Is it really that much better??
#122
Certain PARTS of Certain STATES are better.
Not states in general.
Not states in general.
Landon- Anywhere that you have unbelievable hunting pressure, good luck on figuring stuff out. Taking notes from other big buck states won't get you know where when you have this type of pressure.
#123
I am going to shock the world and kill a P&Y PA, VA, and NC deer.
[8D]
People are running around in circles on this. Antlers only? yes, they are bigger where more food, genetics, and age allow them to do so. Whether that be outfitters land in NC or managed land in IL.
Jeff, that situation isn't all that uncommon. (1.5 yo biggest deer all year) I could name you 10 farms around here where guys only see bucks like that as their biggest (KY). Some areas don't produce like ones ten minutes down the road....main reason imo? The guys that only see bucks like this hunt in an area where any and all bucks are shot....the area 10 minutes down the road, people hold out for bigger animals.
Theoretical question for anyone to take a stab at, if IL hunters swapped places with PA hunters....10 years from now, what will it be like? PA the new IL and IL now only small younger deer? It's all in the hunters as a massIMO.
[8D]People are running around in circles on this. Antlers only? yes, they are bigger where more food, genetics, and age allow them to do so. Whether that be outfitters land in NC or managed land in IL.
Jeff, that situation isn't all that uncommon. (1.5 yo biggest deer all year) I could name you 10 farms around here where guys only see bucks like that as their biggest (KY). Some areas don't produce like ones ten minutes down the road....main reason imo? The guys that only see bucks like this hunt in an area where any and all bucks are shot....the area 10 minutes down the road, people hold out for bigger animals.
Theoretical question for anyone to take a stab at, if IL hunters swapped places with PA hunters....10 years from now, what will it be like? PA the new IL and IL now only small younger deer? It's all in the hunters as a massIMO.
#125
ORIGINAL: Matt / PA
Someone name me ONE person from IL, IA, or KS that comes to PA, NY or VA to hunt deer every year. Just one.
Someone name me ONE person from IL, IA, or KS that comes to PA, NY or VA to hunt deer every year. Just one.

Buckeye, PLEASE go back next year so it can be considered every year and my point isn't invalid.
#126
ORIGINAL: Schultzy
Well said Kyle! I just wish we had more of these "Certain Parts" In Minnesota. We have the genetics, just not the right tools (DNR) to get It completed and back to what It once was.
Certain PARTS of Certain STATES are better.
Not states in general.
Not states in general.
Anyways:
Minnesota has more "certain parts" then people think. I think people (not just you) are still looking "too big". Think smaller. Not even regions of the state, I'm talking move COUNTIES.
You know I agree with you on the DNR issue[:@]
#127
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
Anyways:
_____________ has more "certain parts" then people think. I think people (not just you) are still looking "too big". Think smaller. Not even regions of the state, I'm talking move COUNTIES.
Anyways:
_____________ has more "certain parts" then people think. I think people (not just you) are still looking "too big". Think smaller. Not even regions of the state, I'm talking move COUNTIES.
Ill one up you and say counties can even be too big of a picture. Moving 5 minutes down the road can make all the difference in the world from famine to feast.
#128
ORIGINAL: TEmbry
fixed it for you as that applies anywhere.
Ill one up you and say counties can even be too big of a picture. Moving 5 minutes down the road can make all the difference in the world from famine to feast.
ORIGINAL: MN/Kyle
Anyways:
_____________ has more "certain parts" then people think. I think people (not just you) are still looking "too big". Think smaller. Not even regions of the state, I'm talking move COUNTIES.
Anyways:
_____________ has more "certain parts" then people think. I think people (not just you) are still looking "too big". Think smaller. Not even regions of the state, I'm talking move COUNTIES.
Ill one up you and say counties can even be too big of a picture. Moving 5 minutes down the road can make all the difference in the world from famine to feast.

#130
Dominant Buck
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,199
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From: Blossvale, New York
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
I'd also like to note that within the next year I'm gonna try to make a trip to Kansas or Iowa to hunt whitetail.
Now.. I'm not stupid enough to point at my globe and say.. "Iowa is great and full of big bucks.. I'll just go here". And point to anywheresville Iowa.
I'm gonna research. Ask Q's to those who live and hunt there.. and get the best knowledge I can of that state... that region.. that county.. that township I want to be.
I don't want to go to Iowa. I want to go to a piece of heaven in Iowa.
Does that make more sense for some of you.
I'd also like to note that within the next year I'm gonna try to make a trip to Kansas or Iowa to hunt whitetail.
Now.. I'm not stupid enough to point at my globe and say.. "Iowa is great and full of big bucks.. I'll just go here". And point to anywheresville Iowa.
I'm gonna research. Ask Q's to those who live and hunt there.. and get the best knowledge I can of that state... that region.. that county.. that township I want to be.
I don't want to go to Iowa. I want to go to a piece of heaven in Iowa.
Does that make more sense for some of you.


