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AF Hunter 11-17-2008 07:50 AM

Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Friggin neighbors dog comes bounding up and chases the buck away. Didn't have a shot at either. I'm fed up!!! I called him and left a message "Your dog just cost me a buck, take care of it." He called back and said "They were tied up when I left and you getting stupid about it doesn't help." He went on to say that he's doing everything he can. I've had enough and I think some dogs are going to come up missing. I don't want to have the pet pay for the owners ignorance, but I'm not left with a lot of options here.

twildasin 11-17-2008 07:57 AM

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Man its not the dogs fault! Call the authorities and have him fined!

StrikeTrue 11-17-2008 07:59 AM

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The same thing happens to me on a regular basis and ive tried to deal with the owner of the dogs as well. Apparently he doesnt care because he keeps walking through the adjoining woods during my hunts and letting his dogs roam over to where i have permission. Only thing that gives me relief is that i regularly see deer after he comes through so i try and just take my lumps. On the other hand, if one chased a deer away on me, things would be different.

AF Hunter 11-17-2008 08:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: twildasin

Man its not the dogs fault! Call the authorities and have him fined!
Unfortunately, in the country, the authorities say there is nothing they can do because there isn't a code or ordanance against letting your dogs roam free.

IAhuntr 11-17-2008 08:21 AM

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How hard is it to tie a dog up? You always hear the same stupid responses from these guys: "They were tied up but must havegot loose". BS! Unless you're a moron or are using yarn for a lead, the dog didn't just get loose. He left him run free. You've given him fair chance to control his animal, time to take matters in your own hands imho.

mossberghunter93 11-17-2008 08:56 AM

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that is the story of my life[:o]

Jimimac 11-17-2008 10:09 AM

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Two wrongs don't make a right. This situation is unfortunate, but you taking out the neighbors dog isn't cool either.

gutshot 11-17-2008 11:50 AM

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Whack'em

StruttinGobbler3 11-17-2008 11:52 AM

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thwack! :D

AF Hunter 11-18-2008 12:16 PM

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That lab destroyed another hunt this morning. Another neighbor offered the lab's owner to hold onto the dogs until after deer season and he declined. All bets are off.

YooperMike 11-18-2008 12:26 PM

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Sorry to say AF, but I think you know what to do at this point. I can't imagine the level of frustration you are dealing with right now. Sorry man.

Washington Hunter 11-18-2008 12:30 PM

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If my dog somehow got loose and you shot him, I would be going to jail.

Granted the owner should chain it up better or keep it inside while not at home, it isn't the dog's fault.



my7pointmonster 11-18-2008 12:30 PM

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buy a harness for the dogs and get a wire go up to the dog Put the harness on pound the steak in the ground right infront of the guy hook the dog to it yourself and go hunting if the dog "breaks loose" shoot it.

Ryan.

Nubby_Stalker 11-18-2008 12:38 PM

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Iowa does have a law called "Disruption of hunting pleasure", mainly aimed at anti's and niebours who try to keep the deer in your woods from comming around.....if you can prove that the dogs are his and that the constantly come in the woods and such, nail him...its a $250 fine.

Secondly, are the dogs comming on the property you hunt and does he own it??...if not they can be considered feral and can be shot on site if chasing game animals.

AF Hunter 11-18-2008 12:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Nubby_Stalker

Iowa does have a law called "Disruption of hunting pleasure", mainly aimed at anti's and niebours who try to keep the deer in your woods from comming around.....if you can prove that the dogs are his and that the constantly come in the woods and such, nail him...its a $250 fine.

Secondly, are the dogs comming on the property you hunt and does he own it??...if not they can be considered feral and can be shot on site if chasing game animals.
I own the land I am hunting on and his dogs come over here and run the deer. I'll have to check into that "Disruption of hunting pleasure" law. If I can find the code, I'll press charges against him. He is my garbage collector and the only one in this area...By the time I get done, I'll have free garbage pickup for the rest of my life!

WV Hunter 11-18-2008 12:55 PM

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No way I could shoot someone's pet. Owner ignorance or not.

My buddy had this issue 2yrs ago....dang near everytime he went out. Finally, he got down and caught the dog and called the pound to come get him.Owner got fined when he came to pick him up....and he didn't have the problem anymore. Not sure if they will do that where you are. Def pursue that other law....might work for you. Sorry to hear it, I know its frustrating.

Jasonlester 11-18-2008 03:03 PM

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Rubber blunt in the butt may stop it from chasing deer.

iowabob85 11-18-2008 03:29 PM

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Hey buddy I would not hesitate to take care of that problem if I was you... Cannot stand dogs that chase deer anyway being a coyote hunter and all......

KodiakArcher 11-18-2008 04:00 PM

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Don't know that I would've even started this post. You had to know the response it would get. You're forgetting one of the 3 S's in "shoot, shovel and shut-up". I'm just sayin'...:eek:

Planter 11-18-2008 04:10 PM

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Leash law here and never see dogs in the woods. If you do shoot his dog don't let him know as thingsmightget out of hand.

You might be in the right I really don't know but if someone shot my Brittany for whatever reason I would do something that might land me in jail. It would be like an assault on a close family member. Thump it with a blunt at 20 yards and it won't be coming back.

