i understnad that everyone is sayin if he was a friend you wouldnt "kick" him off the ground.....think of it this way..if the other guy was a"GOOD" friend he would RESPECT his FRIENDS/LAND OWNER wishes... not say screw him im shootin what i want cause i can!!!!!!! its a double edged sword here!!!!!

Ok, first off, rules are rules. If the person who has access to the land sets rules than the guests need to follow them. If you don't like the rules than find somewhere else that doesn't have any rules.

Secondly, why does the friendship have to end because they don't hunt together?? I have a couple of good friends that do hunt but I won't ask them to hunt with me for various reasons. That doesn't stop us from getting together and hanging out. We even swap hunting stories all the time. If they are both mature adults than they won't let this end their friendship.

Read the rest of my post,if he agreed to it,then the friend isn't being a friend but it doesn't sound like a friendship to me.

I agree but there were some details left out in the original post.

If I asked a friend NOT to do something, and he defied my request, he is not a very good friend. If the lands in question are being run a certain way, and everyone agrees to abide by those rules, but one guy thinks he is above that agreement, then yes he should be kicked out or told not to hunt there.

Advise: Get it in writing. Also, if he is truely a friend, he wouldn't be breaking said agreements repeatedly. If he is truely a friend, I am sure that you gave him ample warning as you being a friend should have.If he is merely a member of your hunting group, then nothing lost except a rule breaker. I rarely hunt with or invite others to hunt with me, who are not friends or family. In the event that someone that I am not entirely familiar with is hunting with me, such as a friend of my brother, I make sure that they know what we are trying to do.



I concur.


[quote Thanks for all the input several things to think about. However, I stand my ground. We have a lot of property to hunt if we want to just blow off steam and take whatever walks. The last time we hunted, we chatted for the third or fourth time about our goals and what was expected on that particular farm. When I arrived to his stand he told me he got a buck and I was thrilled to think we had a good one down, but when I had to drag a yearling 4pt. out, needless to say that is not an honest mistake, that is blatent disregard to a request. ][/quote]

"Blow off steam and take whatever walks?" You don't really sound like the QDMA type.

"I was thrilled to......" Sounds like you are more upset that YOU were let down, not your herd.

Without writing a book on the subject, I 100% agree with GMMat and Ben/PA. Good job sticking to your rules Steelslinger!

I guess I'm not clear on what your definition of afriend is. I have found as I've gotten older the number of true friends I have is pretty low. Don't get me wrong I have plenty of buddies, pals, acquaintances, etc. If he were a true friend of mine then I absolutely wouldn't impose "my rules" orbeliefs on him, especially on something as trivial as deer "management". Consider the 1 or 2 deer he kills every season "road kill" and move on with your life and be happy for him, or kick him to the curb and give Bill Jordan a call.

Just think whenyou and your friend are sitting around after the season having a cold one and you say:

"Man my 150" 8 point sure looks good on the wall, but hey your 4 pointer I helped you drag was nice too, cough cough sarcasm cough." Then you can hit him with a few more friendly jabs about bambi and the deer still having milk on it's lips, and call him the Dink Decimater.

Man that would be funny, but oh yeah I forgot there is no friend sitting there with you......who cares you can still just stare at your stuffed deer head and feel good about it, right?

Steel I had the same problem with my land 2 years ago. 2 invited guest took 1.5 year old bucks after I told them over and over again not to. In the 2007 season I told 1 he was not welcome back and the other 1 I told him if he shoots a buck he has to get it mounted and if he doesn't want to mount it he has to pay me the cost of the mount. Or he will not be invited back.He listened and shot a nice 10 and all seems to be fine now. It makes people think a little harder when they have to spend $300 or more to shoot a deer.

when i invitefriends to hunt with me on my land, i make it perfectly clear that we have certain standards on what size bucks we shoot here. i'll usually show them pictures or mounts on my wall to show them the type of deer they should be waiting for, and friends that ignore these requests and blast away at small bucks are not invited back. i don't jump down their throat or end our friendship, i just help them find and drag out their deer, help them clean it, and send them on their way like nothing is wrong. but you can rest assured they won't be invited back.