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Oneshot7 10-15-2008 09:23 PM

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There are alot of heads that will cause that much bleeding on impact, its all about shot placement :eek:

Jeff, straight from the SC DNR website
"No, turkey, dove, and waterfowl may not be hunted where they are lured by bait (grain or food stuffs). The lure and attraction of any bait is a determination made with varying circumstances. The safest route would be to cut off all feeders and remove all bait 2 to 3 weeks before hunting turkey, dove, or waterfowl.
Note: Although DNR has no authority over feeding deer in SC, hunting deer over bait is unlawful in Game Zones 1, 2, and 4 (piedmont and mountains). "


Looks fine to me, and resembles Kellys, which I beleive to be 100% bonafide and a real image, and awesome one at that. Kudos to the kid, wish I couldve done it, and hope he gets to do it again some time soon.

Matt / PA 10-15-2008 10:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Oneshot7

There are alot of heads that will cause that much bleeding on impact, its all about shot placement :eek:

Jeff, straight from the SC DNR website
"No, turkey, dove, and waterfowl may not be hunted where they are lured by bait (grain or food stuffs). The lure and attraction of any bait is a determination made with varying circumstances. The safest route would be to cut off all feeders and remove all bait 2 to 3 weeks before hunting turkey, dove, or waterfowl.
Note: Although DNR has no authority over feeding deer in SC, hunting deer over bait is unlawful in Game Zones 1, 2, and 4 (piedmont and mountains). "


Looks fine to me, and resembles Kellys, which I beleive to be 100% bonafide and a real image, and awesome one at that. Kudos to the kid, wish I couldve done it, and hope he gets to do it again some time soon.
It's been stated serveral times already.......the kid, the deer,the kid and the deer, the arrow, the blood, the picture........ are all from WISCONSIN.;)


Oneshot7 10-15-2008 10:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: Matt / PA


ORIGINAL: Oneshot7

There are alot of heads that will cause that much bleeding on impact, its all about shot placement :eek:

Jeff, straight from the SC DNR website
"No, turkey, dove, and waterfowl may not be hunted where they are lured by bait (grain or food stuffs). The lure and attraction of any bait is a determination made with varying circumstances. The safest route would be to cut off all feeders and remove all bait 2 to 3 weeks before hunting turkey, dove, or waterfowl.
Note: Although DNR has no authority over feeding deer in SC, hunting deer over bait is unlawful in Game Zones 1, 2, and 4 (piedmont and mountains). "


Looks fine to me, and resembles Kellys, which I beleive to be 100% bonafide and a real image, and awesome one at that. Kudos to the kid, wish I couldve done it, and hope he gets to do it again some time soon.
It's been stated serveral times already.......the kid, the deer,the kid and the deer, the arrow, the blood, the picture........ are all from WISCONSIN.;)


I know that Matt, just some factual info for Jeff, as he didnt know. Shouldve made that clear I guess :eek:

Matt / PA 10-15-2008 10:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: Oneshot7


I know that Matt, just some factual info for Jeff, as he didnt know. Shouldve made that clear I guess :eek:
OK gotcha, just didn't want the 15yr old kid to be accused of pointless photo espionage as well as illegal baiting. :eek:[:-]

buckmaster 10-15-2008 10:28 PM

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I havent read all of the posts, but seems pretty real to me. Has anyone noticed the Second deer in the photo, on the left side, also running? I believe it.

Sport4 10-15-2008 10:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

Ya has to be a rage blade, notice the little penetration, any other blade would be sticking in the ground. probably a mathews bow as well.
Ouch man!! Thems there are fighten words!!;)

bigtim6656 10-16-2008 03:59 AM

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the blurr would go toward it looking real. but a deer in full jump and running that is not blurry but see through show me a deer that you can see through like a window

ORIGINAL: bowmanaj

Thats gotta be real...What does being able to see through the deers body or it being blurryhave to do with anything? That happens on occasion when the deer are moving quickly.

Here's an example from my moultrie this year:

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk356/bowmanaj/trailcamendogjuly003.jpg


IL_BOW_MAN 10-16-2008 07:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

Ya has to be a rage blade, notice the little penetration, any other blade would be sticking in the ground. probably a mathews bow as well.
Wow...I know I haven't been around the bowhunting forum in a few years...but you guys still pick on us Mathews shooters? I guess some things never change!!;)

Hey Matt...I can see it bugs you just as much as it does me that some of these guys have not read any of the responses before they post up their comments.



