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Hunting the same spots.....
Just curious...
1. How many times have you hunted, this season? 2. How many different spots/trees have you hunted? Me... 1. 82 sits, so far. 2. I've probably sat in the same tree 3 or 4 times (twice).....so I'm gonna say70 different sets, minimal. The shooting lanes thread got me thinking about this. If you'r ehunting the same stands time and time again......how much can you mix that up? |
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around 75 sits
6 different places Depending on the wind, but so far I have been hunting one spot alot mroe than usual. |
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32 Bow sits
2 States 25 Differant sets. |
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43 sits
12 different sights |
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I have no idea real numbers.. but..
Like 8 pieces to hunt.. 4 new pieces.. 2 pieces public.. maybe 35 sits (was a quick year for me). While buck hunting. Pushing 30 plus trees. Not counting the doe hunting I've done lately.. only sat two sets more than once. And of course being the camera dude doesn't count either. |
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Only fifteen sits...four different stand locations. Probably a reason why I still have my KY tag. I should take a hint. The fewest days in a stand in five years.
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If you hunt a stand in the right conditions...what is the difference. I'm not in anyway referring to me, but if a guy goes into his stand, hunts and leaves without spooking a deer, how did he pressure them?
I get where you are going with this, and agree to an extent...but if no deer is spooked, how is it added pressure for that spot? I dont keep track of my sits, but I have only hunted 5 different setups this year. 0 deer spooked from me on stand by sight...or smell that I know of, besides the buck I missed that has been on same trail 3x since. Heck, I only had a deer look up at me twice, and bothimmediately looked down and continued walking/feeding. The general area is probably pressured more, but that would be the same if I used a climber and changed trees in the same general area. I hope to haveclose to10setups next season across 3 counties, but realistically it will be more like 6-7 until I can buy another round of stands...I will be able to save my favorite spot until rut (best time for this place anyway)..and mix it up elsewhere until then. SO Unknown and 5 |
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31 sits
3 different pieces of property 6 different trees 7 different ground blind setups |
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Human scent, Bumping deer walking to and from your stand and movement in the stand.
ORIGINAL: TEmbry If you hunt a stand in the right conditions...what is the difference. I'm not in anyway referring to me, but if a guy goes into his stand, hunts and leaves without spooking a deer, how did he pressure them? I get where you are going with this, and agree to an extent...but if no deer is spooked, how is it added pressure for that spot? |
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Is morning/afternoon 2 sits?
If yes, In PA, probably something around 27 sits, 9 different trees and one ground blind. 1 buck, 1 doe. Buck on last sit. In IL, 10 sits, 4 of them being all day, 6 different trees. 1 buck. Buck on last sit. |
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20 sets this year
never in the same stand area. I use the days hunt to learn something for the next days hunt. |
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If you hunt a stand in the right conditions...what is the difference. I'm not in anyway referring to me, but if a guy goes into his stand, hunts and leaves without spooking a deer, how did he pressure them? I get where you are going with this, and agree to an extent...but if no deer is spooked, how is it added pressure for that spot? I dont keep track of my sits, but I have only hunted 5 different setups this year. 0 deer spooked from me on stand by sight...or smell that I know of, The general area is probably pressured more, but that would be the same if I used a climber and changed trees in the same general area. |
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ORIGINAL: 130woodman Human scent, Bumping deer walking to and from your stand and movement in the stand. ORIGINAL: TEmbry If you hunt a stand in the right conditions...what is the difference. I'm not in anyway referring to me, but if a guy goes into his stand, hunts and leaves without spooking a deer, how did he pressure them? I get where you are going with this, and agree to an extent...but if no deer is spooked, how is it added pressure for that spot? Human scent is going to spread in the area regardless of whether I change it up 100 yards down the line or not. I already stated if no deer busted me by seeing me on stand, is it any different than a mobile setup? Real questions, playing devils advocate to learn here. |
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ORIGINAL: GMMAT I sometimes move 50-60yds between sits in a general area.....and if you do this I think you're WAY better off than the alternative (hunting the same set time and time again). |
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I agree Tembry... I have 3 stands and 1 ground blind. They are all ladder stands so I don't have the ability to move them. I could but that is going to leave more scent than just letting them be. If you have rubber boots, scentlock, sprayed yourself down, and walk the same path into your stand everytime. Why would multiple trips to a stand be anydifferent than 1 trip. I don't like to hunt stands several days in a row but I will if I continue to have deer walking by. I have to say that if deer don't know your there when they walk through and you are sitting in a tree watching them, then they probably wont know you were there if you are no longer in your tree.
