Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
10-25-2008 | 07:22 PM
#61
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
ORIGINAL: TFOX
YES ROB,I pointed that out last week when it was brought up that Hoyt copied Bowtech and posted pictures of that same (IDEA)design before.So much has been done in archery over the years that being truly innovative just isn't going to happen much anymore.All these design have definately been refined and are much better than they were but to say they are new is kinda like when Mathews followers says they invented the 1 cam.
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Aint nothing new, like a bridged riser that's over 30 years old and it's shoot through too.
ORIGINAL: TFOX
The wonderfull roller cable guard that has been out for 20 something years.
Sorry,I couldn't help myself.
The wonderfull roller cable guard that has been out for 20 something years.
Sorry,I couldn't help myself.
YES ROB,I pointed that out last week when it was brought up that Hoyt copied Bowtech and posted pictures of that same (IDEA)design before.So much has been done in archery over the years that being truly innovative just isn't going to happen much anymore.All these design have definately been refined and are much better than they were but to say they are new is kinda like when Mathews followers says they invented the 1 cam.
Mikey S. That is so very, very cool. That's the first I saw that one. Man, talk about innovation, BACK THEN.....I'm thankful for all those guys today as we're seeing it all in real life action now. Master minds they were!
10-25-2008 | 07:32 PM
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Typical Buck
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From: masontown pa USA
RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
I kinda thought you'd check that one out Rob. They say history repeats itself....
Swampcollie....the .280 wasen't called the 7mm Express till 1979...I think they should of kept that name permanent though. It sounds cooler.
I think we all need to be thankful that in todays business world of company layoffs, buy outs and cutbacks, that we have multiple bow companies to bicker about. 10 years from now, there may only be 2 or 3...hopefully there will 10 more of them building even cooler toys for us to play with.
I just realized it's saturday nite and I'm playing on the internet with my face paint still on.....I'm gonna go shower and call a girl up or something....
Swampcollie....the .280 wasen't called the 7mm Express till 1979...
I think they should of kept that name permanent though. It sounds cooler. I think we all need to be thankful that in todays business world of company layoffs, buy outs and cutbacks, that we have multiple bow companies to bicker about. 10 years from now, there may only be 2 or 3...hopefully there will 10 more of them building even cooler toys for us to play with.
I just realized it's saturday nite and I'm playing on the internet with my face paint still on.....I'm gonna go shower and call a girl up or something....
ORIGINAL: Rob/PA Bowyer
Mikey S. That is so very, very cool. That's the first I saw that one. Man, talk about innovation, BACK THEN.....I'm thankful for all those guys today as we're seeing it all in real life action now. Master minds they were!
Mikey S. That is so very, very cool. That's the first I saw that one. Man, talk about innovation, BACK THEN.....I'm thankful for all those guys today as we're seeing it all in real life action now. Master minds they were!
10-25-2008 | 07:42 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: Where the ducks don't come no more
RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
ORIGINAL: Mikey S..
Swampcollie....the .280 wasen't called the 7mm Express till 1979... I think they should of kept that name permanent though. It sounds cooler.
Swampcollie....the .280 wasen't called the 7mm Express till 1979...
I think they should of kept that name permanent though. It sounds cooler. That article on Allen (which I had never read... but I had heard of him) was quite an interesting read. Pretty dang impressive really...
10-25-2008 | 09:23 PM
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Typical Buck
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RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
"Now I was waiting to see what Hoyy was going to introduce and all they come up with is the AlphaMax 32 and the AlphaMax 35 ???
Sorry but not real impressed from a company that used to be the Harley Davidson of the archery industry"
SwampCollie, it was more of a disappointed on the Lack of new offerings from Hoyt. Heck I haven't even put the Sentinel in my hand or the AlphaMax so to give an opinion on the draw or shooting, I can't. This is more about the lack of new intro's from Salt Lake, not the quality or which bow company is better....I hate those battles[:'(]
Sorry but not real impressed from a company that used to be the Harley Davidson of the archery industry"
SwampCollie, it was more of a disappointed on the Lack of new offerings from Hoyt. Heck I haven't even put the Sentinel in my hand or the AlphaMax so to give an opinion on the draw or shooting, I can't. This is more about the lack of new intro's from Salt Lake, not the quality or which bow company is better....I hate those battles[:'(]
ORIGINAL: SwampCollie
Elk, I gotta play the devil's advocate here..... you started this thread saying how you weren't impressed with the new Hoyts.... and you haven't even put your hands on one yet? How in the world can you give us your honest opinion if you haven't even SEEN the thing? 
