I don't think it matters at all at this point. [&:]

Matt said ass clown. He is funny.

Looks like I will be a ice man and captain.

The bows HAVE to be one of the sharpest looking line ups in a while. Innovative to say the least.

yep now that the cat has the key it will only be a matter of time before it finds its way out

and to think i just bought a new 82nd doht

As much as I love the specs/looks of the Brigadier (since I may be in the market for a target bow), I will probably just look for a Constitution, and keep the 101st as my hunting bow. I would love to try the admiral for a hunting bow, but I can't justify spending money on two bows at this point in my life (which is a bummer since I REALLY want to try two new ones this year).

I don't really like the looks of them. I'm sure they shoot great though.

let me ask this, for the guys who have felt them in their hands. what is the weight like. similar to the 08's.

I haven't held them but the Admiral, and Iceman are both under 4 pounds.

when are these available for sale

Meh, nothing earth shattering. If the Admiral is really 340, it will be a hot seller. Just too short for my likes.

I'll be waiting to see what Hoyt brings to the table. If nothing really new, I will probably pick up a Katera and retire the ole Dually.

Why the big secret anyway. If the bows are being produced get them to market. I think they ought to be released before Nov too, that's way too late to make a decession and be ready for hunting season. Should be introduced in June/July.