October's Mini-Rut!!??
12-04-2008, 05:40 PM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
ORIGINAL: Primetime/IL
As soon as a buck sheds its velvet, it is capable of breeding so to see chasing or any interest along those lines anytime in October is not suprising. As duke michaels has said, does actually come into a so called "estrous" a month before her real one, and I have heard that as well.
As far as the Lull goes, to me theres no set time of the lull, it doesnt have to happen at the end of october or beginning for that matter there are many factors that come into play when experiencing it. I think temperatures play the biggest part, some years when it so happens to be warmer around the end of october(which usually it does)of coarse you will see the greatest sign of it. October does also seem to have the greatest fluctuation of temps.
As soon as a buck sheds its velvet, it is capable of breeding so to see chasing or any interest along those lines anytime in October is not suprising. As duke michaels has said, does actually come into a so called "estrous" a month before her real one, and I have heard that as well.
As far as the Lull goes, to me theres no set time of the lull, it doesnt have to happen at the end of october or beginning for that matter there are many factors that come into play when experiencing it. I think temperatures play the biggest part, some years when it so happens to be warmer around the end of october(which usually it does)of coarse you will see the greatest sign of it. October does also seem to have the greatest fluctuation of temps.
12-05-2008, 06:10 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
It is a biological fact that whitetail does come into their first "false" estrous cycle about a month (or more sometimes) before the real one.. so to speak.
Not to mention mother natures plan to stagger newborns over several weeks or months to ensure survival of the species.
What can I say.. I read alot.
It is a biological fact that whitetail does come into their first "false" estrous cycle about a month (or more sometimes) before the real one.. so to speak.
Not to mention mother natures plan to stagger newborns over several weeks or months to ensure survival of the species.
What can I say.. I read alot.
12-05-2008, 06:18 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
Greg,
I read the same article and wondered the same thing. Your statement on human pressure is very true and can even slow the rut or make it nocturnal activity (as I experienced this year.)
Your chart on the average conception date was interesting because it shows approximately the 14th as the best date. PA recently did a study and came up with the same dates. So with that said, does that mean the Moon really has nothing to do with it?
I read the same article and wondered the same thing. Your statement on human pressure is very true and can even slow the rut or make it nocturnal activity (as I experienced this year.)
Your chart on the average conception date was interesting because it shows approximately the 14th as the best date. PA recently did a study and came up with the same dates. So with that said, does that mean the Moon really has nothing to do with it?
12-05-2008, 06:33 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
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But when we get into magazines and deadlines and trying to become the next great shocking writer...... just because we read it doesn't make it so or of enough significance to matter.
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
It is a biological fact that whitetail does come into their first "false" estrous cycle about a month (or more sometimes) before the real one.. so to speak.
Not to mention mother natures plan to stagger newborns over several weeks or months to ensure survival of the species.
What can I say.. I read alot.
It is a biological fact that whitetail does come into their first "false" estrous cycle about a month (or more sometimes) before the real one.. so to speak.
Not to mention mother natures plan to stagger newborns over several weeks or months to ensure survival of the species.
What can I say.. I read alot.
Your like that old guy who thinks he knows everything and talks about how his generation was the greatest all the time.
Your generation probably wrote it.
And the mother nature part.. thats called common sense.
12-05-2008, 06:48 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
SOB I will be 43 in april.[:@]
But I still have a mean fastball buddy.
Remember thatthrow to 2nd base someone dropped because
they couldnt handle my throw while you were playing catcher due to injury.[:-] Next time he is getting
a knuckle curve.
But I still have a mean fastball buddy.
Remember thatthrow to 2nd base someone dropped becausethey couldnt handle my throw while you were playing catcher due to injury.
[:-] Next time he is gettinga knuckle curve.
12-05-2008, 11:04 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
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Greg,
I read the same article and wondered the same thing. Your statement on human pressure is very true and can even slow the rut or make it nocturnal activity (as I experienced this year.)
Your chart on the average conception date was interesting because it shows approximately the 14th as the best date. PA recently did a study and came up with the same dates. So with that said, does that mean the Moon really has nothing to do with it?
Greg,
I read the same article and wondered the same thing. Your statement on human pressure is very true and can even slow the rut or make it nocturnal activity (as I experienced this year.)
Your chart on the average conception date was interesting because it shows approximately the 14th as the best date. PA recently did a study and came up with the same dates. So with that said, does that mean the Moon really has nothing to do with it?
12-05-2008, 11:06 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
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Oct 13th 2007 I watch Mr. Mass tend a doe in a bean field. He never left her, she moved over, he moved over.
Oct 13th 2007 I watch Mr. Mass tend a doe in a bean field. He never left her, she moved over, he moved over.
12-05-2008, 11:17 AM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
Gimme a break.
Your like that old guy who thinks he knows everything and talks about how his generation was the greatest all the time.
Your generation probably wrote it.
And the mother nature part.. thats called common sense.
ORIGINAL: davidmil
But when we get into magazines and deadlines and trying to become the next great shocking writer...... just because we read it doesn't make it so or of enough significance to matter.
ORIGINAL: dukemichaels
It is a biological fact that whitetail does come into their first "false" estrous cycle about a month (or more sometimes) before the real one.. so to speak.
Not to mention mother natures plan to stagger newborns over several weeks or months to ensure survival of the species.
What can I say.. I read alot.
It is a biological fact that whitetail does come into their first "false" estrous cycle about a month (or more sometimes) before the real one.. so to speak.
Not to mention mother natures plan to stagger newborns over several weeks or months to ensure survival of the species.
What can I say.. I read alot.
Your like that old guy who thinks he knows everything and talks about how his generation was the greatest all the time.
Your generation probably wrote it.
And the mother nature part.. thats called common sense.
guy who thinks he knows everything and talks
12-05-2008, 02:01 PM
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RE: October's Mini-Rut!!??
Certainly it's possible for a small number of does to come into heat early, in fact mid October is really only a couple weeks away from prime time, so it's not that surprising.IMO - Generally the big buck appearances are rare that timeof year, but I suppose if they came across a hot doe..........
I agree that humans are largely responsible for any lulls in movement. Deer aren't nocternal by nature, humans have really made them that way.
As I like to say - you never know when and where lightning is going to strike...
I agree that humans are largely responsible for any lulls in movement. Deer aren't nocternal by nature, humans have really made them that way.
As I like to say - you never know when and where lightning is going to strike...