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mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 11:15 AM

best camo?
 
what is the best camo out there to not be seen in your stand?

tandrhunts 12-14-2008 11:16 AM

RE: best camo?
 
google gore optifade

mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 11:18 AM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: tandrhunts

google gore optifade
i have seen that its real expensive though.
mossy oak treestand any good?

WKP Todd 12-14-2008 11:21 AM

RE: best camo?
 
Predator Fall Gray is the best pattern ever made IMO...

tandrhunts 12-14-2008 11:21 AM

RE: best camo?
 
I have never used it before

442deer 12-14-2008 12:46 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Ultimatecamo of course!

Rob/PA Bowyer 12-14-2008 01:04 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: WKP Todd

Predator Fall Gray is the best pattern ever made IMO...
Moss, There are several now that qualify in the top of the camo heap and it's there is no such thing as the best. Take Todd here and his so biased opinion on Fall Grey. Even Todd as biased as he is wouldn't wear Fall Grey in a spring turkey woods, or at least I would hope he wouldn't so that makes Fall Grey fall short as the best pattern ever made, it certainly has it's limitations. It's damn fine, I own it too and would and do wear it under the right circumstances. It's not full proof nor is it for every circumstance. Oh he'll claim he's only a deer hunter etc...etc.. Hogwash.

Fall Grey as fanastic as it is IMO falls short to Fall Brown. Fall Brown can and does get worn year around but as good as Fall Brown is, there are others that I have experience with that equals that of Fall Grey or even Fall Brown.

I wouldn't have issues wearing any of the following and in no particular order, Fall Brown, UltimateCamo, ASAT, Fall Grey, Enigma, MO Treestand, Realtree APG.

In all my experiences wearing so many different camos there is what I feel a superior camo but I won't even go there as I have zero faith in the company anymore so we'll leave it as a list of top several I've already listed.

Bowtech 360 12-14-2008 01:05 PM

RE: best camo?
 
After this year, I think that just staying super still in more important, deer will first see you by movement most of the time.

mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 01:39 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: Bowtech 360

After this year, I think that just staying super still in more important, deer will first see you by movement most of the time.
yeah i got busted by a buck for moving in my stand. i like realtree apg. my bow is covered in it

hardcorehunter 12-14-2008 01:57 PM

RE: best camo?
 
I'm with Rob...that's why my shed looks like a Cabelas store..I have tons of camo patterns for different situations..I wear a lot of predator fall brown...sometimes I mix it up with Realtreehardwoods top(cause I love the sweatshirt's quality) I wear predator green tops early season...I just bought a Skyline Horizen outfit that I found on clearance and it works gr8 in grayish white winter skylines and with snow on the ground...I like camo alot and am a camo junkie. I havean ASAT blind and it seems to fool animals's eyes very well..although I don't own any clothes. The ultimate looks gr8 and the new Optifade is exciting...Trying to pick just one is too hard for me...kind of like tryin 2 eat one lays potato chip..can't be done imo

mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 01:59 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

I'm with Rob...that's why my shed looks like a Cabelas store..I have tons of camo patterns for different situations..I wear a lot of predator fall brown...sometimes I mix it up with Realtreehardwoods top(cause I love the sweatshirt's quality) I wear predator green tops early season...I just bought a Skyline Horizen outfit that I found on clearance and it works gr8 in grayish white winter skylines and with snow on the ground...I like camo alot and am a camo junkie. I havean ASAT blind and it seems to fool animals's eyes very well..although I don't own any clothes. The ultimate looks gr8 and the new Optifade is exciting...Trying to pick just one is too hard for me...kind of like tryin 2 eat one lays potato chip..can't be done imo
thats true. im thinking about some time buying long sleeve tees in different camo patterns and just put the long sleeve over my hunting clothes for different situations

hardcorehunter 12-14-2008 02:00 PM

RE: best camo?
 
gr8 cheaper way to do it..buy them one or two sizes bigger...mixing camo patterns has always worked for me.

GMMAT 12-14-2008 02:04 PM

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I'm with Rob...that's why my shed looks like a Cabelas store..I have tons of camo patterns for different situations..
Think about it....it's entirely (best camo) reliant on when (waht time of year), where (tree?, ground?, hardwoods? pines?, etc...).

As an example.....what do you wear in a blind?

