDDY the Northern Territory in Australia is NOT WHERE YOU COME FROM!!)

Seriously.

Now, where's that video of Miss South Carolina again... I'm starting to think perhaps she is intelligent after all

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Read my post again. It says based on what was depicted in that video was not hunting in my eyes. As far as that Miss South Carolina goes, she might not be that bright, but she's great in bed!:D:DGet used to differing thoughts and personal feelings/opinions on this forum. If you can't/won't you're in the wrong place.;) JMHO

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I can certainly accept differing opinions when they are founded in experience, knowledge and insight... however it is made increasingly difficult when they are made with no clue from 3700 miles away:eek: JMHO

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Steve (Schultzy),

Latch on to these aussies! They are extremely keen on traditional bow hunting and the art of making traditional hunting gear. Their forum is loaded with hordes of"how to info"info. There aresome very bright bulbs in this group. They will take you under their wing and teach you how to fly!

Rob,

It's nice to have the opinion of others, especially when the subject matter directly concerns them. I hope you do mind me giving the boys from OZ an invitation. These ladsare the cream of the crop in their country. They stack animals in piles using nothing but traditional spot and stalk tactics (the main reason I become involved-I personally enjoy that method of take, and I amalways looking for guidance from the best). These lads will contribute greatly...eyes and minds will be opened!

Jeff,

I understand...based on what is depicted. Me on the backside of that camel isn't what it looks like either. In most cases, one cannot accept what thingsappear to be on the surface. Miss N.Carolina is more than likely a very bright girl ( she didn't get that far by being dumb. She simply stumbled under the pressure and spot light for that huge moment). She may or may not be a good lover. The point being: spend some time looking before you leap. Yes, you are entitled to your opinion. Make your opinion count.

Now, who besides me is up for an international exchange program? There's nothing like first hand experience! Who's willing to be the teacher and the student?

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You are a good man Huck, and as I've said to you before mate, any time you want to come over, the beer will be cold and the hunts lined up to go on!:D

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Like I said before, and I'll say again, you will NEVER walk up to a whitetail inMY area and kill it. This is based strictly on experience, knowledge and insight. The video clip that was shown is what I based my opinion on. I had nothing else to go on, hence my thoughts on "hunting" Camels. Sorry if that's hard to comprehend.Does the "land downunder" mean like under a rock?:D:DJK

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I've heard nothing but good things Will of these down under traditional hunters, I love reading the story's! As for the exchange program, now that would be something!!

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And I, having zero whitetail hunting experience believe you... but you will not extend the same belief to fellows on here with Australian game hunting experience and maintain your opinion based on ONE short video clip... that is what is hard to comprehend :eek:

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count me in 2. Locals or aborigines probably love the meat and I would eat my share while I was there too.

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I have walked up in plain daylight of a whitetail deer on several occasions. Getting close to wounded or hurt animals can be even easier. Doesn't happen all the time or even often, but it can happen. Im sure the same applies to these wild camels. Sure it can happen, but not often.

I just don't want to generalize a whole continent of hunting based off of one 5 minute clip of people walking up to and finishing off wounded camels.....ESPECIALLY because I have zero knowledge or experience on the subject matter. Everyone who does, is telling you it is nothing like what the action packed video depicts, but hey, what do they know.

It's kind of like those interview video clips where they catch people answering questions like a complete idiot. They interview all day long with correct answers, but the only ones that make the highlight are the three people with dumb answers...not the 1,000 others who were right. Neverput stock in or base opinions off of video clips on youtube.

There are PLENTY of videos making deer hunting seem easy, we as deer hunters know otherwise, but hey the video MUST be spot on, right?[&:]

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Luke.

Mate maybe you should extend an invite to all those who think it's that easy in Aus to bow hunt an invitation to come on down.

It will sort the men from the boys;)

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Same here!!

I've even had hand to Hoof combat with a few that were wounded[8D]

Dan

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American archers RULE! A big welcome from up above to our archery friends down under.

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Watch out were crazy....:D


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Cheers
Mick

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Trophy Bowhunts Aus--

Holy crap did he shoot that buff as it charged? It looked like the buff dropped for a second at the end. Now that is some crazy stuff there, I'd have to check my pants after that.

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G'day fellas,
Another Aussie here (but my mum was from Ohio, does that count?)
A little info i have gained on camels.
From experience: I was on a 2000 square mile property in outback australia, it had 200 camels on them, and we couldn't find them! They are called the "ships of the desert" or otherwise the "ghosts of the desert" and they are very hard to keep up with, especially in an area that size, unless you are spotting from a chopper or a 'plane. This property wanted them gone, as it could just keep enough water going from its salty wells to keep the sheep alive, and each camel can drink half of a 44-gallon drum in one go. That makes a mess of your wells.

From what i have been told/researched:
Camel tastes (if prepared right) very similar to beef. Each backstrap is like 80 steak sandwiches. You have to lay them down on their side, cut off the skin, then the fat of the hump and then take the backstrap in the normal way. The other prized section is not the rump but the front shoulder (as it is bigger) and in Saudi Arabia at least, three year old MALE camel is a delicacy. I would have thought female would have been likely to be more tender.

Camel can be classed as dangerous game. It is the male camels who come "on season" and when they do, they have been known to attack camel trains and horsemen, knocking them to the ground, and then kneeling over them and grinding them into the dust with a large "football sized" leathery pad on their dewlap. Not a pleasant way to die i would think.

