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#52

ORIGINAL: Dubbya
Since when does a buck have to make P&Y before it's "good?" I didn't realize that shooting a 7.5 year old deer that scores 120 isn't a good deer, I learn something new everyday.
David, I bet all your deer tasted "good"... doesn't that count?

As for numbers... either 24 or 25 with a bow, I'm not sure which. Elk, Antelope, coyotes and about 50ish pigs with archery tackle as well.
ORIGINAL: davidmil
You know... exactly and almost why I didn't post my numbers. Everytime I do someone takes a shot at it. Look at people in Vermont or Maine. They get a tag. That's about it. GMMAT has a target rich environment. It's not a matter of will he see a deer, it's which one he will shoot. My buddy who I got into bowhunting this year has a very target rich environment. He literally can shoot a deer everytime he goes. He filled his last tag on Sunday after passing on 9 does. Numbers are decieving. To me, they're really deceiving. I started bowhunting before a lot of people on this forum were born. People today just do NOT understand the explosion of deer herds. There are areas today with unlimited tags that had no deer season when I started bowhunting. Can you imagine a time when really, less than 10 percent of hunters were successful with guns. Bowhunters????? I hunted for 5 or 6 years without ever seeing another bowhunter. Numbers are useless if you try to compare yourself to someone else or whatever. We bowhunt.... to bowhunt. Not to impress or be better than. I almost didn't post my numbers because everytimeI mention it... someone takes a shot. So be it. I really don't care. My numbers I'm sure don't impress some... but they are something to me. I've passed on deer and always try to make sure the next deer is bigger than the last in any particular year. I only got carried away one year and shot 5 bucks, each bigger than the last. That year I gave 5 of 7 away to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. I don't have a place for all the meat so stop shooting now.
P.S. If you want numbers... well you've chased away probably the most prolific body count guy from this site. He was whacking 14-18 a year with the bow but people had to take shots at his decision to shoot 2 or 3 deer at a time. He decided he didn't need the hassle.
ORIGINAL: kickin_buck
Just have to ask a honest question. Why is that impressive? I cannot speak for davidmil, but I know most of my kills were does. In fact, this was only the second year in which I killed two bucks in the same season. Also, you have to understand that is 25 years of hunting ground which has a very high deer population and in a state that does not restrict the number of does I can kill with archery equipment. You also have to realize that I am only averaging a little over 4 deer per year. Look at guys like GMMAT and how many deer he is averaging per year, he has put down a bunch of deer in a very short period.
I think if you want to look at numbers and say something is impressive, you should look at the number of "good" (P&Y) bucks taken, look at some of the other guys on here that are killing good/big bucks year after year (GregH).
ORIGINAL: Vabowman
kickin buck and davidmil......impressive...very impressive...I pass a lot of deer up every year, probably 10-15 a year, mostly bucks, in fact I passed on 11 bucks this year, and only one doe, I shot every doe that came into bow range that I could. If wasn't a picky I could a lot more than 25 bow kills, but ain't no way I could have as many as you two...that's just sick awesome..86 bow kills....man I bet that has been a ride David...kickin buck...over 90 bow kills?? Geez dude....that is sick!!! awesome guys!
kickin buck and davidmil......impressive...very impressive...I pass a lot of deer up every year, probably 10-15 a year, mostly bucks, in fact I passed on 11 bucks this year, and only one doe, I shot every doe that came into bow range that I could. If wasn't a picky I could a lot more than 25 bow kills, but ain't no way I could have as many as you two...that's just sick awesome..86 bow kills....man I bet that has been a ride David...kickin buck...over 90 bow kills?? Geez dude....that is sick!!! awesome guys!
I think if you want to look at numbers and say something is impressive, you should look at the number of "good" (P&Y) bucks taken, look at some of the other guys on here that are killing good/big bucks year after year (GregH).
P.S. If you want numbers... well you've chased away probably the most prolific body count guy from this site. He was whacking 14-18 a year with the bow but people had to take shots at his decision to shoot 2 or 3 deer at a time. He decided he didn't need the hassle.

David, I bet all your deer tasted "good"... doesn't that count?


