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early in 11-19-2008 04:26 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: SouthDakotaHunter

ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
I agree... Some of the comments/replies are out of control....
Read my last post on this subject, and let me hear your answer.:eek:

Dopler 11-19-2008 05:33 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
Let me ask you a question. Whatis the difference if someone's pit bull, instead of a gentle lab,gets loose and kills a child (God forbid)instead of a deer? For starters, the first thing that will take place is that dog will be put down for his actions. There's no question about that. Why? The dog was only doing what has been bred into him to do.Now, if the owners of said dog can be located they will be held legally responsible for what took place. But, at this point the damage has been done.[&o]Do you see the direction I'm going? Dogs MUST be contained, and if enough forethought goes into it theyWILL be contained, and not getting loose. That's if the owners care enough about their pets!
Ok, here is my repy. This is not a pit bull so your point is invalid, it's a lab which are one of the mostloyal and friendly breeds of dogs period. What AF is doing is the right thing to do--take it to the pound and hopefully it has the chance of being adopted by a caring family. To bust it with an arrow is inhumane, it's not the dogs fault, the dog can't help it that it's got irresponsible owners.

For the rest of you who don't see this point of view then I'd say to you heartless SOB's thatone of your chinseyRage broadheads one shot wonder broadheadscosts $13.00 a pop.;)

AF Hunter 11-19-2008 05:57 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Let's not get into name calling amongst ourselves. I have seriously considered ending the lab's running about with a Shuttle T-Lock, but have held back. I am seriously torqued that so many of my hunts have been disrupted by dogs and coyotes. The main reason I have held back is I don't want to be sued. Secondary reason is it is not the dogs' fault its the irresponsible owner that is at fault.

bawanajim 11-19-2008 06:08 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Mark, take some food, catch the dog, and make him your friend, the dogs owner like many here is an ass. The dog is doing what dogs do. The owner doesn't care so why not treat the dog right and have the most loyal friend you might ever have.
If you can't keep him or don't want to, I'm sure you can find some one that does.

They are called mans best friend for a reason.

early in 11-19-2008 06:20 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: Dopler

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
Let me ask you a question. Whatis the difference if someone's pit bull, instead of a gentle lab,gets loose and kills a child (God forbid)instead of a deer? For starters, the first thing that will take place is that dog will be put down for his actions. There's no question about that. Why? The dog was only doing what has been bred into him to do.Now, if the owners of said dog can be located they will be held legally responsible for what took place. But, at this point the damage has been done.[&o]Do you see the direction I'm going? Dogs MUST be contained, and if enough forethought goes into it theyWILL be contained, and not getting loose. That's if the owners care enough about their pets!
Ok, here is my repy. This is not a pit bull so your point is invalid, it's a lab which are one of the mostloyal and friendly breeds of dogs period. What AF is doing is the right thing to do--take it to the pound and hopefully it has the chance of being adopted by a caring family. To bust it with an arrow is inhumane, it's not the dogs fault, the dog can't help it that it's got irresponsible owners.

For the rest of you who don't see this point of view then I'd say to you heartless SOB's thatone of your chinseyRage broadheads one shot wonder broadheadscosts $13.00 a pop.;)
No in this case it isn't a pit bull, german shepard, husky or what ever, but it could just as easily have been. Get real! What, every dog running the woods can be caught and taken to the pound? You're living in a dream world. Responsible pet owners take the nesessary steps to make SURE their dogs don't get loose and chase deer around the woods. Like I said, and it's LEGAL in Pa, if I see one (without tags) on public land chasing a deer it catches an arrow!

Nubby_Stalker 11-19-2008 07:07 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Can we lock this topic...its bring out the woorst in some of us...we all made our views nown so let it die.....no pun intended.

AF Hunter 11-19-2008 07:33 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: Nubby_Stalker

Can we lock this topic...its bring out the woorst in some of us...we all made our views nown so let it die.....no pun intended.
Oh sure, I finally get a thread that goes past two posts and you want to lock it?!?:D

early in 11-19-2008 07:36 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: AF Hunter

ORIGINAL: Nubby_Stalker

Can we lock this topic...its bring out the woorst in some of us...we all made our views nown so let it die.....no pun intended.
Oh sure, I finally get a thread that goes past two posts and you want to lock it?!?:D
Mark, that was good!:D:D:D Nobody can take this from you after all you've been through!;)

Nubby_Stalker 11-19-2008 07:39 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Fine then...

