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ltpelham 09-25-2008 07:50 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

ORIGINAL: Matt / PA


ORIGINAL: misscortney

I understand that, but newlaws should adjust to the economy, not the economy adjust to new laws. What I'm trying to say is, is that this is not going to make the economy any better. Everyone thinks it's up to the president to save us, but it is up to the states as well. Sure, they took a gamble, but every business is a gamble. Maybe if MI was a little better off this wouldn't bug me so much, but right now is not the time to save some freakin deer.
To take it to the same extreme as people living in cardboard boxes.........what happens to MI's economy if baiting is allowed to continue and it contributes to the complete destruction of the deer herd?
What if there are no more deer to hunt period because deer hunting is shut down and those hunter dollars are lost completely?[:-]

very very well put. since hunting is only a multi million dollars industry for michigan

misscortney 09-25-2008 07:55 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 
There are more things to hunt other than deer. And it will not wipe out the whole population.I'm sure the complete deer population is not going to wipe out. You make a good point, but I know more farmers that make an incomefrom farming than I do hunters that make an income from hunting. Do you disagree?

Vito1 09-25-2008 07:57 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

ORIGINAL: misscortney

I understand that, but newlaws should adjust to the economy, not the economy adjust to new laws. What I'm trying to say is, is that this is not going to make the economy any better. Everyone thinks it's up to the president to save us, but it is up to the states as well. Sure, they took a gamble, but every business is a gamble. Maybe if MI was a little better off this wouldn't bug me so much, but right now is not the time to save some freakin deer.
So should every business get to sue someone when their gamble doesn't work out? To keep this subject in MI, should Ford sue OPEC for high oil prices as Ford lost millions in SUV/truck sales? When you gamble, you win some and you lose some. The deer bait crop farmers"won" in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. They lost in 2008.

ltpelham 09-25-2008 08:00 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 
well im for this ban due to not knowing what else CWD can do such as cows and horses and destory our food as we speak. it has to be contained once its contained we can open up baiting again

misscortney 09-25-2008 08:00 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

ORIGINAL: Vito1


ORIGINAL: misscortney

I understand that, but newlaws should adjust to the economy, not the economy adjust to new laws. What I'm trying to say is, is that this is not going to make the economy any better. Everyone thinks it's up to the president to save us, but it is up to the states as well. Sure, they took a gamble, but every business is a gamble. Maybe if MI was a little better off this wouldn't bug me so much, but right now is not the time to save some freakin deer.
So should every business get to sue someone when their gamble doesn't work out? To keep this subject in MI, should Ford sue OPEC for high oil prices as Ford lost millions in SUV/truck sales? When you gamble, you win some and you lose some. The deer bait crop farmers"won" in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. They lost in 2008.
But this is MI screwing over MI. Ford and GM workers got a payout--so, what about the farmers?

SteveBNy 09-25-2008 08:10 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

Any business is a gamble
Exactly!!
Any farmer that cannot sell feed corn this year at what are record prices is doing something seriously wrong.

Are deer management practices supposed to be set only by by what is good for the farmer?
If that was the case here, then it would mean open season to wipe out the herd to protect crops.
Kind of glad they look at the total picture.

Steve


Vito1 09-25-2008 08:11 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

ORIGINAL: misscortney


ORIGINAL: Vito1


ORIGINAL: misscortney

I understand that, but newlaws should adjust to the economy, not the economy adjust to new laws. What I'm trying to say is, is that this is not going to make the economy any better. Everyone thinks it's up to the president to save us, but it is up to the states as well. Sure, they took a gamble, but every business is a gamble. Maybe if MI was a little better off this wouldn't bug me so much, but right now is not the time to save some freakin deer.
So should every business get to sue someone when their gamble doesn't work out? To keep this subject in MI, should Ford sue OPEC for high oil prices as Ford lost millions in SUV/truck sales? When you gamble, you win some and you lose some. The deer bait crop farmers"won" in 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007. They lost in 2008.
But this is MI screwing over MI. Ford and GM workers got a payout--so, what about the farmers?
I fail to see how MI is screwing over MI. Taking precautions to keep MI's deer herd from being destroyed is screwing us over? For once, the DNR is looking out for the herd first. Hopefully there will be more of this in the future.

silentassassin 09-25-2008 08:17 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

But this is MI screwing over MI. Ford and GM workers got a payout--so, what about the farmers? [align=right]
Which is going to hurt the Michigan economy worse; a baiting ban or erradication of their deer herd? If deer hunting is such a big part of Michigan's economy then I would think you would be more worried about the big picture, which is the health of the overall herd than you would be one farmer that can undoubtedly sell his crops somewhere else. JMO[/align]

ltpelham 09-25-2008 08:17 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 
i hope so to. we need to make sure its gone lol we should put fence on the border to keep other state deer from getting it lol JKJK but seriously it needs to be contained so we can have a healthy deer herd for my sons generation

Matt / PA 09-25-2008 08:23 AM

RE: Michigan man sues DNR for recent bait ban
 

but I know more farmers that make an incomefrom farming than I do hunters that make an income from hunting. Do you disagree?
I guess you fail to recognize the impact hunter dollars have on the local mom and pop sporting goods store, or restaurants, or gas stations, or motels etc etc.

If the hunters leave and/or stop spending their money because they can't hunt Michigan's showcase animal there will be a lot more people hurting than farmers. You are only looking at them.
In the long run farmers will be just fine because they'll rotate to corn or beans, while the "little" guy depending on that influx of business each year shuts down because the hunter money isn't there to pay the bills.:eek:




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