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MGH_PA 10-15-2008 02:00 PM

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ORIGINAL: Tomkat08

I know what ghosting is mate. And your right about that, but you can see also there is no shadow from anything especially the arrow itself. With a flash, such as what is seen in this image there will very well be one from the arrow or the deer itself.
If you zoom all the way it it was clone brushed then an eraser was used to touch up the edges. This is where the humps came from mate. I have seen this thousands of times, and if you try to clean up too much you get this effect. If you did it with single pixel size you wont see it as much.

Im dead set on it being a fake image here. Too much visual evidence on the edges of the deer from a touched up image.
He/she would have no reason to only use the clone brush on the back only when extracting the image. I teach this stuff, and this is one of the first tools I teach my students when making selections. That "selection" of the deer has areas that would DEFINITELY have rough edges once cut out that would need some minor (or major depending on experience) touch up done with the clone stamp. Not just the back. What about the tail? What about the hoof? The dirt in front of the hoof? Why is that perfect? I think the back is just tufts of hair rasing up on the back, but we will see because the guy has sent it in to a professional company (the same one that cracked the world record hogzilla hoax), and they will be analyzing it. I doubt it's fake.

HuntingBry 10-15-2008 02:08 PM

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Some of you guys really need a life. I have transparent deer on my game camera that weren't shot, just moving. I believe it's real, but could care less.

IAhuntr 10-15-2008 02:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: HuntingBry

Some of you guys really need a life. I have transparent deer on my game camera that weren't shot, just moving. I believe it's real, but could care less.
X 2.
Every other pic that gets posted on this forum gets the royal shakedown from all of the self-proclaimedPhotoshop expertslike nobody really kills a big deer legally or catches anything decent on their trail cams in real life.


BUCKARCHER79 10-15-2008 02:20 PM

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Cool Pic! [/align]

IL_BOW_MAN 10-15-2008 02:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: nchawkeye

That deer must have been shot with a Rage!!!:D
If I recall right...I am not reading 14 pages of crap on AT again...but I beleive his relative said it was shot with a rage.

Sooner State Hunter 10-15-2008 02:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: IL_BOW_MAN


ORIGINAL: nchawkeye

That deer must have been shot with a Rage!!!:D
If I recall right...I am not reading 14 pages of crap on AT again...but I beleive his relative said it was shot with a rage.
Yep, on the South Carolina forum where this was originally posted they said it was a Rage. In fact they said he sent the pic to both Cuddeback and Rage to "see if they could use it". Cuddeback said it was too graphic. They didn't say what Rage's response was.

bcvd45 10-15-2008 02:41 PM

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I believe it as a fellow photoshop expert.....ok...photoshop novice....fine I have see a photoshopped picture before....but I believe!

NCRemington700 10-15-2008 02:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sooner State Hunter


ORIGINAL: IL_BOW_MAN


ORIGINAL: nchawkeye

That deer must have been shot with a Rage!!!:D
If I recall right...I am not reading 14 pages of crap on AT again...but I beleive his relative said it was shot with a rage.
Yep, on the South Carolina forum where this was originally posted they said it was a Rage. In fact they said he sent the pic to both Cuddeback and Rage to "see if they could use it". Cuddeback said it was too graphic. They didn't say what Rage's response was.
Rage probably said it wasn't graphic ENOUGH! :D Must have been the 3 blade.


And I'm on the record too for this being a real picture. Ok, carry on.

Sport4 10-15-2008 02:51 PM

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Somebody get the kid in here and have him show it to us straight off the deer cam.;)I think it is real. ****lly had a pic like this from his deer cam and the same transparent affect happened to the deer.


IL_BOW_MAN 10-15-2008 03:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sport4

Somebody get the kid in here and have him show it to us straight off the deer cam.;)I think it is real. ****lly had a pic like this from his deer cam and the same transparent affect happened to the deer.

Well heck...Kelly's must have been fake. I am sure he photoshopped his. What is the chance of that guy shooting a big buck like that for about every year that I have known him on these boards (back in the days of KCISON). Now I have to go back and search the pictures he sent me for evidence of a photoshop job!![8D]

No offense Kelly!!;)

HOGHUNTINGUNLIMITED 10-15-2008 03:34 PM

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That is a great picture! Looks like a good shot to!

