23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
12-04-2008, 11:40 AM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
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David:
By your definition....Matt/PA's '07buck was a lost deer....and not a recovered, bowkilled animal.
Right?
David:
By your definition....Matt/PA's '07buck was a lost deer....and not a recovered, bowkilled animal.
Right?
12-04-2008, 11:46 AM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
The gentelman that buchered the deer keept it himself. He saw what the legs looked like when he cut it up and I also told him the story, so that was his choice to keep it not mine.
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The story, recoverey or non is irrelevant to me.
You should not have donated the meat however. The only way for the deer to die from an infection in the leg, is to first develop septicemia. That is a seeding of the blood stream with bacteria from the leg wound. When this happens the infection spreads to the brain and major organs causing a type of shock that kills the animal. The same bacteria would have also seeded the muscle tissue and this animal is not fit for human consumption.
The story, recoverey or non is irrelevant to me.
You should not have donated the meat however. The only way for the deer to die from an infection in the leg, is to first develop septicemia. That is a seeding of the blood stream with bacteria from the leg wound. When this happens the infection spreads to the brain and major organs causing a type of shock that kills the animal. The same bacteria would have also seeded the muscle tissue and this animal is not fit for human consumption.
12-04-2008, 11:52 AM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
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He couldn't eat it.
If I can't eat it, it's a lost animal.
12-04-2008, 11:55 AM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
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David:
By your definition....Matt/PA's '07buck was a lost deer....and not a recovered, bowkilled animal.
Right?
I found a deer I killed....weeks later....yet I never tried to "annoint myself" (nor did anyone else....and it's still in the forum for all to see....the thread)anything. I felt remorse when I lost him....and "joy" is not the emotion I would use to describewhen I found him. I found it "interesting" and I found it added closure to the mystery. I took NO pictures "I can be proud of".
I don't find your comments negative....except in the sense they're inflammatory and disrespectful to the people this has happened to. If you think I could have done something differently to assure a more speedy recovery of my buck....I'm all ears (seriously).
David:
By your definition....Matt/PA's '07buck was a lost deer....and not a recovered, bowkilled animal.
Right?
I don't think I was necessarily slamming the hunter as much as the folks who want to say congrats on a great bow kill ... when it wasn't. When I mentioned the factI was slammed for being negative. Icall it being truthful. You the hunter just got caught in the middle of it. I'm sure you felt bad, but that was never discussed.Instead you posed with weapon and a tidy little "Picture you can be proud of". It just didn't ring right is all. This is not the first thread where someone has shot a deer, found it weeks later and everyone wants to annoit them as a great hunter who stuck to it until there was a conclusion. I don't see it that way, never have and never will. If I can't eat it, it's a lost animal. Hell, I've been jumped on harder for a shots some thought unethical that killed deer dead. I've been jumped on for being "disrespectful to the animal" I just killed because I didn't take a pretty picture. It depends what group you're associated with I guess. Some can do no wrong while others are only negative. Hmmm...
I don't find your comments negative....except in the sense they're inflammatory and disrespectful to the people this has happened to. If you think I could have done something differently to assure a more speedy recovery of my buck....I'm all ears (seriously).
Why couldn't Matt eat the deer?
12-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
I never (nor did I hear anyone profess) said anythng about mine being a "successful hunt". The bar keeps moving with every post, it seems.
Matt's buck was recovered days after he shot it.....and the meat was not edible.
Greatest story in determination I've ever read, though (regarding a recovery).
My conversation with my GW lasted about ten minutes. After a while Chris just stopped and flat out asked me....
"Jeff....did you kill that deer"? "I mean....if I put you on the stand and asked you if in your heart you killed him....what would you say"?
I tagged the deer. I wouldn't pass judgement on someone else if they didn't. These situations are all different....and they all carry with them extenuating criteria. There is no set protocol....which I learned in this.
"I" followed my heart and my head. I tagged an animal I feel confident died at my hands.
No annointing. No hero photos. No bragging. No spent tags, unwarranted. I just couldn't shoot another one and feel right about it.
Matt's buck was recovered days after he shot it.....and the meat was not edible.
Greatest story in determination I've ever read, though (regarding a recovery).
My conversation with my GW lasted about ten minutes. After a while Chris just stopped and flat out asked me....
"Jeff....did you kill that deer"? "I mean....if I put you on the stand and asked you if in your heart you killed him....what would you say"?
I tagged the deer. I wouldn't pass judgement on someone else if they didn't. These situations are all different....and they all carry with them extenuating criteria. There is no set protocol....which I learned in this.
"I" followed my heart and my head. I tagged an animal I feel confident died at my hands.
No annointing. No hero photos. No bragging. No spent tags, unwarranted. I just couldn't shoot another one and feel right about it.
12-04-2008, 12:07 PM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
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I never (nor did I hear anyone profess) said anythng about mine being a "successful hunt". The bar keeps moving with every post, it seems.
Matt's buck was recovered days after he shot it.....and the meat was not edible.
Greatest story in determination I've ever read, though (regarding a recovery).
My conversation with my GW lasted about ten minutes. After a while Chris just stopped and flat out asked me....
"Jeff....did you kill that deer"? "I mean....if I put you on the stand and asked you if in your heart you killed him....what would you say"?
I tagged the deer. I wouldn't pass judgement on someone else if they didn't. These situations are all different....and they all carry with them extenuating criteria. There is no set protocol....which I learned in this.
"I" followed my heart and my head. I tagged an animal I feel confident died at my hands.
No annointing. No hero photos. No bragging. No spent tags, unwarranted. I just couldn't shoot another one and feel right about it.
I never (nor did I hear anyone profess) said anythng about mine being a "successful hunt". The bar keeps moving with every post, it seems.
Matt's buck was recovered days after he shot it.....and the meat was not edible.
Greatest story in determination I've ever read, though (regarding a recovery).
My conversation with my GW lasted about ten minutes. After a while Chris just stopped and flat out asked me....
"Jeff....did you kill that deer"? "I mean....if I put you on the stand and asked you if in your heart you killed him....what would you say"?
I tagged the deer. I wouldn't pass judgement on someone else if they didn't. These situations are all different....and they all carry with them extenuating criteria. There is no set protocol....which I learned in this.
"I" followed my heart and my head. I tagged an animal I feel confident died at my hands.
No annointing. No hero photos. No bragging. No spent tags, unwarranted. I just couldn't shoot another one and feel right about it.
12-04-2008, 12:09 PM
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RE: 23 Days Later A Delaware Buck Story
We don't have to agree, David....and I do respect your view on this.
Don...I'm not carrying on. I might learn something (more) from David. I learned something last year through discussions like this. I learned that death by my arrow might not be the greatest comfort for a deer with a broken leg.
Don...I'm not carrying on. I might learn something (more) from David. I learned something last year through discussions like this. I learned that death by my arrow might not be the greatest comfort for a deer with a broken leg.