LittleChief 10-16-2008 07:53 AM

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ORIGINAL: IL_BOW_MAN


ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

Ya has to be a rage blade, notice the little penetration, any other blade would be sticking in the ground. probably a mathews bow as well.
Wow...I know I haven't been around the bowhunting forum in a few years...but you guys still pick on us Mathews shooters? I guess some things never change!!;)
:D:D:DSome things never change, IL. Oh well. Actually, in the photo it looks like the arrow might be lodged in the right shoulder which would acount for the apparent lack of penetration.Of course, you know that if that shot had been made with my Drenalin, the pic would show the right front leg severed and falling to the ground.[8D]:D:D:D

mossberghunter93 10-16-2008 08:01 AM

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im only posting this because i keep getting subsciption notifyers on my email and im going insane:D

kickin_buck 10-16-2008 08:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: zrexpilot

Ya has to be a rage blade, notice the little penetration, any other blade would be sticking in the ground. probably a mathews bow as well.
Damn, that was just rude!!!!!!

johnnybravoo77 10-16-2008 08:48 AM

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Heres a larger image as posted on that "other" site. Sounds like it could upto two weeks before they have the results from the people analyzing the pic.


tlutterba 10-16-2008 02:10 PM

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TOTALLY AGREE



ORIGINAL: AF Hunter

That picture appears to be superimposed. If it had not been, you would either not see through the deer like you can or the bottom of the deer would have been blurry from the movement.

burniegoeasily 10-16-2008 02:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: AF Hunter

That picture appears to be superimposed. If it had not been, you would either not see through the deer like you can or the bottom of the deer would have been blurry from the movement.
Its a magic deer. I found that odd too. Ive never shot a transparent deer.:D

LittleChief 10-16-2008 02:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: burniegoeasily


ORIGINAL: AF Hunter

That picture appears to be superimposed. If it had not been, you would either not see through the deer like you can or the bottom of the deer would have been blurry from the movement.
Its a magic deer. I found that odd too. Ive never shot a transparent deer.:D
Are you ABSOLUTELY sure?? How about a deer that you don't see how you could have missed but your arrow was clean? MAYBEit passed through one of those transparent spots.

Besides, a lot of the people I know are pretty transparent. Why can't deer be the same way?

Carpmaster 10-16-2008 02:21 PM

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Carpmaster 10-16-2008 02:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

ya it looks fake. Not a good fake either heck i could do better and i am not that good at photoshop. Never saw asee through deer in the woods.


You are an idiot. period. You can't do better than an actual photo, tardcakes....imagine that:eek:

Ihave hadtransparent imageswith my $350 Fuji and my $900 Cannon, and have seen them off of many other cameras... Transparent images happen all the time!!!!!!!!

mr4pt 10-16-2008 02:47 PM

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For all of you photoshop "experts" who are claiming this is fake....

'shop us the exact same photo, using a doe shot 10" further back.

fletch920 10-16-2008 02:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Carpmaster


ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

ya it looks fake. Not a good fake either heck i could do better and i am not that good at photoshop. Never saw asee through deer in the woods.


You are an idiot. period. You can't do better than an actual photo, tardcakes....imagine that:eek:

Ihave hadtransparent imageswith my $350 Fuji and my $900 Cannon, and have seen them off of many other cameras... Transparent images happen all the time!!!!!!!!
Now THAT is funny. I dont care who you are. Thanks Carp. I needed that.


Photo is legit in my opinion. I have also gotten trail cam photos with some transparency. It's not that uncommon.

tardcakes!!:D:D:D:D:D not nice, but funny.

mahoningbuck 10-16-2008 03:00 PM

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This one will go on till spring turkey season.......I will be checking back in March 09!