There is no "best". Period. I'd feel more camouflaged in grey sweats against a big oak in December.....than I would be if I had on Mossy Oak Breakup.



hardcorehunter 12-14-2008 02:12 PM

RE: best camo?
 
what is the best camo out there to not be seen in your stand?

yea..he didn't specify treestand indecember when leaves are all gone, except for the red pinoak you are in,with agrayish white sky, etc...see..no right answer..depends on where you are hunting. Predator falll gray would stickout like a neon sign in a pinoak tree with it's red leaves.


schester14 12-14-2008 02:31 PM

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Personally, I really like the leafy camo. Nice patterns and you get a little natural movement in your camo instead of just a solid figure.

davidmil 12-14-2008 02:49 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Lots of great camo in the right places .... the best varies. I have my favorites that could probably all be replaced by another similar pattern. It's not the camo, but it does help. I like the Skylines, Realtrees and Predators. I got 'em all.:D

TEmbry 12-14-2008 02:54 PM

RE: best camo?
 
I am starting to think for bare woods treestand hunting, predator fall gray can't bebeat.

Turkey? I dont see how anything could outperform my UC for sitting against the base of a tree, we shall see how it does.:)

Up north in AK this August, so long as we make it, Ill be sporting Predator Green Deception...I don't see how anything could blend into the green alpine better than that.

NY/Al 12-14-2008 02:57 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Ive had loads of success with AP this year, best camo ive ever worn.

TFOX 12-14-2008 03:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: tandrhunts

google gore optifade

That definately looks like it might change the camo world.

Looks like it will work very well.

mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 03:32 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: hardcorehunter

what is the best camo out there to not be seen in your stand?

yea..he didn't specify treestand indecember when leaves are all gone, except for the red pinoak you are in,with agrayish white sky, etc...see..no right answer..depends on where you are hunting. Predator falll gray would stickout like a neon sign in a pinoak tree with it's red leaves.


dang how did you get that stand up there?

mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 03:33 PM

RE: best camo?
 
i have never used predator camo but i might look up about it

buttonbuckmaster 12-14-2008 03:43 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Never much love for Natural Gear here. I have ASAT, Nat gear, realtree, fusion (under rated IMO) and Mossy Oak. Not a big fan of the MO, but the new tree stand looks good. I used Timber Ghost back in the day, Ultimate Camo seems to be the closest match to it on the market now. I'd feel confident with any of the above, buy what you like and sit still.:)

muzzyman88 12-14-2008 03:47 PM

RE: best camo?
 
I've been wearing Predator Fall Brown for the past 3 seasons and it works very well. However, IMO, I think camo is very over rated. I believe that any decent pattern will be effective.

If you look around at pics of guys with this big bucks, you'll probably notice a vast variety of camo patterns being worn. That simply tells me that it is just not that important. Movement is what hurts you more than anything.

hardcorehunter 12-14-2008 03:49 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: muzzyman88

I've been wearing Predator Fall Brown for the past 3 seasons and it works very well. However, IMO, I think camo is very over rated. I believe that any decent pattern will be effective.

If you look around at pics of guys with this big bucks, you'll probably notice a vast variety of camo patterns being worn. That simply tells me that it is just not that important. Movement is what hurts you more than anything.
I agree..and not hunting with the wind in your favor hurts the worst

Cougar Mag 12-14-2008 03:57 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Camo has really improved the last few years IMO. I am really liking my Realtree AP and using it almost exclusively this season.

Having said that I truly believe being still and how your stand is positioned relative to the deer entry trails is more important than the camo you are wearing.

mossbergman11/OH 12-14-2008 05:51 PM

RE: best camo?
 
i like realtree treebark for stands looks like it would work IMO
yeah what about natural gear?

Hoytail Hunter 12-14-2008 09:34 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Of the patternsmentioned, I've only experienced ASAT. Here are my accounts:

1) early october I was 15ft in a red oak right out in the open. I had a 1.5yr doe come in at 25yds and not notice me. There was nothing between me and the doe when I had to draw. She stopped when I drew and stood there for 3-4 seconds then continued as if nothing happened. Ikilled her.

2) late october I was 7ft in a cedar when a1.5yr 9pt buck came in from directly behind me. He stopped at 15yds and looked at my decoy which was in front of me for about a minute. He had to have looked directly passed me in order to see my decoy but never saw me and neverspooked. Ikilled him.

3) mid november I was once again in a bare trunk tree 13ft off the ground when a mature probably 4.5 buck came in directly in front of me and we had a staring contest at 13yds. He didn't exactly like what he saw but never did spook. I killed him.

In all the accounts, I was low or very low in a tree with zero cover. The range went from most of the leaves being on the trees to almost none of the leaves being on the trees. I think that has to say something about ASAT, especially with the 220 dressed 4.5 8ptr.

RobinAim Low 12-15-2008 11:58 AM

RE: best camo?
 
