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Old 11-26-2008 | 06:58 PM
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I have no idea what you're talking about, Jim. You sound like a drunk, though.

Your inferences are pretty pathetic, though. I asked a fair question.

Have another!
Maybe your above post will bring light to your eyes. maybe not?

Back when I said my taxi (who's nationally recognized/decorated) had aged my two bucks via this method.....you seemingly scoffed at the practice and questioned its accuracy.


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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:06 PM
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What's not fair about the question. Less than a year ago...Greg thought the method was a "guess" at best. I wondered what's changed his mind.

How much fairer can that be? I'd like to know the answer.....or I wouldn't have asked the question.

I see you didn't miss a chance to belittle, though. Happens, interestingly enough, about every time I post.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:15 PM
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My god Jeff you have been aging deer by eye sight for your threeyear expert careerer.

The rest of us are just guessing.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:28 PM
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Less than a year ago...Greg thought the method was a "guess" at best. I wondered what's changed his mind.
While these are my best guesstimates, I'm going to look into sending in the teeth for a X-section analysis.
This does not imply that we are 100% accurate
As I said before, it is a best guess based on our years of experience with the deer in this area
We feel that we are within a year of our guesstimates
Does this sound like I changed my mind!!??

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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:30 PM
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Fair enough. But you do seem to be giving it a good amount of merit.....which I'm happy to see.

Thanks.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:37 PM
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I guess between You and Greg you have enough notes on big mature bucks racks and jaw bonesthat a weekendofcomparing noteswould help us novices out.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:45 PM
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Thanks for the informational first page...

Ifyou do get them aged by a biologist, I'd also like to know the outcome. I'm studying to be a biologist, I find this stuff pretty interesting.

I also hope Jawshooter replies to this thread, if it doesn't get locked, to share his insight.

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Old 11-26-2008 | 07:59 PM
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I was recently reading a test trial of the tooth wear method among like 5 or 6 nationally reputable deer biologist, they averaged only about 50% accuracy in guessing jaws of known-age deer that were submitted to them for aging. Granted they were mostly off by only a year one way or another, but considering an animal that rarely sees 5+ (I believe the stat is less than 2% of all free-ranging bucks live to 5 years old) plus or minus a year is a big deal to us hunters that want an accurate age of our harvests.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 08:04 PM
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Anything beyound 5 1/2 is a guess without X-section analysis......With that said, I would say your guesstimate is pretty close, IMO.
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Old 11-26-2008 | 08:32 PM
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I have a hard time believing anything I hear from biologist when it comes to aging animals. I know for a fact they can't age a bear to save there ass's! I've sent many teeth In to the University of Minnesota for the biologist to age and some of the results I get back are mind blowing and complete BS!! I think a biologist's biggest problem In aging anything Is not seeing the deer/animal that there aging In whole. Teeth don't always tell that animals story but what do I know I'm just another armchair biologist!!

Greg, It wouldn't surprise me if your damn close on what you think your buck ages. You know the deer In that area better then anyone else.
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