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You are right they can bump and smell ya. But they don't pattern you when you jump stands.
ORIGINAL: TEmbry ORIGINAL: 130woodman Human scent, Bumping deer walking to and from your stand and movement in the stand. ORIGINAL: TEmbry If you hunt a stand in the right conditions...what is the difference. I'm not in anyway referring to me, but if a guy goes into his stand, hunts and leaves without spooking a deer, how did he pressure them? I get where you are going with this, and agree to an extent...but if no deer is spooked, how is it added pressure for that spot? Human scent is going to spread in the area regardless of whether I change it up 100 yards down the line or not. I already stated if no deer busted me by seeing me on stand, is it any different than a mobile setup? Real questions, playing devils advocate to learn here. |
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I guess Im stating it wrong. I KNOW that it cant help my odds to hunt the same setup multiple times, my question is how does it hurt...Guys who hunt different parcels or huge chunks of land, are different...
but how would it help me to be "mobile" in a 40-80acre chunk ofland vs hunting out of the same 2-3 lockons spread throughout the parcel? Same number of entry or exits 3 in my case, maybe 4 or 5 if mobile(only so many ways to switch this up), same time in woods for scent to spook deer in area... same everything but because I am in the same tree that to my knowledge a deer hasn't seen me in yet, it hurts my odds..but how? |
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But do the guys who change a tree 60 yards down in the same woodlot not bump just as many deer on their walks in? Human scent is going to spread in the area regardless of whether I change it up 100 yards down the line or not. I already stated if no deer busted me by seeing me on stand, is it any different than a mobile setup? I just fail to see how moving only 50-60 yards significantly increases your odds of not spooking a deer. Scent reaches same places, same deer being hunted in same area...if they didnt look up and peg you last time in your hang on, what will make them this time vs a climber 50 yards down? but because I am in the same tree that to my knowledge a deer hasn't seen me in yet, it hurts my odds..but how? |
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1. How many times have you hunted, this season? I'm going to take a guess and say right around 30 sits (morning and evening sits combined).
2. How many different spots/trees have you hunted? Not nearly enough!!!!!! 8 different stands/tree's I've hunted out of. In my 130 acre's I hunt, 70 of that Is woods and swamp and the rest Is ag fields. I absolutely need more land to hunt on. Never have I hunted the same stands as many times as I have this year. A couple of my stands I've hunted as many as 6 times. |
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18 sits
7 different locations |
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WHen you go to the same stand day after day at the same time and the same way in the deer know where you are going and when. They can pattern you just like you try to pattern them. So if you pay attention to the wind direction when you walk in and use a differant route and have multiple stands in the same area for differant wind directions you should see your success rate go up. This is my opinion it may work for you it may not but it works for me in my situation.
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ORIGINAL: GMMAT The way I see it.....it's harder for a deer to avoid 70 setups. It's easy for them to avoid 5. I'd rather spook a deer in one spot.....then move.....than have that deer pattern me in one spot....and that be the only spot I hunt. You don't really think that him seeing you is even his FIRST line of knowing you were there.....do you? I know for sure I am looking at the small picture. But is a 50 yard difference the big picture?If a deer smells me, he has no clue what tree I am in, he just knows what area I am in. Im not sure what Im trying to get at, so Ill leave it where it is. Obviously changing it up can not possibly hurt your chances....and I am pointing out nothing essentially, if a deer smells you, he knows your in the area....I hopefully will have some lighter sticks and a light hang on for more mobile sets next year. I just need to make some money first.[&:] |
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I have really changed my sits up in a few areas this year. I have seen more deer as well. I have sat in 10 different trees so far. I have seen 8 deer. Every deer sighting was from a different tree. I have one tree that I use close to home, bordering a bedding area that I slip into from the same direction every time. (a small field) I have had multiple sightings of deer/bucks in this set for the last 3 seasons. I just don't over-sit it. I may sit it 2/3 times in a 8/10 day period, and then rest it for 4 days straight.
