Michigan Baiting
#11
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: MichiganArcher
I am in Flushing, MI and down here in mid to southern MI we really don't need bait to harvest deer however up north just south of the bridge you'd be hard pressed to harvest one without the use of bait. There are just too many game trails and miles upon miles of woods to "hunt" them. If you can get on a farm up there you're golden but in the timber the odds are against you. I am personally just planning on hunting down here this year. I have permission on two farms and working on my third. I understand what the DNR's concept is but the deer was in Kent County and is an imported animal which makes no sense to me. They are going to damage the already failing economy more than anything. Farmers, bait markets, gas stations and the such may as well close up shop.
I am in Flushing, MI and down here in mid to southern MI we really don't need bait to harvest deer however up north just south of the bridge you'd be hard pressed to harvest one without the use of bait. There are just too many game trails and miles upon miles of woods to "hunt" them. If you can get on a farm up there you're golden but in the timber the odds are against you. I am personally just planning on hunting down here this year. I have permission on two farms and working on my third. I understand what the DNR's concept is but the deer was in Kent County and is an imported animal which makes no sense to me. They are going to damage the already failing economy more than anything. Farmers, bait markets, gas stations and the such may as well close up shop.
The plan was put together 6 years ago, it's extreme for very good reason. It's a 6 month plan(ban on baiting), at end of the 6 months the NRC will vote to keep it or reinstate baiting.
The real scary thing is out of the 40 deer at the farm, she was the only one that had CWD. All other deer tested negative, so where did she get it?[&:]
#12
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: Germ
I agree with you on some points, I will disagree on hunting the big woods of NLP and UP without bait. I have been successful without it.
The plan was put together 6 years ago, it's extreme for very good reason. It's a 6 month plan(ban on baiting), at end of the 6 months the NRC will vote to keep it or reinstate baiting.
The real scary thing is out of the 40 deer at the farm, she was the only one that had CWD. All other deer tested negative, so where did she get it?[&:]
ORIGINAL: MichiganArcher
I am in Flushing, MI and down here in mid to southern MI we really don't need bait to harvest deer however up north just south of the bridge you'd be hard pressed to harvest one without the use of bait. There are just too many game trails and miles upon miles of woods to "hunt" them. If you can get on a farm up there you're golden but in the timber the odds are against you. I am personally just planning on hunting down here this year. I have permission on two farms and working on my third. I understand what the DNR's concept is but the deer was in Kent County and is an imported animal which makes no sense to me. They are going to damage the already failing economy more than anything. Farmers, bait markets, gas stations and the such may as well close up shop.
I am in Flushing, MI and down here in mid to southern MI we really don't need bait to harvest deer however up north just south of the bridge you'd be hard pressed to harvest one without the use of bait. There are just too many game trails and miles upon miles of woods to "hunt" them. If you can get on a farm up there you're golden but in the timber the odds are against you. I am personally just planning on hunting down here this year. I have permission on two farms and working on my third. I understand what the DNR's concept is but the deer was in Kent County and is an imported animal which makes no sense to me. They are going to damage the already failing economy more than anything. Farmers, bait markets, gas stations and the such may as well close up shop.
The plan was put together 6 years ago, it's extreme for very good reason. It's a 6 month plan(ban on baiting), at end of the 6 months the NRC will vote to keep it or reinstate baiting.
The real scary thing is out of the 40 deer at the farm, she was the only one that had CWD. All other deer tested negative, so where did she get it?[&:]
#13
RE: Michigan Baiting
Well being we cannot afford gas anymore the deer are safe[&:] I guess we should look behind 2008, a herd with CWD in the wild does no one any good.
I have more faith in hunters of NLP, I bet some find as I have it's easier. You are correct in SLP we have more deer, and differnet terrain which makes it different.
I think we are going to fine, I look forward to hunting NLP this year
I have more faith in hunters of NLP, I bet some find as I have it's easier. You are correct in SLP we have more deer, and differnet terrain which makes it different.
I think we are going to fine, I look forward to hunting NLP this year
#14
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: Germ
Well being we cannot afford gas anymore the deer are safe[&:] I guess we should look behind 2008, a herd with CWD in the wild does no one any good.
I have more faith in hunters of NLP, I bet some find as I have it's easier. You are correct in SLP we have more deer, and differnet terrain which makes it different.
I think we are going to fine, I look forward to hunting NLP this year
Well being we cannot afford gas anymore the deer are safe[&:] I guess we should look behind 2008, a herd with CWD in the wild does no one any good.
I have more faith in hunters of NLP, I bet some find as I have it's easier. You are correct in SLP we have more deer, and differnet terrain which makes it different.
I think we are going to fine, I look forward to hunting NLP this year
#15
RE: Michigan Baiting
• Will things like salt blocks, mineral licks and attractants like C'Mere Deer be legal?
No. Anything that's designed to draw a deer to eat or lick it is banned. Attractant scents like doe urine and doe-in-estrus are legal.
