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Old 12-04-2008 | 10:35 AM
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You want to see some disrespect, watch how alot of Amish or Mennonites work their horses and mules. They treat their animals as tools, and they use em until they die.
I guess all Americans and other folks alike were disrespectful to animals until the machines came along then, eh?
I hunt where a lot of Amish live and have noticed that they are very expert horsemen. I never got the feeling that they didn't respect their animals. Although, I don't know what goes on with them at all times.
We have a lot of Amish down our way too and although they use their animals hard, the treat them well in return. HOWEVER, when the Amish hunt...its another game. They go in with a group, drive the woods and shoot whatever they see. Okay, that's fine because I know to them its meat on the table, nothing more and part of what gets them through hard times. But, what I don't like and have personally seen is that if they shoot a deer and don't see if fall or come across it in their walking drive line...they will not look for it. In our early ML season one young Amish boy shot at a nice buck and when I questioned him about it and if he had hit it he said "no". I asked how he knew and his answer was "It did not look hit". I ask him if he had bothered to check for blood or hair and he said "no, it did not look hit".
Okay, this is not a thread on the Amish so I'll bow out, but as much as I respect the Amish, the behavior they display over hunting is disrespectful.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 11:03 AM
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When does one cross the line into the “creepy” realm? Some of the posts on here seem to put a deer so high up on a pedestal, I don’t know HOW the person who feels that way could bring themselves to actually killing it.

It’s one thing to strive to make a clean kill and put forth the effort to find a wounded animal…but this whole “honoring” and “respect” thing can get carried too far at times. It’s a dang deer people. It’s not a person, it’s not some magical creature. It’s a deer. All it knows is to eat, drink, breed & survive.

The deer doesn’t care which weapon killed it, its still dead either way. The deer doesn’t care if its head goes on a wall or the rack is pitched in a pile with 47 others. It doesn’t care if the person who shot it feels bad for doing so, or if they jump up and down like they scored the game winning touchdown in the super bowl.

WE seem to assign worth and value of what should happen after killing a deer. Why?

So in the spirit of long debatable threads…what say you?

I gotta give you credit, I ask myself the same question sometimes.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 11:13 AM
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When does one cross the line into the “creepy” realm? Some of the posts on here seem to put a deer so high up on a pedestal, I don’t know HOW the person who feels that way could bring themselves to actually killing it.

It’s one thing to strive to make a clean kill and put forth the effort to find a wounded animal…but this whole “honoring” and “respect” thing can get carried too far at times. It’s a dang deer people. It’s not a person, it’s not some magical creature. It’s a deer. All it knows is to eat, drink, breed & survive.

The deer doesn’t care which weapon killed it, its still dead either way. The deer doesn’t care if its head goes on a wall or the rack is pitched in a pile with 47 others. It doesn’t care if the person who shot it feels bad for doing so, or if they jump up and down like they scored the game winning touchdown in the super bowl.

WE seem to assign worth and value of what should happen after killing a deer. Why?

So in the spirit of long debatable threads…what say you?
Won't find a debate from me!
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Old 12-04-2008 | 11:17 AM
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When it all boils down to it, the deer is dead, and they dont care how they died or what happens afterwards. I dont think they care, honesty, myself, I wouldnt either. When I die I will loose the ability to care im sure so whatever happens happens, deer have even less of an understanding than that. All it is, is lights out for them, and thats all.

Really the only reason we take "quality" pictures is to please ourselves and others, not the deer, deer dont care. Same with mouting them, and even eatting them. I highly doubt they worry about what happens when they die, they dont even know what death is.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 11:17 AM
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I respect any deer or animal that I've shot big or small and give It It's due. The pictures show It. It's how I am.
Well said Schultzy!
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Old 12-04-2008 | 11:19 AM
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Sure I respect deer but do I respect them like a veteran or dear old dad not a chance.After I sit for a few minuteswith the fallen beast I take him home and eat him. I want to do the right thing but sometimes we look at things to deeply here.

Every hunt doesn't have to bring out some bigmoral dilema. It's just hunting. The woods are not green and brown but rather black and grey.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 12:05 PM
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I've said the same thing for a long time and have been slammed for even suggesting we just killed the thing and now we're going to eat it. Christine, can I stop by for supper. I see someone else likes to occcasionally mix it up country fried. Do you ever do that and then smoother it in gravy?
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Old 12-04-2008 | 12:07 PM
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It's all about moderation.

For those of you who say it's just a deer, a dead animal carcass...do you go up and kick it and laugh afterwards? No, because it is disrespectful.

For those of you who say it's disrespectful to throw it in a truck bed, or overa hood...why? Do you make it a casket like bigcountry said and give it a proper burial? No because that too is weird and creepy.

A deer is far more than a chunk of meat but far less than a fellow man. I agree 100% that today's society seems to place animals as equals to us humans, which is absurd.



My stance, Im in the middle of the road. I clean the deer up for a nice hero shot, just for my personal photos and memories...it is more tasteful than a bloodbath garage pic, to me anyway. I don't view the animal as anything more than what it is, a surviving creature. It is an animal, not to be confused with a human with a soul, an animal. I won't abuse one or disrespect a dead deer I've killed either though.


I have to agree though Rybo, some guys are just creepy with how much they revere and worship these animals.
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Old 12-04-2008 | 12:19 PM
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It's all about moderation.
The ancient eastern philosophers would agree TEmbry.

As far as respecting a whitetail. I absolutely respect them.. that's why I eat them. That and they taste good.

I take only what I can eat.. and no more. If thats not respect I don't know what is.

Whats this thread about anyway?
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Old 12-04-2008 | 12:27 PM
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Just for clarification.What I meant by throwing it in to a pick up truck bed had to do with filth.Nothing else.I would expect that most of us intend to eat what we kill.I am not going to put the body of a deer on top on engine grease,household garbage and other like things.
I am fine with the balance that I believe I have with the respect that I have for deer and how I care for the meat after the kill.
With things being typed here it is impossible to tell the tone or intent of some one's message.The animal get's it due from me nothing more,nothing less!

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