If any American Archers want to hunt with some amazing diversity, without having to purchase tickets or licenses, contact Trophy Bowhunts Australia who posted on here before. Australia is a well-kept secret for bowhunting, and for those wanting a bit of variety (or have enough whitetail mounts on the wall) Mick can put them onto Chital Deer, Red Deer, Fallow Deer, Buffalo, Scrub Bulls, Cape hogs, Foxes, wild dogs, brumbies, feral cats, rabbits, hares, feral goats, (have i forgotten any Mick?)

Have a look at the exchange rate fellas. It makes it attractive. Or contact some hunters from aussiebowhunter.com . I am sure a few would host you and then you can return the favour in the U.S. of A one day.

Puk

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puk--intersting stuff. So your mom's from Ohio...pretty cool.Austraila sounds like an awesome place to bowhunt, an this thread has taught me a lot about game in Austraila. If I wasn't a poor college student I'd love to make a trip.

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He? He, is Mick from Trophy Bowhunts and that's a feral scrub bull (wild bull bovine) which are known for their very short temper.

:D

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O I see.. Thats awesome. Must have been one hell of an adrenaline rush

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It's great watching the long version, where he has run out of arrows for his recurve, and is running around, picking them up out of the grass, having another shot, running to find another one. Mick is one serious hunter.

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Huh? Rule what?

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Welcome to the forum all of you guys from overseas. Excited to have you and the overseas contacts for hopefully future travels.

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Seems like you guys have quite the grab bag of species to hunt over there. I had no idea. I was trying to find some info and ran across this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYyLoaJ-vh8

some beautiful country over there, hope this gives a little better of a visual to all the people that were doggin on hunting camels....

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We have a few species...

Rabbits,
hares,
cats,
dogs,
dingos,
goats,
pigs,
donkeys,
6 species of deer,
feral cattle,
buffalo,
brumbies (feral horses),
camels
and an array of fish species that can be bowhunted as well (european carp in South Australia only, for example).

All land dwelling bowhuntable species in Oz are feral or introduced (that is, non-native). Native animals are illegal to hunt with bow and arrow over here. Bowhunting for fish, or bowfishing generally can only take place in tidal waters where spear fishing is allowed (laws differ from state to state, again european carp in South Australia only, for example).

I think that's all... :D

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Good stuff OzGriff

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You forgot one species......women are they short tempered down there as well? I have gotten more enjoyment out of this post since you guys jumped on then I have in a while. Thanks for providing great insight.........Rob

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BTW the 6 species of deer are:
[ol][*]Red[*]Fallow[*]Rusa[*]Chital/Axis[*]Sambar[*]Hog (or swamp deer I think they are sometimes called overseas).[/ol]Again, from memory....

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Haha.... nice one! I guess it depends if you ask them about their "rack" size or not[:'(]

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Man your lucky! Iwish they did that in my part of Illinois!;)

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i have to agree they look way to easy, and as for bowhunting cows i have two things to say. Maximum archery did a corriente bull hunt in mexico, and a couple years ago a hispanic guy rolled into the checking station one mi. from myhome with a dead and gutted jersey heifer calf, thinking the entire time it was a deer.

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Welcome Aussie hunters. Your hunting style sounds like good old fashioned stalking and hard work. RESPECT. Take care and I hope to learn more about your tactics and styles as I am sure they could help me out in my hunting. I look forward to some of you alls posts in the future. I would like to hear about your stalk hunts, from the general to the specific details.

Brett

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A big welcome to our bowhunting brothers from Down Under! I hope you guys stop by here more often. This has been the most interesting thread I've seen on here in a good long time. It's great to see something as different and varied as what you guys get to hunt and where.

I want to apologize for some of the uneducated posts. A few of these guys have that "Holier than thou" attitude that really sucks sometimes. I'm just glad you're all not as quick to judge all of us by them as they seem to be doing with you guys based on one short video.

If I could, I'd join you on a hunt or three out there. Camels, pigs, whatever. If it tastes good, I'll kill it.

Again, welcome to the site. Don't be strangers.

Steve

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???? Why don't you just hunt trees....

Do you eat camel??

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Ahh, Clints vid. I still love watching that.
I recon that footage will give you a bit better idea of what Australian bow hunting has to offer.

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I have read this entire thread, and I have 2 things to say.

8pt~bowhunter, your arrogance shows badly when you make assumptions such as you did. I think you absence in the last 7 pages is proof enough that you realize this.

Second, welcome to all the new Aussie members. It is cool to have them aboard.

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HI guys my name is Shane and this is my first post to this site (Which is really cool btw ), Im the guy in the camel video in the plain shirt. Firstly let me say that all the animals taken were wild, we did about 450 miles that day and hit 1 fence which we followed for a while then left as we had no permission to cross.My first shot was easy as the tree in front of me masked the camels view and he couldnt see me, easy as. He was not injured just unable to see me and confused. We took about 40 lbs of meat and gave it to the locals who owned the land as a gift. We took meat off all the animals to hand out to different people along the way. In short camels are generally hard to get close to and have a history of killing people when they get riled as do most of the other things I hunt.
I watched a dvd of an american client here hunting buff and his stalking skills were terrible I guess its what you are used to. The way we tend to hunt is different to the states as are the animals, each to their own. I dont think much or sitting in a tree for ages or putting a pack of hounds on an animal but like I said each to their own. If you cant stalk a whitetail deer then go and ask an indian, people tell me they used to be able to get close to them.
I have travelled the states twice ( my brother in law is from boston ) and enjoyed my visits a great deal. Yes its different hunting stylesright or wrong well thats up to the beholder to decide but to criticise while having absolutely no idea what you are talking about speaks volumes. I guess I am lucky to be able to hunt where and whenever I want and the greatest lesson I have learnt is to keep an open mind.
cheers