So are they ??
12-05-2008 | 09:40 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: So are they ??
Germ's point is RIGHT ON as fas as "passing" goes. A 140" comes by me, he's getting jacked, and i'm in IL, but certainly not on a Drury property. I saw two deer this year that would gross Boone, but "saw" is the key word here. There is no doubt that there are more of them here than other places, but outside the rut, they are just as scarce as anywhere else. The thing here is that you can see them at night, get cam pics, so you know they are there, but during daylight, it is frustrating as hell not seeing them, yet knowing he is close by. Saw the same boone twice this year when pulling in to where I park to hunt, NEVER saw him while hunting. Not sure if I would rather not know what is there, or know what is there and then not see him during hunting time.
12-05-2008 | 09:41 AM
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RE: So are they ??
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely. If they are scared they will lay low. Hell, if theres' a private piece thats never been hunted in the middle of thousands of hunters the deer will learn it's safe and move all day.
As far as who is a good hunter or the best hunter I can answer that too.
I hunted pressured deer in a "brown it's down" environment for many years. I shot 2bucks that were 2 years old. This was in farm country type setting.
I started hunting the big woods of northern Wis and Minn. (IMO a much tougher type of hunting then the broken woods farm country) I have killed a lot of deer that were 4 years old and older. I'm the same guy as I was when I hunted the farm country yet my mature deer kills went way up. So who's the best hunter? The guy who has some deer knowledge and the best location
As far as who is a good hunter or the best hunter I can answer that too.
I hunted pressured deer in a "brown it's down" environment for many years. I shot 2bucks that were 2 years old. This was in farm country type setting.
I started hunting the big woods of northern Wis and Minn. (IMO a much tougher type of hunting then the broken woods farm country) I have killed a lot of deer that were 4 years old and older. I'm the same guy as I was when I hunted the farm country yet my mature deer kills went way up. So who's the best hunter? The guy who has some deer knowledge and the best location
12-05-2008 | 09:53 AM
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RE: So are they ??
As far as who is a good hunter or the best hunter I can answer that too.
I hunted pressured deer in a "brown it's down" environment for many years. I shot 2bucks that were 2 years old. This was in farm country type setting.
I started hunting the big woods of northern Wis and Minn. (IMO a much tougher type of hunting then the broken woods farm country) I have killed a lot of deer that were 4 years old and older. I'm the same guy as I was when I hunted the farm country yet my maturee left alone they will move alot moredeer kills went way up. So who's the best hunter? The guy who has some deer knowledge and the best location
I hunted pressured deer in a "brown it's down" environment for many years. I shot 2bucks that were 2 years old. This was in farm country type setting.
I started hunting the big woods of northern Wis and Minn. (IMO a much tougher type of hunting then the broken woods farm country) I have killed a lot of deer that were 4 years old and older. I'm the same guy as I was when I hunted the farm country yet my maturee left alone they will move alot moredeer kills went way up. So who's the best hunter? The guy who has some deer knowledge and the best location
You remind me of the benoit brothers or Hal Bloodstyle of hunting, (not that I know them, just what i have seen and read) If you ever come to Maine to hunt our big woods whitetails I would love to shadow you in the woods.
12-05-2008 | 10:01 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: Germ
I got in a tiff with Mark Drury in 2002 at a seminar. He was preaching about taking only broadside shots. He ask who would not take one I said I have
He ask why, and I quote "Well Mr. Drury when you can pass a 140 class because the angle is bad, and wait 20 mins and have a 160 class come by, I would also "pass". When I got a 140 class in front of me, that's it, this is my one shot to score. I am not going to let it pass"
I did not win any prizes.
For the recrod the some famous big buck hunters do "things" to their property. The make funnels with hay bails/wire and other stuff. Wire is a big one amoung some well know big buck hunters. Guide the deer like cattle
I got in a tiff with Mark Drury in 2002 at a seminar. He was preaching about taking only broadside shots. He ask who would not take one I said I have
He ask why, and I quote "Well Mr. Drury when you can pass a 140 class because the angle is bad, and wait 20 mins and have a 160 class come by, I would also "pass". When I got a 140 class in front of me, that's it, this is my one shot to score. I am not going to let it pass"I did not win any prizes.
For the recrod the some famous big buck hunters do "things" to their property. The make funnels with hay bails/wire and other stuff. Wire is a big one amoung some well know big buck hunters. Guide the deer like cattle
12-05-2008 | 10:08 AM
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RE: So are they ??