NY911Bowhunter 10-15-2008 03:40 PM

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It has been checked by several real experts and looks to be legit.

wis_rifle_hunter 10-15-2008 03:46 PM

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its a fake. you can see through the deer

Kelly/KY 10-15-2008 03:56 PM

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IBM...you're on crack, no offense. If you want the original, I still have it loaded. I didn't photoshopmine.

Who knows, I don't know the guy, but I do know it's possible with cuddebacks that's all I'm saying. The thing that kind of got me is all the positive comments on AT, when mine got jerked in about 30 minutes as a fake. Rick James even tried to defend me and they pulled it.

Hoytail Hunter 10-15-2008 03:59 PM

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I don't know either way if it's real or fake because I have zero knowledge on the technical side. On the side where I've cut myself before, there was no blood til about a quarter of a second later. That deer has a good 3 inch patch of blood on his fur. How did that happen in the split second he jumped up into the air?

***shrugs***

Anyway- ding ding ding... experts, come out swinging!

Matt / PA 10-15-2008 05:54 PM

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I've seen plenty of deer shot on video that spurted blood at the first move after impact........A couple Drury vids come to mind recently where they are shooting Rage heads.
That picture absolutely looks legit to me, its the split second right before the legs come back on a "Mule Kick"

I do love the every so often reiteration of it being fake because you can see through the deer. LOL does anybody actually read the responses before they post? :D

And for what its worth the kid and the deer are from Wisconsin not South Carolina.

buckmaster_27 10-15-2008 05:58 PM

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looks fake

mahoningbuck 10-15-2008 06:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: buckmaster_27

looks fake
Not buying it one bit! I have starred at this picture for atleast 15 minutes and I cant see this being real. I have also gone to the SC DNR and depending on what zone this guy lives in baiting is illegal according the law.
http://www.dnr.sc.gov/regs/pdf/RulesRegs0809.pdf

Oneshot7 10-15-2008 06:35 PM

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UHHHH Baiting is illegal in SC :eek:

Matt / PA 10-15-2008 07:04 PM

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DOES ANYBODY READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS??:eek:

GMMAT 10-15-2008 07:04 PM

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Baiting illegal in SC?

News, to me....

OK....I think it's real. Call me a pushover. I KNOW Kelly's was real.....because we know Kelly.

I think the same thing's happening on this photo that was happening on Kelly's. I think the arrow on both photos is on the way back OUT.

And...like Matt....I think that it's completely plausible that we'd see blood at this point....and lots of it. If that arrow struck the off-side and is backing out....it's gonna have some blood preceeding the shaft.

Sport4 10-15-2008 07:04 PM

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Haha, I should really go back and edit the way I put Kelly/KY's name.I'd have thought somebody would have picked up on it by now. Unless I am the only one with myhead in the gutter.:)

AR Bowhunter 10-15-2008 07:13 PM

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Looks to me like a deer that was laying on the ground an placed in a trail cam picture with some fancy work.

GMMAT 10-15-2008 07:15 PM

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DOES ANYBODY READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS??:eek:
Sure.

Flesh wound. He'll live!

AF Hunter 10-15-2008 07:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Vito1

The strange part is anyone that appears to be knowledgeable in photoshop and/or photography seems to believe this is real. Hmm...I wonder who is more likely to be right?

If this hits 14 pages, I might have to change my avatar![8D]
Not true spanky, I have been taking professional photos for over 30 years and I still believe the photo has been manipulated.

Sport4 10-15-2008 07:24 PM

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Ok, I just had to dig it up. This same thing happened to Kelly/Ky last year. Notice the transparency when shot. If experts have looked at the picture and said it looks legit, then I would have to say that it is real. Oh, and as for the bleeding, the same thing happened to this deer too.

dhacker 10-15-2008 07:33 PM

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Hi there, I am the one that posted the pic on AT - I am a member at this site andthere. Some questions answered:

Logan (15) shot the buck and a few days later; pulled the chip and brought it home and found this as one of the pics.

Rage broadhead (not sure if 2 or 3)

Deer was shot in WI (not in SC)where it is legal to hunt over 2 gallons of corn (we have no idea how it ended up at the SCsite so fast)

The pic has already been provided to Rhonda at Stinky Journalism for analysis as well as Brian (Logans dad) talked directly to Rhonda tonight.