As for numbers... either 24 or 25 with a bow, I'm not sure which. Elk, Antelope, coyotes and about 50ish pigs with archery tackle as well.
#56

ORIGINAL: davidmil
You know... exactly and almost why I didn't post my numbers. Everytime I do someone takes a shot at it. Look at people in Vermont or Maine. They get a tag. That's about it. GMMAT has a target rich environment. It's not a matter of will he see a deer, it's which one he will shoot. My buddy who I got into bowhunting this year has a very target rich environment. He literally can shoot a deer everytime he goes. He filled his last tag on Sunday after passing on 9 does. Numbers are decieving. To me, they're really deceiving. I started bowhunting before a lot of people on this forum were born. People today just do NOT understand the explosion of deer herds. There are areas today with unlimited tags that had no deer season when I started bowhunting. Can you imagine a time when really, less than 10 percent of hunters were successful with guns. Bowhunters????? I hunted for 5 or 6 years without ever seeing another bowhunter. Numbers are useless if you try to compare yourself to someone else or whatever. We bowhunt.... to bowhunt. Not to impress or be better than. I almost didn't post my numbers because every time I mention it... someone takes a shot. So be it. I really don't care. My numbers I'm sure don't impress some... but they are something to me. I've passed on deer and always try to make sure the next deer is bigger than the last in any particular year. I only got carried away one year and shot 5 bucks, each bigger than the last. That year I gave 5 of 7 away to Farmers and Hunters Feeding the Hungry. I don't have a place for all the meat so stop shooting now.
P.S. If you want numbers... well you've chased away probably the most prolific body count guy from this site. He was whacking 14-18 a year with the bow but people had to take shots at his decision to shoot 2 or 3 deer at a time. He decided he didn't need the hassle.
Numbers mean nothing... except when you've put an arrow into the boiler room 80 or 100 times, you've been there. You've seen just about everything that can go right or wrong. Everyone is different.
ORIGINAL: kickin_buck
Just have to ask a honest question. Why is that impressive? I cannot speak for davidmil, but I know most of my kills were does. In fact, this was only the second year in which I killed two bucks in the same season. Also, you have to understand that is 25 years of hunting ground which has a very high deer population and in a state that does not restrict the number of does I can kill with archery equipment. You also have to realize that I am only averaging a little over 4 deer per year. Look at guys like GMMAT and how many deer he is averaging per year, he has put down a bunch of deer in a very short period.
I think if you want to look at numbers and say something is impressive, you should look at the number of "good" (P&Y) bucks taken, look at some of the other guys on here that are killing good/big bucks year after year (GregH).
ORIGINAL: Vabowman
kickin buck and davidmil......impressive...very impressive...I pass a lot of deer up every year, probably 10-15 a year, mostly bucks, in fact I passed on 11 bucks this year, and only one doe, I shot every doe that came into bow range that I could. If wasn't a picky I could a lot more than 25 bow kills, but ain't no way I could have as many as you two...that's just sick awesome..86 bow kills....man I bet that has been a ride David...kickin buck...over 90 bow kills?? Geez dude....that is sick!!! awesome guys!
kickin buck and davidmil......impressive...very impressive...I pass a lot of deer up every year, probably 10-15 a year, mostly bucks, in fact I passed on 11 bucks this year, and only one doe, I shot every doe that came into bow range that I could. If wasn't a picky I could a lot more than 25 bow kills, but ain't no way I could have as many as you two...that's just sick awesome..86 bow kills....man I bet that has been a ride David...kickin buck...over 90 bow kills?? Geez dude....that is sick!!! awesome guys!
I think if you want to look at numbers and say something is impressive, you should look at the number of "good" (P&Y) bucks taken, look at some of the other guys on here that are killing good/big bucks year after year (GregH).
P.S. If you want numbers... well you've chased away probably the most prolific body count guy from this site. He was whacking 14-18 a year with the bow but people had to take shots at his decision to shoot 2 or 3 deer at a time. He decided he didn't need the hassle.
Numbers mean nothing... except when you've put an arrow into the boiler room 80 or 100 times, you've been there. You've seen just about everything that can go right or wrong. Everyone is different.
#57

GMMAT has a target rich environment. It's not a matter of will he see a deer, it's which one he will shoot.
I open my woods to several HNI'ers each season. So far......I'm 3 for 4 on putting them on "A" doe, each. Ask Rob how many shot opportunities he had this year in his 5 sits. Ask Frank how many deer he had to shoo off hunting with me this year. Will came all the way from CO to sit his first three sits without seeing a single deer. He shot the second of two he had a legitimate shot at killing in 6 sits, here.
I won't apologize for the grounds I hunt. I don't need to.
And....honestly....if you think you can attribute everything I kill to numbers.....I'd expect everyone here to put up similar ones.
Don't kid yourself

#59

I think 22 deer with a bow that I can count in 17 years. That number is low because many of those years I hunted PA and many of those years I didn't get doe tags. Also mixed in there are several years in Vermont hunting areas with really low (4-8 DPSM) populations. I also have 10 rifle kills and one muzzleloader kill.