I really have come to enjoy changing trees with my climber (even only 50 to 75 yds at a sit) as it gives a different view of the area each time. Now, I will say this. Years ago, I have had friends, and myself included, have sightings of up to 4 different bucks from the same tree on 4 consecutive days of hunting that tree. So, even though you move 50 yds from one day to the next, you may be hurting your chances of seeing a bigger/better buck than the one you are hunting. Just my experience. (although, since our buck population is down from those days, this may not happen as often now "here") LT |
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42 sits for me this year, with about 30 different sets.
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I would have to think about that one for a while.... Probably 100-15 sits...maybe more.... Probably 25-30 different set-ups... A lot! I've seen nearly 100 deer or so...gotta be more. |
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I think more along the lines of TEmbry. I'll hunt a stand as many times as I want if I don't think it has been compromised.
If a deer is going to avoid an area because of human smell, is it better to 5 human smells in an area or 70? I'd think that with the commotion of moving around an area and setting up 70 different times might have the deer avoid the whole area altogether, rather than skirt a stand by a few yards. I hunt some of the same stand locations a lot. If one of my stands has been comprimised I'll know it. Deer skirting around the stand or no sightings at all. Then, obviously, I won't hunt it. But, if the deer are still using the trails I'm hunting and acting like they don't know I'm there, I'll keep hunting it when the wind is right. |
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I like your way of thinking too Greg. Good points. My only reason for moving in my area is I am still learning travel routes/bedding areas. Most of my area is thick as well, until late season. Deer can/do get by me without me ever seeing them. I am having fun learning where the hot sets are though.
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Of all my sits this year I have been in5 different stands, and harvested deer from 3 of them.
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ORIGINAL: 130woodman WHen you go to the same stand day after day at the same time and the same way in the deer know where you are going and when. They can pattern you just like you try to pattern them. So if you pay attention to the wind direction when you walk in and use a differant route and have multiple stands in the same area for differant wind directions you should see your success rate go up. This is my opinion it may work for you it may not but it works for me in my situation. |
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I have 21 sits under my belt - I have kids :)
Area 1) 6 sits - 2 Doe kills-BOW ( passed on 6 ----1.5 year old bucks) Area 2) 1 Sit - (Passed on yearlings and 3 ---1.5 year old bucks) Area 3) 14 Sits - (Passed on dozens of deer and 9--- 1.5 year old bucks)..I had a 120 class shooter buck out of range..Killed 3 does in this area. I do not shoot young bucks...A shooter for me now is 110 + in the areas I hunt. I have 3 DOE bow kills and 3 Gun kills... I have passed on roughly 20 young bucks..spikes, 3's, 4's 5's , 6's, 7's and a 13 inch 8 pointer. I will sit 10 more times before Jan.1 |
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Its funny you should mention this. I just updated my log book lastnight since I am done for the year.
I only have one 15 acre chunk of land that I hunt. I have 6 different stands on this land. 35 sits this year Stand #1........5 sits Stand #2........6 sits Stand #3........4 sits Stand #4........2 sits Stand #5........5 sits Stand #6........5 sits I moved 2 of the stands once thruout the year, so.. Stand #7........5 sits Stand #7........3 sits Total hours on stand........93.5 hours Now before someone says something, I know .... that is only an average of 2.67 hours per sit.[8D] Deer sightings 16 bucks 20 does |
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ORIGINAL: GregH I think more along the lines of TEmbry. I'll hunt a stand as many times as I want if I don't think it has been compromised. If a deer is going to avoid an area because of human smell, is it better to 5 human smells in an area or 70? I'd think that with the commotion of moving around an area and setting up 70 different times might have the deer avoid the whole area altogether, rather than skirt a stand by a few yards. I hunt some of the same stand locations a lot. If one of my stands has been comprimised I'll know it. Deer skirting around the stand or no sightings at all. Then, obviously, I won't hunt it. But, if the deer are still using the trails I'm hunting and acting like they don't know I'm there, I'll keep hunting it when the wind is right. |
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ORIGINAL: MOTOWNHONKEY ORIGINAL: GregH I think more along the lines of TEmbry. I'll hunt a stand as many times as I want if I don't think it has been compromised. If a deer is going to avoid an area because of human smell, is it better to 5 human smells in an area or 70? I'd think that with the commotion of moving around an area and setting up 70 different times might have the deer avoid the whole area altogether, rather than skirt a stand by a few yards. I hunt some of the same stand locations a lot. If one of my stands has been comprimised I'll know it. Deer skirting around the stand or no sightings at all. Then, obviously, I won't hunt it. But, if the deer are still using the trails I'm hunting and acting like they don't know I'm there, I'll keep hunting it when the wind is right. |