MN/Kyle 10-16-2008 03:02 PM

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[>:]

HammytheHunter 10-16-2008 03:12 PM

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Yea... I saw this on the other site and wasn't sure what to expect. I'd like to read the initial story again to see if they mention anything about that being the only deer in the area or if there were other deer in the area at the time of the shot. I didn't see it on the initial posting... but in that blow-up I noticed that there is the rear of a deer further back and on the left right past another corn pile(not sure if this has been mentioned already). Keep in mind... that deer is transparent as well due to the motion of the deer.

Guess we will have to see.

mr4pt 10-17-2008 10:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: mr4pt

For all of you photoshop "experts" who are claiming this is fake....

'shop us the exact same photo, using a doe shot 10" further back.
anyone?

MGH_PA 10-17-2008 10:43 AM

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ORIGINAL: mr4pt


ORIGINAL: mr4pt

For all of you photoshop "experts" who are claiming this is fake....

'shop us the exact same photo, using a doe shot 10" further back.
anyone?
I believe it's real. For kicks and giggles, here's somewhat like you requested...still looks like a buck in the face, but I didn't replace the deer all together. It's not perfect by any means, but it was a quick job.



V8Ranger 10-17-2008 11:13 AM

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In my opinion, you wont get that kind of blood splatter on the deer that fast, it would take a couple of seconds for blood to appear, and by that time that deer would be long gone out of the trail cam pic, so in my opinion this is very fake, not to mention you can see the treesthrough the deer. This is a fake as Pamela Anderson's boob's.:D

bowman15 10-17-2008 11:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: vc1111


The ambient light cause the images of the trees to be registered first; the animal jumps and the flash trips and captures the image of the deer frozen in midair. The timer on the camera would naturally have a very slight delay before causing the flash to trip...thus the brighter light shining through the trees would register sharp enough to be registered first with the overlay of the animal captured by the flash. The flash does NOT fire as the precise moment that the lens opens to capture the image. It is essentially physically impossible.

This is absolutely correct. And it makes total sense.

And as for the blood, I've seen what looked like an explosion of blood at the impact-sights on a few of my deer. Deer are instantly in motion when they're hit and yet there's blood all over the place where they're hit. Anyone whose followed a blood trail and seen the deer running knows they bleed ALOT and fast when hit in the right place.

I believe it's real, 100%.


Tardcakes....that was funny.

Kelly/KY 10-17-2008 11:45 AM

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I'm probably going to get heat, but can I offer something up to everyone for consideration. The guy is just sharing a pic (which didn't even originate on our site)that he felt everyone might enjoy. IBM wanted us to see it. If you think it's fake then fine, if not then enjoy it.Everyone is going to have opinions. It's a cool pic regardless. I don't think anyone stuck it on here for any great accolades or prizes, etc. If it's shopped then it's pretty good and take a minute to chuckle. I really don't see the sense in all the negativity especially this time of year when we all have so many other things to chat about.

Now, is everyone's weather forcast looking up for this weekend and are any of you guys seeing the bucks starting to wander a little more?

jjlemm001 10-17-2008 11:45 AM

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Whether it is photoshop or not why is the deer in the middle left edge of the picture just standing there as if nothing is going on? Figure that it too would a not be in the pic or at least attempting to bolt. Either that the camera snapped the pic just in time to catch the 2nd deer also.

monster6 10-17-2008 12:19 PM

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FAKE! for everyone who believe this is true come on now! you can see right past through the deer for god sake!

NCRemington700 10-17-2008 12:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: monster6

FAKE! for everyone who believe this is true come on now! you can see right past through the deer for god sake!


Welcome to the late late show with monster6! :D

MATHEWS PA BOWHUNTER 10-17-2008 12:52 PM

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COOL PICTURE EITHER WAY!!!!!!


I like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

janesburg 10-17-2008 01:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: monster6

FAKE! for everyone who believe this is true come on now! you can see right past through the deer for god sake!
Fake or not...don't use the fact that you can see thru the deer as the determining factor. I've had ALOT of pics from my Cuddeback of deer moving and it looks like a blob for a head or its misssing a leg.

I assure you these are nota photoshop!!!! Just an example of what movement of the animal can do to some pics.




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Austin/WI 10-17-2008 01:03 PM

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ORIGINAL: NCRemington700


ORIGINAL: monster6

FAKE! for everyone who believe this is true come on now! you can see right past through the deer for god sake!


Welcome to the late late show with monster6! :D
LMAO!!

