So are they ??
12-05-2008 | 10:40 AM
#21
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: solocamcan
I agree and disagree on this.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.
12-05-2008 | 10:43 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Thats so funny, you sound like my ex. You take what I say then twist the words. This is a classical example of "he said ,she heard"
ORIGINAL: solocamcan
I agree and disagree on this.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.
12-05-2008 | 11:00 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: solocamcan
Hahaha....I didn't intend to twist, I thought that's what you were getting at...that deer will just roam around freely at all hoursbecause they know they are "safe" in un-hunted or lightly pressured areas. And I agree, I did sound a little wife'ish....it's what happens when brainwashed by marriage....sorry.
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Thats so funny, you sound like my ex. You take what I say then twist the words. This is a classical example of "he said ,she heard"
ORIGINAL: solocamcan
I agree and disagree on this.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.
12-05-2008 | 11:20 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: YooperMike
Big accusations here. With as high profile as these people have become, I find it VERY hard to believe they would be stocking pen raised deer without it being known. In the states these people hunt, there is no reason to stock anyway. There is also no reason why a large tract of land can't support the bucks that are being harvested. With good management, and low doe numbers, the number of bucks can be pretty astonishing. The Lakosky's for example, kill maybe6-8 bucks per year off of ALL their properties combined, so when you think about it, that's not very many. A good friend of mine manages ground here in IL for a wealthy landowner, and they have 8 guys that hunt, and for each to kill a 160" or larger (that is their rule)is not uncommon, but spread out over 5 properties. When you have multiple properties that are intensely managed, it is absolutely possible to harvest multiple brutes off these areas.
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
I have to question how some of the big name celebrity landowners are able to hunt for, and harvest so many exceptional bucks with regularity each and every season on their property. There are several of the celebrity hunting couples these days thatseem to invite quite a few celebrity guests to their farms each year andbetween them and theirnumerous guests hunting both bow and gun seasonharvest an abnormally large number of trophy deer, often seeimg to be more than the land would probably be able to hold even with QDM in place. I've heard speculation that some outfitters and landowners supplement their herd each season to increase the trophy potentialwith deer (primarily big bucks)purchased from private breaders. This practice is nothing new as hunting ranches have been known to bring in deer to increase genetic potential for years now. Not sure whether this is actually happening or not, but would be a likely explanation of how any one group of farms could hold so many exceptional deer each and every season, year after year.
I have to question how some of the big name celebrity landowners are able to hunt for, and harvest so many exceptional bucks with regularity each and every season on their property. There are several of the celebrity hunting couples these days thatseem to invite quite a few celebrity guests to their farms each year andbetween them and theirnumerous guests hunting both bow and gun seasonharvest an abnormally large number of trophy deer, often seeimg to be more than the land would probably be able to hold even with QDM in place. I've heard speculation that some outfitters and landowners supplement their herd each season to increase the trophy potentialwith deer (primarily big bucks)purchased from private breaders. This practice is nothing new as hunting ranches have been known to bring in deer to increase genetic potential for years now. Not sure whether this is actually happening or not, but would be a likely explanation of how any one group of farms could hold so many exceptional deer each and every season, year after year.
12-05-2008 | 11:30 AM
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RE: So are they ??
Thats why the DVR is so cool. I can just fast forward to the kill shots which is what I want to see anyway. (Tiffany Excluded).
We all wish we had it as good as those guys do. Acres and acres at your disposal and when they do go on an "outfitted" hunt the guide has left the best stands untouchedfor their use.
If they don't kill the show dies but they are all product prostitutes just trying to sell the rest of us crap which by the way we end up buying.
We all wish we had it as good as those guys do. Acres and acres at your disposal and when they do go on an "outfitted" hunt the guide has left the best stands untouchedfor their use.
If they don't kill the show dies but they are all product prostitutes just trying to sell the rest of us crap which by the way we end up buying.
12-05-2008 | 11:44 AM
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RE: So are they ??
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time.
I think they prefer night time to mid day.....but I always thought they were more geared/wired/etc... for the dawn and dusk hours (I think the term is 'crepuscular' sp?).