I am glad I'm not in your position cause my blood would be boiling too.

early in 11-18-2008 04:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: YooperMike

Sorry to say AF, but I think you know what to do at this point. I can't imagine the level of frustration you are dealing with right now. Sorry man.
Same here. Guess what? This man has been dealing with this BS for quite some time, as his post's have reflected this. Now the s%&t has hit the fan, and SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!!! Mark, no more mister nice guy! Let these dogs vanish.;)It has become obvious that the owners of these dogs don't care and are doing nothing about the situation. NowYOU have to.
I'll add one more thing in regards to this type of situation. I hunt public land. If I ever catch a dog with no tags running free in my area, which is totally against the law, he (yes the inocent dog) will indeed find out thatthe woods were a bad choice for a playground that day. That's it, plain and simple. And trust me, I don't care what kind of responses come from this post. Good or bad. I just have to be honest,if people aren't careful about keeping their dogs contained then I won't be careful about my targets while hunting.I take my deer hunting seriously, and NO MUTT is going toscrew it up for me. The end.;)

MATHEWS PA BOWHUNTER 11-18-2008 04:38 PM

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WHACK THEM AND STACK THEM (DOG THAT IS)

StrikeTrue 11-18-2008 04:54 PM

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I cant believe anyone can justify shooting the dog. End.

early in 11-18-2008 04:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: StrikeTrue

I cant believe anyone can justify shooting the dog. End.
Let's hear your answer.:eek:And it's "the end".;)

OregonOutdoorDude 11-18-2008 05:05 PM

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I'd say a rage to the tail, see what the owner thinks of a tail-less lab HAHAHAHAAH LOL

jober425 11-18-2008 05:11 PM

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I know in PA its legal to kill a dog if its in the act of attacking turkey, deer, bear or elk. Im not saying shoot the dog...but if I had a repeat offender, especially after telling the owner, that dog would be getting a chest full of muzzys.

Nubby_Stalker 11-18-2008 05:18 PM

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Hmmm....I do recant the statement about trying to lace the mutt....blunt to the mutts crotch sniffer might be all it takes...it sucks to have to break the dogs nose but hey, ...

1- the dog lives
2- hunting grounds are better
3- owner has to pay for vet bills...$$$$$
4- owner will think twice about his tie out methods

KodiakArcher 11-18-2008 05:29 PM

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Has anyone seen the devastation a blunt or even a bludgeon from a modern compound at full draw delivers, even at just 60#? I know my 70# draw w/ 500gr. arrow would drive a blunt clean through a dog if hit in the chest and break some serious bones otherwise. With them on a flu-flu they drive half way through a bag target. That borders on cruel and inhumane.

jober425 11-18-2008 06:07 PM

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I totally agree with Kodiak here. If your going to pull the trigger on something you better have the intention of killing it.

early in 11-18-2008 06:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: jober425

I know in PA its legal to kill a dog if its in the act of attacking turkey, deer, bear or elk. Im not saying shoot the dog...but if I had a repeat offender, especially after telling the owner, that dog would be getting a chest full of muzzys.
You're exactly correct on this.The regs say if you shoot a dog for attackinga deer ( I consider chasing an attack) you have to notify either the owner or the PGC within 48 hours. I'd keep it simple though, and the mutt becomes buzzard bait.;)

AF Hunter 11-19-2008 05:14 AM

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I checked into the law about impeding my hunting and it does not apply to neighbor's dogs. After much soul searching, I am going to live trap the suckers and turn them in to the animal rescue league. Hopefully, a caring family will adopt them and keep them in a safe loving environment a long way away from here.

wis_bow_huntr 11-19-2008 05:41 AM

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I know in Wi if you shoot a dog chasing deer youre in big big trouble, unless its a yote.

Nubby_Stalker 11-19-2008 12:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: wis_bow_huntr

I know in Wi if you shoot a dog chasing deer youre in big big trouble, unless its a yote.
Then it's a coy dog in my woods...and we have a few of those here.....ok, had;)

Coy Dog = domestic dog running with coyotes / wolves

I give you credit AF, you show true sportsmanship with this last post.....you're a good man.

Dopler 11-19-2008 01:13 PM

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Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.

early in 11-19-2008 01:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
Let me ask you a question. Whatis the difference if someone's pit bull, instead of a gentle lab,gets loose and kills a child (God forbid)instead of a deer? For starters, the first thing that will take place is that dog will be put down for his actions. There's no question about that. Why? The dog was only doing what has been bred into him to do.Now, if the owners of said dog can be located they will be held legally responsible for what took place. But, at this point the damage has been done.[&o]Do you see the direction I'm going? Dogs MUST be contained, and if enough forethought goes into it theyWILL be contained, and not getting loose. That's if the owners care enough about their pets!

HuntinGUS 11-19-2008 01:45 PM

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I always like the people who say.....if someone killed my dog, I'd be going to jail!.......pfffft. It's a damn dog and if it so special.........chain the stupid thing up during hunting season.......problem solved.


You are going to more trouble than I would by live trapping them. Kudos to you.

LKNCHOPPERS 11-19-2008 02:04 PM

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There are way too many dogs allowed to roam free and chase deer. If you are not a responsible owner and can't keep them on your property you deserve to loose your dog. Sorry I'm no dog lover, had way too many hunts screwed up by neighbors dogs. There should be zero tolerance here. They are dogs not people.

SouthDakotaHunter 11-19-2008 02:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
I agree... Some of the comments/replies are out of control....

OregonOutdoorDude 11-19-2008 02:58 PM

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THIS CASE IS CLOSED, VERDICT IS SENTENCING DOGS TO DEATH. ;)


My dogs have run and got into other peoples garbage before, they warned me, I locked the dogs up. If you've had a one on one talk about it with them, they still don't do anything,then kill'em and don't say a word to anyone around you or here.

Simp 11-19-2008 03:10 PM

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If, after repeated warnings, the owner doesn't "get it", the dog certainly would. I'm a cat man myself. Ya ever see how those little buggers spin around and flip? Now you know I'm just kidding.;)


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