Tomkat08 10-17-2008 01:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kelly/KY

I'm probably going to get heat, but can I offer something up to everyone for consideration. The guy is just sharing a pic (which didn't even originate on our site)that he felt everyone might enjoy. IBM wanted us to see it. If you think it's fake then fine, if not then enjoy it.Everyone is going to have opinions. It's a cool pic regardless. I don't think anyone stuck it on here for any great accolades or prizes, etc. If it's shopped then it's pretty good and take a minute to chuckle. I really don't see the sense in all the negativity especially this time of year when we all have so many other things to chat about.

Now, is everyone's weather forcast looking up for this weekend and are any of you guys seeing the bucks starting to wander a little more?

Yes agreed, everyone has their own opinion on the image. I really believe it is a photo job myself.
But does it really matter? I mean if someone was to catch a cam shot of some action like that, would it not be cool as hell to see it?
Fighting over if it is real or fake is pretty silly. Just admire it guys and move on.
If it is scientifically proved to be real, then i will be owning the person an apology and will not run from my decision. I half hope it is real so i can be wrong about what i find.
As far as tinkering with the image to prove a point. That will not prove anything but how good you are with photo editing the image.



ORIGINAL: janesburg


ORIGINAL: monster6

FAKE! for everyone who believe this is true come on now! you can see right past through the deer for god sake!
Fake or not...don't use the fact that you can see thru the deer as the determining factor. I've had ALOT of pics from my Cuddeback of deer moving and it looks like a blob for a head or its misssing a leg.

I assure you these are nota photoshop!!!! Just an example of what movement of the animal can do to some pics.
Your camera is lagging, i would call your ISp and request a refund lol.....

Predator19 10-17-2008 02:27 PM

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The trail cameras all have slow shutter speeds and see through pics are not uncommon. This is a cool pic!

Predator19 10-17-2008 02:35 PM

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You can "see through" the front bucks antler and part of the does belly and head. It happens quite a bit in daylight pics.

IL_BOW_MAN 10-17-2008 03:00 PM

RE: Check out this picture...
 

I'm probably going to get heat, but can I offer something up to everyone for consideration. The guy is just sharing a pic (which didn't even originate on our site) that he felt everyone might enjoy. IBM wanted us to see it. If you think it's fake then fine, if not then enjoy it. Everyone is going to have opinions. It's a cool pic regardless. I don't think anyone stuck it on here for any great accolades or prizes, etc. If it's shopped then it's pretty good and take a minute to chuckle. I really don't see the sense in all the negativity especially this time of year when we all have so many other things to chat about.
Now, is everyone's weather forcast looking up for this weekend and are any of you guys seeing the bucks starting to wander a little more?

No heat from me Kelly. I personally think this has turned into a humerous post. So many people calling fake because they can see through the deer. But I wonder how many of those people took the time to read and try to understand how a camera works and how this could happen.

What does this kid have to prove? It isn't like he is the one posting the pictures around...they are getting forwarded many many times. He has a family member on both sites going to bat for him. If these people don't want to believe it is real, fine.

I believe there is enough posts in this thread calling fake or even calling real that we should let it die. Unless somebody has something constructive to say about this picture or post...just let it die.

How would you guys like it, Kelly knows first hand, if you posted a picture and everybody calls fake on it and you know that it is real? Internet or not, sitting behind your computer you are going to be mad as all get out.

As the guy that started the thread....let it die, or maybe a mod can lock it out...but since it hasn't crossed any rules, they will leave it.

Oh yeah...hey janesburg, you should have a biologist come and check out your deer herd. You have a lot of legless deer out there!!:D

Tomkat08 10-17-2008 04:33 PM

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Predator19 That is a real good example of ghosting. Chances are high the original image of the starting post is real.

tcm0812 10-17-2008 05:28 PM

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looks like there might be some yellow acorns in the botton right corner

huntingirl89 10-23-2008 08:53 AM

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LMAO This has been a great 12 pages. I've lurked in the shadows here but never really posted and I gotta say this is one of the most amusing threads I've read in a long time. Seeing as how every expert from bowhunting to photoshopping seems to be present, I don't need to contribute my opinion.

Thanks for the chuckle guys :D


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