IMO, ASAT is it. There is no situation that I would not use it aside from inside a blind where black should be worn. I have worn it in early season deer stands tolate spring turkey hunts sitting on the ground tospot and stalk hunts in south Florida palmetto swamps.Yeah, it's ugly. But, it works. I could rattle off countless experiences similar to Hoytails above, but to keep it simple, time and time again my belief in the camo is reaffirmed. So many times an animal has "noticed" us (always with a cameraman) but not "seen" us. ASAT is less about "blending in" and more about "not sticking out" if that makes sense. It is simply hard for an animal to see or focus on it. If all I hunted was deer, I would agree that any camo can get it done if you set up right.

WKP Todd 12-15-2008 12:09 PM

RE: best camo?
 
PREDATOR FOR BOWHUNTING WHITETAILS PRIMARILY FROM ELEVATED POSITIONS IN THE MIDWEST- better Rob?

gri22ly 12-15-2008 12:09 PM

RE: best camo?
 
I justlike camo.....Alot of good patterns out there but I likeNatural Gear the most.





gri22ly 12-15-2008 12:38 PM

RE: best camo?
 
Looks like the best new camo in the world has jumped on the Natural Gear band wagon...LOL:D[8D]


Greg / MO 12-15-2008 12:45 PM

RE: best camo?
 
I knew this thread was going to save me a lot of typing down the road... ;)

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2399285

burniegoeasily 12-15-2008 03:38 PM

RE: best camo?
 
I have come to the conclusion that it dont matter. Heck, Bob (aka Rev) shot a buck on my land last Fri. wearing no camo at all. He was in a tree with little to noback ground and had no problem with the deer seeing him. I have done the same. Heck, ive shot more deer with army surplus camo than I have with expensive camo. Its all about breaking up your pattern, and nothing more. Deer have very little cones in their eyes, so color has very little consequence. Since thier eyes are loaded with rods, all you need is to have your pattern broke up and they will not pick you out. Ive set in a field, wearing arm surplus camo, in a folding chair, and had doe after doe walk past me, right out in the open. Deer key on movement more than anything. The situation Im speaking of, the deer would walk about 10 feet from me and do the head thing where they look, then look away real fast, just to look back, to see if I moved. They never picked me out, I guess they just thought i was a funny looking bunch of CRP grass.

mossbergman11/OH 12-15-2008 04:05 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: gri22ly

Looks like the best new camo in the world has jumped on the Natural Gear band wagon...LOL:D[8D]


i dont get it?

Hoytail Hunter 12-15-2008 04:21 PM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

I have come to the conclusion that it dont matter. Heck, Bob (aka Rev) shot a buck on my land last Fri. wearing no camo at all. He was in a tree with little to noback ground and had no problem with the deer seeing him. I have done the same.
The part of the equation left out here iswhether you drew on the animal while you were out in the open and still had it not spook? In all 3 of my situations I listed, I drew, they looked at the movement then dismissed it. Previous to ASAT, I'd get picked out or busted drawing then the game was over. None of that happened since I stated using ASAT.

burniegoeasily 12-16-2008 07:59 AM

RE: best camo?
 

ORIGINAL: Hoytail Hunter


ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily

I have come to the conclusion that it dont matter. Heck, Bob (aka Rev) shot a buck on my land last Fri. wearing no camo at all. He was in a tree with little to noback ground and had no problem with the deer seeing him. I have done the same.
The part of the equation left out here iswhether you drew on the animal while you were out in the open and still had it not spook? In all 3 of my situations I listed, I drew, they looked at the movement then dismissed it. Previous to ASAT, I'd get picked out or busted drawing then the game was over. None of that happened since I stated using ASAT.
Thats why I pointed out deer respond to motion. And you are right, I never drew on any of the deer I mentioned. I was out watching the deer because I was shooting yotes. I would never draw on any animal looking my way no matter how good I felt my camo was.;)

Kanga 12-16-2008 08:10 AM

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I guess they just thought i was a funny looking bunch of CRP grass.
They where probably right:D


bowman72 02-04-2009 09:18 PM

RE: best camo?
 
What about the Intrusion camo you have been wearing? How do you compare that to Predator?

Greg / MO 02-04-2009 09:44 PM

RE: best camo?
 
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2399285

Benny2 02-04-2009 10:06 PM

RE: best camo?
 
i shot 4 deer this year with my bow, all nice fat does. i was wearing mossy oak breakup on three of them and a blue sweatshirt and jeans on the fourth. i like the realtree advantage, but im sold on the breakup. asking the best camo is like asking the best dog breed, there is no right or wrong answer. it is more about being still and having the wind right, then about the camo.


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