ORIGINAL: elkhuntinut
Local dealer that I deal with sells both companies, said that the AlphaMax should be in the store next week.
Local dealer that I deal with sells both companies, said that the AlphaMax should be in the store next week.
10-25-2008 | 11:05 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
Rob,I wasn't taking offense,kinda short on time with my response cause I was in and out and it might have read that way,sorry.I was just having a little fun last night,and a couple beers.
BUT,I should know that not everyone read my previous post about how all the designs we are seeing today are just refined versions of years gone by.
I really don't want to make this a my bow is better than your bow thread,just wanting to stick with the facts and check the feelings at the door.Hoyt has made some great bows but they have made some duds as well.
Rob,or anyone else that might know.There was actually a company that made an aluminum riser tech style bow (before Hoyt) but I can't remember who or find a pic of it.Does anyone know who it was?
BUT,I should know that not everyone read my previous post about how all the designs we are seeing today are just refined versions of years gone by.I really don't want to make this a my bow is better than your bow thread,just wanting to stick with the facts and check the feelings at the door.Hoyt has made some great bows but they have made some duds as well.
Rob,or anyone else that might know.There was actually a company that made an aluminum riser tech style bow (before Hoyt) but I can't remember who or find a pic of it.Does anyone know who it was?
10-25-2008 | 11:13 PM
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Giant Nontypical
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From: HENDERSON KY USA
RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
It's interesting to me how bows are "regional". I don't know a single person around here who shoots Hoyt. I wouldn't know where to go to buy one within an hour of here.......and when mentioned in hunting circles here....they're kinda viewed as Yugo's are in car circles.
Obviously they're a good bow....and a good company. I did give them a fair shake a couple years ago before buying my Allegiance. At that time....the Trykon was their flagship bow. Man.....what timing, huh?.....lol.
I assume the Edsel was Ford's flagship model one year, too.
It's interesting to me how bows are "regional". I don't know a single person around here who shoots Hoyt. I wouldn't know where to go to buy one within an hour of here.......and when mentioned in hunting circles here....they're kinda viewed as Yugo's are in car circles.
Obviously they're a good bow....and a good company. I did give them a fair shake a couple years ago before buying my Allegiance. At that time....the Trykon was their flagship bow. Man.....what timing, huh?.....lol.
I assume the Edsel was Ford's flagship model one year, too.
I don't think Hoyt is the top seller at my shop.I believeMathews still holds that title but Hoyt is a close second and Bowtech is a distant 3rd.Not that ,that means anything,just that in our geographic region,it seems to be the norm.BUT,Bowtech is growing at a faster pase than either.
10-26-2008 | 04:10 AM
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Typical Buck
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From: South Carolina
RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
ORIGINAL: TFOX
I find that interesting.I have a friend that was a sniper in the marines that lives in South Carolina that is a HUGE Hoyt guy and the way he talks,they reign supreme in his area.He is a hell of a shot as well.
I find that interesting.I have a friend that was a sniper in the marines that lives in South Carolina that is a HUGE Hoyt guy and the way he talks,they reign supreme in his area.He is a hell of a shot as well.
Thats interesting because I don't even know where a Hoyt dealer is in SC nor do I personally know a single person who shoots Hoyt. Every part of SC that I've hunted and lived in has been dominated by Mathews and recently BowTech.
10-26-2008 | 07:44 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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From: West Ky.
RE: Not 2 Impressed with the 09 Hoyts
Yes bowtech is the Harley Davidson of the archery industry now, always at the shop getting fixed. I couldnt help it. LOL[quote]ORIGINAL: elkhuntinut
"Now I was waiting to see what Hoyy was going to introduce and all they come up with is the AlphaMax 32 and the AlphaMax 35 ???
Sorry but not real impressed from a company that used to be the Harley Davidson of the archery industry"
[quote]ORIGINAL: elkhuntinut"Now I was waiting to see what Hoyy was going to introduce and all they come up with is the AlphaMax 32 and the AlphaMax 35 ???
Sorry but not real impressed from a company that used to be the Harley Davidson of the archery industry"