CALL OUT THE NINJA MONKEYS AND LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN...MUHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

bawanajim 11-19-2008 07:46 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
Let me ask you a question. Whatis the difference if someone's pit bull, instead of a gentle lab,gets loose and kills a child (God forbid)instead of a deer? For starters, the first thing that will take place is that dog will be put down for his actions. There's no question about that. Why? The dog was only doing what has been bred into him to do.Now, if the owners of said dog can be located they will be held legally responsible for what took place. But, at this point the damage has been done.[&o]Do you see the direction I'm going? Dogs MUST be contained, and if enough forethought goes into it theyWILL be contained, and not getting loose. That's if the owners care enough about their pets!
Ok, here is my repy. This is not a pit bull so your point is invalid, it's a lab which are one of the mostloyal and friendly breeds of dogs period. What AF is doing is the right thing to do--take it to the pound and hopefully it has the chance of being adopted by a caring family. To bust it with an arrow is inhumane, it's not the dogs fault, the dog can't help it that it's got irresponsible owners.

For the rest of you who don't see this point of view then I'd say to you heartless SOB's thatone of your chinseyRage broadheads one shot wonder broadheadscosts $13.00 a pop.;)
No in this case it isn't a pit bull, german shepard, husky or what ever, but it could just as easily have been. Get real! What, every dog running the woods can be caught and taken to the pound? You're living in a dream world. Responsible pet owners take the nesessary steps to make SURE their dogs don't get loose and chase deer around the woods. Like I said, and it's LEGAL in Pa, if I see one (without tags) on public land chasing a deer it catches an arrow!
You are wrong, and you know your wrong. We are not not talking child killers, upseting ,yes but if thats what's making you beat your wife, your out of line. Get over it . Remember you are not alone on "public land" I have meet your kindwhile grouse hunting on our public ground.

early in 11-19-2008 07:54 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: bawanajim

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
Let me ask you a question. Whatis the difference if someone's pit bull, instead of a gentle lab,gets loose and kills a child (God forbid)instead of a deer? For starters, the first thing that will take place is that dog will be put down for his actions. There's no question about that. Why? The dog was only doing what has been bred into him to do.Now, if the owners of said dog can be located they will be held legally responsible for what took place. But, at this point the damage has been done.[&o]Do you see the direction I'm going? Dogs MUST be contained, and if enough forethought goes into it theyWILL be contained, and not getting loose. That's if the owners care enough about their pets!
Ok, here is my repy. This is not a pit bull so your point is invalid, it's a lab which are one of the mostloyal and friendly breeds of dogs period. What AF is doing is the right thing to do--take it to the pound and hopefully it has the chance of being adopted by a caring family. To bust it with an arrow is inhumane, it's not the dogs fault, the dog can't help it that it's got irresponsible owners.

For the rest of you who don't see this point of view then I'd say to you heartless SOB's thatone of your chinseyRage broadheads one shot wonder broadheadscosts $13.00 a pop.;)
No in this case it isn't a pit bull, german shepard, husky or what ever, but it could just as easily have been. Get real! What, every dog running the woods can be caught and taken to the pound? You're living in a dream world. Responsible pet owners take the nesessary steps to make SURE their dogs don't get loose and chase deer around the woods. Like I said, and it's LEGAL in Pa, if I see one (without tags) on public land chasing a deer it catches an arrow!
You are wrong, and you know your wrong. We are not not talking child killers, upseting ,yes but if thats what's making you beat your wife, your out of line. Get over it . Remember you are not alone on "public land" I have meet your kindwhile grouse hunting on our public ground.
Listen up pal (I use that word loosly). First of all, you have no idea of what type of dog you're dealing with if it isn't yours. You have no clue howstupid that statement sounded. Second, you've never met someone like me because someone like me wouldn't keep companywith the uneducatedlikes of you. Trust me.;):D