No. Anything that's designed to draw a deer to eat or lick it is banned. Attractant scents like doe urine and doe-in-estrus are legal.
#16
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: DowningAir
Scott:
I've noticed that too. I was curious as to if they would do that or not. I walked into Wal Mart early this week to find that the shelves of attractants had been replaced. The same time last week there was a whole section full. Better safe then sorry I guess.
Scott:
I've noticed that too. I was curious as to if they would do that or not. I walked into Wal Mart early this week to find that the shelves of attractants had been replaced. The same time last week there was a whole section full. Better safe then sorry I guess.
#17
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: MichiganArcher
Amen on gas. It's sad when $3.65 is a deal. You have me intrigued when you say it's easier. When you're hunting the timber in northern MI with no bait what are your tactics? I may give it a try after all based on what you're saying. I agree CWD needs to go but 1 deer in a confined area and no others are infected. Something stinks in suburbia .
ORIGINAL: Germ
Well being we cannot afford gas anymore the deer are safe[&:] I guess we should look behind 2008, a herd with CWD in the wild does no one any good.
I have more faith in hunters of NLP, I bet some find as I have it's easier. You are correct in SLP we have more deer, and differnet terrain which makes it different.
I think we are going to fine, I look forward to hunting NLP this year
Well being we cannot afford gas anymore the deer are safe[&:] I guess we should look behind 2008, a herd with CWD in the wild does no one any good.
I have more faith in hunters of NLP, I bet some find as I have it's easier. You are correct in SLP we have more deer, and differnet terrain which makes it different.
I think we are going to fine, I look forward to hunting NLP this year
Here's what I do
I find beechnut or acorns that are dropping. I hunt a trail near there, as the deer move to the next area where mast crops are droping I move with them.
I also look for places with water and the access is hidden.
When I talk "easier" I am talking about shooting of the deer. I can remember my first deer tha came into my setup when I was 12. She looked at me entire time in the tree. Eat an apple, look in the tree, eat apple look in the tree. I ask my Dad and gramps, what is up with that? I never used it again in NLP.
I think a better way to state it, and I think you will agree.
With Bait easier to "find deer" harder to shoot
Without bait harder to find deer, easier to shoot because they are not on alert.
Here is the buck I will be hunting in NLP this fall. I walked a lot to find it This is a NLP buck
Now if my dipper as I call them are still there[&:] I have setup what some call scent traps/scrape traps. I have mock scrape/old scrapes I think he uses and have been keeping them fresh with sent since May. Will see if it works
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: West MI
Posts: 408
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: MichiganArcher
I've hunted 20 years in the northern lower and never came close to the same experience. It can be done but not with regularity.
I've hunted 20 years in the northern lower and never came close to the same experience. It can be done but not with regularity.
#19
RE: Michigan Baiting
Germ, I agree 100%. It's much easier to shoot a deer that is unsuspecting and every deer up there that comes into bait acts as though they're entering the firing squad. Keep me posted on the dipper, I'm interested. I tried a couple up there last year and had them ripped down by a big nasty bruin. He didn't like me.
Vito, I've seen lots of deer up there also, I'm talking within bow range. Up there I've sat for days and not had one pass within my 30 yard range and down here I don't sit a night without at least a doe if not a spike or small buck walking within range. Down here I hunt farm land fence rows and ditch banks where my cameras show me they are moving.
Vito, I've seen lots of deer up there also, I'm talking within bow range. Up there I've sat for days and not had one pass within my 30 yard range and down here I don't sit a night without at least a doe if not a spike or small buck walking within range. Down here I hunt farm land fence rows and ditch banks where my cameras show me they are moving.
#20
RE: Michigan Baiting
ORIGINAL: MichiganArcher
Germ, I agree 100%. It's much easier to shoot a deer that is unsuspecting and every deer up there that comes into bait acts as though they're entering the firing squad. Keep me posted on the dipper, I'm interested. I tried a couple up there last year and had them ripped down by a big nasty bruin. He didn't like me.
Vito, I've seen lots of deer up there also, I'm talking within bow range. Up there I've sat for days and not had one pass within my 30 yard range and down here I don't sit a night without at least a doe if not a spike or small buck walking within range. Down here I hunt farm land fence rows and ditch banks where my cameras show me they are moving.
Germ, I agree 100%. It's much easier to shoot a deer that is unsuspecting and every deer up there that comes into bait acts as though they're entering the firing squad. Keep me posted on the dipper, I'm interested. I tried a couple up there last year and had them ripped down by a big nasty bruin. He didn't like me.
Vito, I've seen lots of deer up there also, I'm talking within bow range. Up there I've sat for days and not had one pass within my 30 yard range and down here I don't sit a night without at least a doe if not a spike or small buck walking within range. Down here I hunt farm land fence rows and ditch banks where my cameras show me they are moving.
I also think hunting pressure has alot to do with it. Down here, I hunt a farm that gets hunted by at least 7 other guys, which sucks. Up north in the no bait zone, there aren't many bow hunters.