Brian and Logan are writing the story behind the whole hunt as well as providing at least one additional photo and this info will be posted assumingly tonight or tomorrow on archerytalk.com (sorry about the redirect from this site)

I will offer the same thing here is I did on AT - if you want a copy of the original file for analysis - PM me.


Vito1 10-15-2008 07:34 PM

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ORIGINAL: AF Hunter


ORIGINAL: Vito1

The strange part is anyone that appears to be knowledgeable in photoshop and/or photography seems to believe this is real. Hmm...I wonder who is more likely to be right?

If this hits 14 pages, I might have to change my avatar![8D]
Not true spanky, I have been taking professional photos for over 30 years and I still believe the photo has been manipulated.
Spanky? Not sure what the point of that was. Some people resort to name calling when they realize they are wrong.:eek:

bigtim6656 10-15-2008 07:38 PM

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ya it looks fake. Not a good fake either heck i could do better and i am not that good at photoshop. Never saw asee through deer in the woods.

ORIGINAL: AF Hunter

That picture appears to be superimposed. If it had not been, you would either not see through the deer like you can or the bottom of the deer would have been blurry from the movement.

GMMAT 10-15-2008 07:40 PM

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So Kelly's is a fake, too? Is that what you "fake" guys are saying?



bigtim6656 10-15-2008 07:49 PM

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i have not seen kellys pic but the one in the post looks fake i have never seen a pic of anything where you can see through a animal or person or what ever

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

So Kelly's is a fake, too? Is that what you "fake" guys are saying?



bowmanaj 10-15-2008 07:52 PM

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Thats gotta be real...What does being able to see through the deers body or it being blurryhave to do with anything? That happens on occasion when the deer are moving quickly.

Here's an example from my moultrie this year:

http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/kk356/bowmanaj/trailcamendogjuly003.jpg


Sport4 10-15-2008 07:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

DOES ANYBODY READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS??:eek:
I think this will answer your question Matt.

Sport4 10-15-2008 07:55 PM

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ORIGINAL: bigtim6656

i have not seen kellys pic but the one in the post looks fake i have never seen a pic of anything where you can see through a animal or person or what ever
I just posted it right before you posted saying that it was fake.

Rory/MO 10-15-2008 08:11 PM

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Honestly, what does it matter to us if it's fake or real?
If it's real, awesome picture.
If it's not real, great photoshopping job.

Kudos either way.

IL_BOW_MAN 10-15-2008 08:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Kelly/KY

IBM...you're on crack, no offense. If you want the original, I still have it loaded. I didn't photoshopmine.
You know I still like you kelly!! No worries!!

vc1111 10-15-2008 08:55 PM

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I have a pretty long background in photography and I agree that this photo is completely plausible.

The ambient light cause the images of the trees to be registered first; the animal jumps and the flash trips and captures the image of the deer frozen in midair. The timer on the camera would naturally have a very slight delay before causing the flash to trip...thus the brighter light shining through the trees would register sharp enough to be registered first with the overlay of the animal captured by the flash. The flash does NOT fire as the precise moment that the lens opens to capture the image. It is essentially physically impossible.

As to the blood...try those Rage broadheads and see for yourself. They lay that animal wide open instantly. By the time it coiled and jumped, that much blood could easily be beginning to exit near the entrance wound because of the pressure created on the lung area from the deer recoiling to jump...and it has to recoil first to jump.

This era of game trail cameras is a new era. We'll see more amazing photos of shots and I'm sure we'll have people who simply can't believe that such things could happen. If you've hunted and fished long enough, you should know that the truth is a whole heck of a lot more unbelievable than anything you could make up.

RackLuster 10-15-2008 09:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Matt / PA

I've seen plenty of deer shot on video that spurted blood at the first move after impact........A couple Drury vids come to mind recently where they are shooting Rage heads.
I bet I'm thinking of the same exact video. I watched that thing in slow motion about 10 times. I think mark shot it, the deer had really tall g3's (if i remember right) and was walking right to left in the video. blood explodes out of the deer on impact. it was actually kind of gross.

I think the pictures is real.

gregrn43 10-15-2008 09:16 PM

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wow nice

zrexpilot 10-15-2008 09:19 PM

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Ya has to be a rage blade, notice the little penetration, any other blade would be sticking in the ground. probably a mathews bow as well.


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