StruttinGobbler3 11-19-2008 07:59 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
You know fellas I can just feel the love and friendship radiating throughout this thread....:D:D:DBoy I'm glad we don't argue like crazy amongst ourselves

early in 11-19-2008 08:03 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: StruttinGobbler3

You know fellas I can just feel the love and friendship radiating throughout this thread....:D:D:DBoy I'm glad we don't argue like crazy amongst ourselves
That's why I was thinking a team hug would have been kind of like taking a "chill pill" until someone called me gay for it.:D:D:D:D:D

bawanajim 11-19-2008 08:07 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

ORIGINAL: early in

ORIGINAL: Dopler

Perfect solution AF.For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
Let me ask you a question. Whatis the difference if someone's pit bull, instead of a gentle lab,gets loose and kills a child (God forbid)instead of a deer? For starters, the first thing that will take place is that dog will be put down for his actions. There's no question about that. Why? The dog was only doing what has been bred into him to do.Now, if the owners of said dog can be located they will be held legally responsible for what took place. But, at this point the damage has been done.[&o]Do you see the direction I'm going? Dogs MUST be contained, and if enough forethought goes into it theyWILL be contained, and not getting loose. That's if the owners care enough about their pets!
Ok, here is my repy. This is not a pit bull so your point is invalid, it's a lab which are one of the mostloyal and friendly breeds of dogs period. What AF is doing is the right thing to do--take it to the pound and hopefully it has the chance of being adopted by a caring family. To bust it with an arrow is inhumane, it's not the dogs fault, the dog can't help it that it's got irresponsible owners.

For the rest of you who don't see this point of view then I'd say to you heartless SOB's thatone of your chinseyRage broadheads one shot wonder broadheadscosts $13.00 a pop.;)
No in this case it isn't a pit bull, german shepard, husky or what ever, but it could just as easily have been. Get real! What, every dog running the woods can be caught and taken to the pound? You're living in a dream world. Responsible pet owners take the nesessary steps to make SURE their dogs don't get loose and chase deer around the woods. Like I said, and it's LEGAL in Pa, if I see one (without tags) on public land chasing a deer it catches an arrow!
You are wrong, and you know your wrong. We are not not talking child killers, upseting ,yes but if thats what's making you beat your wife, your out of line. Get over it . Remember you are not alone on "public land" I have meet your kindwhile grouse hunting on our public ground.
Listen up pal (I use that word loosly). First of all, you have no idea of what type of dog you're dealing with if it isn't yours. You have no clue howstupid that statement sounded. Second, you've never met someone like me because someone like me wouldn't keep companywith the uneducatedlikes of you. Trust me.;):D
Your'll more than welcome to stop by, we'll fetch up enugh sweet tea to comfert you and the yougem'sfor dinner,Im sure yuall tender up just fine.

Schultzy 11-19-2008 08:20 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Perfect solution AF. For the guys that kept saying shoot the dog, what kind of people are you?

Do you know how horrible it would be to shoot a lab, it would be yelping and biting the arrow. It's not the dogs fault. Have some humanity for goodness sake people, shooting man's best friend is not the solution, it's not like these are wild dogs, they are peoples pets.
I'm a dog lover through and through!! I cry my head off when I have to put one of my dogs down If he's In bad health. I'm the one that puts my dog out of It's misery, no one else!! It's one of the hardest things I've had to do but no one else Is taking the life of my dog but me. In saying what I just said, have a read on what else Is coming.

In my area about 10 years or so ago dogs were every where running and chasing. It was getting to the point where we were having dog packs around. Ever been around one? Trust me you don't want to, your a dead man If your not careful! I would come home and I would have 4 to 5 dogs down by my barn ripping through the rabbit cages trying to get our rabbits that we raise for food. You couldn't get close to them dogs. The sheriff got the call and so did the warden, nobody seemed to care. I had no clue who owned any of these dogs nor did I care being they were all teeth. They ended up leaving without me shooting them. I told myself the next time they come back they won't be leaving. Guess what happened!