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I think more along the lines of TEmbry. I'll hunt a stand as many times as I want if I don't think it has been compromised. If a deer is going to avoid an area because of human smell, is it better to 5 human smells in an area or 70? I'd think that with the commotion of moving around an area and setting up 70 different times might have the deer avoid the whole area altogether, rather than skirt a stand by a few yards. I think more along the lines of TEmbry. I'll hunt a stand as many times as I want if I don't think it has been compromised. If a deer is going to avoid an area because of human smell, is it better to 5 human smells in an area or 70? I'd think that with the commotion of moving around an area and setting up 70 different times might have the deer avoid the whole area altogether, rather than skirt a stand by a few yards. I hunt some of the same stand locations a lot. If one of my stands has been comprimised I'll know it. Deer skirting around the stand or no sightings at all. Then, obviously, I won't hunt it. But, if the deer are still using the trails I'm hunting and acting like they don't know I'm there, I'll keep hunting it when the wind is right. Deer skirting around the stand or no sightings at all. Then, obviously, I won't hunt it. But, if the deer are still using the trails I'm hunting and acting like they don't know I'm there, I'll keep hunting it when the wind is right. I'd like to hear your views on deer patterning hunters....and how you think hunting the same spots won't contribute to that, more adversely. I hunt some of the same stand locations a lot. If one of my stands has been comprimised I'll know it. Deer skirting around the stand or no sightings at all. Then, obviously, I won't hunt it. But, if the deer are still using the trails I'm hunting and acting like they don't know I'm there, I'll keep hunting it when the wind is right. You may sway me to your side.....and I'm ONLY giving a dissenting view. I'd love to further discuss this with you. Thanks. |
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I am close to 30 sits thus far. I would have to say I have sat in 27-28 different trees/locations with my climber. I sat 3 times consecutively in on tree over a 3 day period when I saw 10 different bucks, but no shooters. Then the action died down.
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For me....
8 different sets. 5 or 6of them are pre-rut sets that I alternate between through out the season. 2 of these are rut stands (last two weeks of season) I'll sit in those buggers every day. By seasons end....1 missed buck in archery, one dead doe and one dead buck in rifle season. All from my rut stand. I agree that spooking deer while going to and from a stand is very bad. I'll also agree that stinking the joint up isn't all that great. However, I still feel way too much emphasis is being put on scent while going to and from a stand. Case in point. Last week, during rifle season, I was sitting in my "rut" stand and watched a 6 point walk directly under my stand, by me, and then proceeded to sniff every footprint in the snow where I walked in. Never bolted, looked alarmed or anything. I do not wear knee highs. I just drown my boots in scent killer before leaving the truck. Keep your scent down as much as you possibly can. Get in plenty early and stay late. You'll be fine. |
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I'm fortunate enough to have my own land a total of 250 acres. I have 30+ sets to choose from. Most of them are set by the end of August or never come down. There is minimal disturbance durning the bow season. I might relocate if I see something change or get busted in a set but thats it.
ORIGINAL: GregH ORIGINAL: 130woodman WHen you go to the same stand day after day at the same time and the same way in the deer know where you are going and when. They can pattern you just like you try to pattern them. So if you pay attention to the wind direction when you walk in and use a differant route and have multiple stands in the same area for differant wind directions you should see your success rate go up. This is my opinion it may work for you it may not but it works for me in my situation. |
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My first is going to be a guess, I dont log it but i hunted my butt off this season.
1. around 100 sits 2. 18 different trees |
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112 sits
392 hours (estimate) 30 or so different trees. 4 different pieces of property. |
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ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer Is morning/afternoon 2 sits? If yes, In PA, probably something around 27 sits, 9 different trees and one ground blind. 1 buck, 1 doe. Buck on last sit. In IL, 10 sits, 4 of them being all day, 6 different trees. 1 buck. Buck on last sit. I usually go into a stand I sit all day. Sometimes I may switch stands mid-day, but usually not. I rarely hunt any one stand location more than 4 to 5 times a year. Depending on the location. Some can be hunted a little more with No harm and some you need to hunt less because of the difficulty ingetting a perfect wind to hunt that particular spot. Dan |
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