I have to question how some of the big name celebrity landowners are able to hunt for, and harvest so many exceptional bucks with regularity each and every season on their property. There are several of the celebrity hunting couples these days thatseem to invite quite a few celebrity guests to their farms each year andbetween them and theirnumerous guests hunting both bow and gun seasonharvest an abnormally large number of trophy deer, often seeimg to be more than the land would probably be able to hold even with QDM in place. I've heard speculation that some outfitters and landowners supplement their herd each season to increase the trophy potentialwith deer (primarily big bucks)purchased from private breaders. This practice is nothing new as hunting ranches have been known to bring in deer to increase genetic potential for years now. Not sure whether this is actually happening or not, but would be a likely explanation of how any one group of farms could hold so many exceptional deer each and every season, year after year.
12-05-2008 | 10:09 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: dmen
As far as who is a good hunter or the best hunter I can answer that too.
I hunted pressured deer in a "brown it's down" environment for many years. I shot 2bucks that were 2 years old. This was in farm country type setting.
I started hunting the big woods of northern Wis and Minn. (IMO a much tougher type of hunting then the broken woods farm country) I have killed a lot of deer that were 4 years old and older. I'm the same guy as I was when I hunted the farm country yet my maturee left alone they will move alot moredeer kills went way up. So who's the best hunter? The guy who has some deer knowledge and the best location
I hunted pressured deer in a "brown it's down" environment for many years. I shot 2bucks that were 2 years old. This was in farm country type setting.
I started hunting the big woods of northern Wis and Minn. (IMO a much tougher type of hunting then the broken woods farm country) I have killed a lot of deer that were 4 years old and older. I'm the same guy as I was when I hunted the farm country yet my maturee left alone they will move alot moredeer kills went way up. So who's the best hunter? The guy who has some deer knowledge and the best location
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I have read every piece of info on the Benoits and Blood. I have been tracking for a few years now with great results. If I ever get out that way I will look you up.
12-05-2008 | 10:16 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: IAhuntr
I have to question how some of the big name celebrity landowners are able to hunt for, and harvest so many exceptional bucks with regularity each and every season on their property. There are several of the celebrity hunting couples these days thatseem to invite quite a few celebrity guests to their farms each year andbetween them and theirnumerous guests hunting both bow and gun seasonharvest an abnormally large number of trophy deer, often seeimg to be more than the land would probably be able to hold even with QDM in place. I've heard speculation that some outfitters and landowners supplement their herd each season to increase the trophy potentialwith deer (primarily big bucks)purchased from private breaders. This practice is nothing new as hunting ranches have been known to bring in deer to increase genetic potential for years now. Not sure whether this is actually happening or not, but would be a likely explanation of how any one group of farms could hold so many exceptional deer each and every season, year after year.
I have to question how some of the big name celebrity landowners are able to hunt for, and harvest so many exceptional bucks with regularity each and every season on their property. There are several of the celebrity hunting couples these days thatseem to invite quite a few celebrity guests to their farms each year andbetween them and theirnumerous guests hunting both bow and gun seasonharvest an abnormally large number of trophy deer, often seeimg to be more than the land would probably be able to hold even with QDM in place. I've heard speculation that some outfitters and landowners supplement their herd each season to increase the trophy potentialwith deer (primarily big bucks)purchased from private breaders. This practice is nothing new as hunting ranches have been known to bring in deer to increase genetic potential for years now. Not sure whether this is actually happening or not, but would be a likely explanation of how any one group of farms could hold so many exceptional deer each and every season, year after year.
12-05-2008 | 10:21 AM
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From: maine
RE: So are they ??
I have read every piece of info on the Benoits and Blood. I have been tracking for a few years now with great results. If I ever get out that way I will look you up.
12-05-2008 | 10:24 AM
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RE: So are they ??
ORIGINAL: magicman54494
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer - anywhere! If they are left alone they will move alot more freely.
I agree Deer are Deer-anywhere
I disagree with- If left alone they will move alot more freely.
Deer are deer...meaning they are nocturnal by nature, it doesn't matter ifa thousand peoplehunt a piece of land or it's left alone for years...deer prefer night time. They may move more at first light and right before dark, but to say deer move throughout the entire day outside of the rut..I don't buy it. I live close to some untouched land owned by the University of Illinois and it's absolutely LOADED with deer, and big deer at that, and I hardly ever see deer moving freely when the sun is high in the sky, but ALWAYS see them during "regular" hunting hours.