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I must have missed that part.

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Go away!

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LOL...I know. Never let the truth get in the way of a good inflammatory statement!:D

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Stealthycat, you do know if you didn't cut the tree down and make your own bow, make your string from sinew and knap (chip) your own point from flint, your not bowhunting, your just recurving. :eek:

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magicman54494 your view on crossbows is highly frowned on, you know that right? Compound shooters all the way up to the Pope and Young Club lobby hard to keep them out of archery season.

Your compound brothers - what are your feeling on that? elitism at its finest?

and that, is where I am at as well as far as if its legal, hunt with it and enjoy! Pandora's box is wide open with compounds, allow crossbows and drawlock's too - up until the point where it effects archery seasons by days or bag limits, then restrictions definitely needs to be looked at for sure.

"beneath you" isn't accurate - its just recognizing what is more challenging and what isn't

why is that a problem ?


I absolutely know that self bowyers are the truest form of bowhunting - but that said, I can pick their self bows up and cane shafts with knapped heads and shoot them fairly well, they are pretty much the same bow and shooting that I do right now.

Can you say the same?

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Brad, you got to be kidding me. True, I can shoot my osage probably just as good as my zipper, but Brad, there is a huge difference in the 190fps I get with my zipper compared to my 155fps I get from my osage. You, yourself have faced the penetration delimma and have gone down the road of buying every super fast barebow, one can shoot.

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That would be 1 for 4 then?

Steve

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There's a little more too the BW debate I believe. I was all excited to get a PSA-V. But most of the riser is synthetic materials. My PLX has a big strip of Phenolic material running thru the riser. Where most trad bows has more wood than glass.

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What if I go to 1200 grain arrows and my Zipper now shoots the same speed as the Osage ? Still the same way of shooting the bow man - and compounds are not shot the same nor are crossbows.

Speed isn't what separates bows bigcountry - you know that



Shooting and killing are 2 different things, aren't they? I can shoot that osage, you very likely cannot if you're a compounder. I can shoot your compound easily though - they're built that way you know. We both can shoot a crossbow shooters bow in just a few shots too.

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notice nobody wants to talk about the hatred compound shooters have for crossbows?

start a thread declaring you don't mind crossbows in archery season - the rabid anti-cross zealots will come out in full elitist force exclaiming how some one else's choice of archery weapon doesn't belong in the season that compounders hijacked.

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Yes I can, I've made my own bow, string, Knapped my own point and killed deer with it.;)

Ilike to use 140 grain pine trees, beveled and fluted on one side. What type of point do you like to knap for deerhunting stealthy?

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gri22ly I've not progressed that far as a bowhunter - you're doing it a truer way, and much more difficult, and I admire that and respect it.

99.9% of compound shooters cannot say the same thing though

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No respect deserved for me, Imainly hunt with a compound and Grim Reapers.

Just something I like to do every now and then.

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Apparently quite a few of the trad shooters cannot say the same thing either.:);)

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Old buddy, you need to lay the blame where it belongs. It was the trad shooters of the 50's, 60's, and 70's that threw their longbow and recurves in the corner when the compound came along, no one hijacked the bow season, it just plain and simple changed by the very ones you keep relating to.
By he mid to late 60's I never seen anyone shoot a longbow, they had been totally replaced by the recurve.
When I got out of the Core in the late 70's I went to get a new Bow because my 67 Kodiak was showing stress on the limbs and guess what, if I wanted a recurve it had to be special ordered, went to several shops and no one had one!

You will shoot about the same with a compound if you take the sights off of it, maybe worse if your a snap shooter, just faster.

Fred Bear tried,to shot the compound, said he could not get use to it, the breakover threw his shot process off. I think he was a Bowhunter!

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You ought to post some picts of that in the trad forum. I am working on a sinew string right now myself for the hey of it. I want to compare speeds.

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so I guess Im a bowhunter in progress and after 18 yrs of shooting a compound??