A few years later I was hunting In my dads woods bowhunting. I ran Into 3 dogs- Rot, Lab, Chessy. The Rot gave me hell right away showing teeth and all. I avoided him and the rest of them and walked way around them to my deer stand. Every morning and night when I was walking In the dark i was scared ****less of these 3 dogs. A few of them mornings and nights I heard one of them growl a good 30 yards away from me. I thought to myself, this Is fricking crazy!! I'm hunting my own land (dads land) and I'm terrified as hell when I'm out here! I knew who the owners were of 2 of the dogs, the other I had no clue on. The sheriff was called again and he told the owners to chain there dogs up. Guess what, that lasted about 2 weeks and they were right back out there but this time they had 2 more dogs with them. My dad and I had enough and we took care of the problem ourselves. If you get enough running dogs together and they stick with each other for a while It's damn scary. Timberwolves will run from you when they see you In packs, these guys won't, I know! To all the people out there, If you really love your dogs as much as I do chain the SOB's up so It's never going to be a problem. Chances are If someone see's your dog 2 to 3 times there not going to shoot It. If they see It more then that, you never know then. It's up to you! I love my dogs to death, there In a kennel when I'm not home or outside. We have way to many strays around and that's why there kenneled even If I'm home when I'm In the house relaxing. It's pretty easy for your dog to head out off with another dog If he comes In to your yard. I eliminate any chance of my dog getting shot by someone. I wish others would do the same being It Isn't the dogs fault. This discussion would not me getting had otherwise.

early in 11-19-2008 08:55 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Let me clear the air a little bit here so folks don't get the wrong idea. I love dogs as much as the next person, honestly. I would not be happy at all about shooting one with my bow. The thing is this. Where I hunt there aren't any homes nearby, and any dog running through my woods chasing deer would likely have bad intentions. I don't thinkmost of themchase deer to play with them.I love deerat least as much as dogs. They don't need the likes of a stray dog or even someone's pet dogbiting at them with no real defense. When a dog gets a hold of a deer it's an ugly scene! And I believe most would agree with this. I can't imagine getting eaten alive!
I realize that the dog isn'tusually to blame for being in the woods most of the time. He was given the chance to be there by an irresponsible owner. In some cases though, these are wild dogs that can't be distinguished from somebody's pet. Perhaps a dog that ran away and became wild. But, I believe that ashunterswe owe it to them to keep dogs from running them. A dog will chase a deer until it becomes too weak to keep going. That's not fair. Like I said before, in Pa, if they're chasing/attacking them it's legal to take them out. Catching and relocating them isn't a realistic solution in most cases though. This is my position on this issue. Nobody has to agree, but it is what it is. I offer no apology for it. I will comment no longer on this subject. Going back and forth on this is futile.Thanks.

Dubbya 11-19-2008 10:05 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
Doesn't sound like a dog to me... sounds like a funny looking Coyote;):D

Squeak, squeak, squeak... Thwack.

Pets are just that, pets. As described by dictionary.com:

noun, adjective, verb, pet⋅ted, pet⋅ting. –noun 1. any domesticated or tamed animal that is kept as a companion and cared for affectionately.

If it's domesticated or tamed, it's not a "wild" animal, it doesn't run free wherever it wants to. If it's fed and watered it's a pet, if it chases prey animal for survival needs, it isn't a pet. I don't recommend going around shooting every dog you see, but there has to be a line somewhere.

TEmbry 11-19-2008 10:19 PM
RE: Heavy B Coming In And....
 
ORIGINAL: Dubbya

Doesn't sound like a dog to me... sounds like a funny looking Coyote;):D

Squeak, squeak, squeak... Thwack.

Pets are just that, pets. As described by dictionary.com:

noun, adjective, verb, pet⋅ted, pet⋅ting. –noun 1. any domesticated or tamed animal that is kept as a companion and cared for affectionately.

If it's domesticated or tamed, it's not a "wild" animal, it doesn't run free wherever it wants to. If it's fed and watered it's a pet, if it chases prey animal for survival needs, it isn't a pet. I don't recommend going around shooting every dog you see, but there has to be a line somewhere.
a vigilante dog thumper so to speak! I personally wouldn't just because I don't think I could bring myself to do it, but doesn't say anything about the guy who does.:D[8D]

I agree with Dopler thoughEI, we all know your type...damn grouse hunters.[&:][8D]


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