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Old 08-25-2008 | 04:50 PM
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I know in kansas you can go after the animal. I would call the game warden if they gave me a hard time and I would get it back.

Babe should have tried harder to get it sounds like.

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Old 08-25-2008 | 07:33 PM
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I don't see the respect for the deer trumping respect for the landowner because I don't see it as disrespect for the landowner, buteveryone has their own opinion.It may be illegal to step 20 yards onto someone's land for one minute without permission to drag a deer you just arrowed 100 yards away off of it. But as bigcountry mentioned, so is going 5 miles over the speed limit. To me, it's a matter of using judgement. There is no black and white. No definitiely right and definitely wrong and therefore no certainty of respect and disrespect for that matter. There is legal and illegal but what's legal is not always right and respectful and what's illegal, not always wrong and disrespectful. Failing to realize this is why people become so passionate, upset and enraged when someone steps a foot over their property line and violates their God given property rights. I own a couple of properties and I like to protect them, but I'm also not going to have a heart attack every time there's an incident. I assess the situation, correct it and move on. I have yet to prosecute a trespasser but rather have resolved the issues through rational conversations with them.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:00 PM
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"Would you knowingly break the law to retrieve a DEER"?
Doyou knowingly break the law when you drive 10mph over the speed limit. Do you knowing break the law when you do not come to a complete stop at a stop sign? Everyone knowingly breaks the law every single day of their lives. So it find it a just little hypocirtical of anyone that would call the cops in a situation like this.

I would certainly step over the line a few yards to retreive a deer. Whoopty doo.... so Istepped30 or 40yards onto someones property to get a legally shot deer, someone bettercall the police. []The deer didn't lay there dead and rot and go completely to waste like it did in this scenario with Babe.Shame on the land owner!

If it ran aseveral hundred yards onto someone elses propertythen no, I would knock on the door and get permission.

PersonallyI don't see why any one would have a problem with a hunter doing this. If I were the land owner I may aproach them and ask what they are doing and if they are retreiving an animal they legally shot on their property and being respectful of my landI would help them load it in their truck.

I don't have the luxury of owning hundeds or thousandsof acres and Ilive in a subdivision.I don't look at this any differently than the neighbor on my left walking across my yard to go the neighbors house on my right. AmI gong rush out my door and tell them to walk around on the street or call the cops every time a neighborhood mom walks across my yard. Of course not, that would be absurd. I feel the same way about this situation in this thread.

I know ther are a lot of easy going land owners out therebut there are a bunch that need to just lighten up quite a bit. I didn't see the show but it sounds like the land owner in this show is one that needs to lighten up.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:03 PM
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I always ask and try to make accomodations beforehand, however in two instances I've had to trail deer a short ways on land without gaining permission. Not because I was turned down but because I could never get ahold of the landowner.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:26 PM
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If it was legal i would. and if they said no i would get the Game warden to see if they could do anything about it.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:34 PM
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Don't you have to trespass in order to get permission to retreive a downed deer? Aren't you breaking the lawsimply by driving or walking up the driveway? Did you have prior permission to walk up to the land owners house and knock on the door? Wouldn't the land owner be within his legal rights tofile trespassing charges as soon as your foot or tires touched his property.

I know that there are some states that allow the use of lethal force for trespassing on their property. I sure would hate to get shot because I was walking up someones driveway at night to ask for permission to get a deer.

See how stupid this could get with somone like this land owner?

Go get the deer and then you only have to break the law orrisk your lifeonce and at least it would be while you were getting the deer that you shot.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:40 PM
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"Would you knowingly break the law to retrieve a DEER"?
Doyou knowingly break the law when you drive 10mph over the speed limit. Do you knowing break the law when you do not come to a complete stop at a stop sign? Everyone knowingly breaks the law every single day of their lives. So it find it a just little hypocirtical of anyone that would call the cops in a situation like this.

I would certainly step over the line a few yards to retreive a deer. Whoopty doo.... so Istepped30 or 40yards onto someones property to get a legally shot deer, someone bettercall the police. []The deer didn't lay there dead and rot and go completely to waste like it did in this scenario with Babe.Shame on the land owner!

I know ther are a lot of easy going land owners out therebut there are a bunch that need to just lighten up quite a bit. I didn't see the show but it sounds like the land owner in this show is one that needs to lighten up.
Great post BB. You summed it up better than I could ever put it. In this type of situation, Landowners with the "Holy than thou art" attitude are the problem - not average Joe hunter just trying to do the right thing for the animal. I saw the show this morning and think he (Babe) did the right thing. They went over the property line a little bit took a look around - didn't see the deer. Went to get permission and got turned down. Nothing more he could do about it really. If I remember correctly the person that found the deer said it was another 100 plus yds from where Babe had last searched - meaning that the deer was probably a good 150 yds onto the property he tried to get permission to trek on.
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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:41 PM
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well it has been on here a few times. i think hunters need to respect peoples rights to say who can or can not cross there land. here you must get permisson. a guy told me if you call the dnr out they will more then likly tell the landowner to let you go get the deer with the dnr officer
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Old 08-25-2008 | 11:06 PM
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The "questionable" or "interpretation of the law"has been taken out of the scenario for you here, guys.

IT IS illegal in the scenario depicted. Now you just have to ask yourselves if a deer is worth you breaking the law for.

YES, because I chose to endthat animal's life, then I'm willing to go onto someone else's property to retrieve it, whether they like it or not. But at the same time, my land is open to anyone who shoots and animal and it runs and dies on my property. And whether that deer be a Boone & Crockett buck, or a 100# doe, I'm gonna go get it. That may sound "REDNECK" to you guys, but I have MORE RESPECT for that animal than some irrational JackHOLE that doesn't want me tracking an animal on his/her property, and I OWE that animal that respect for the decision I made in taking it's life.

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Old 08-25-2008 | 11:10 PM
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California you can retrieve it, as long as you are ecorted by a DFG officer (if you can get one there), other than that...No Trespassing is No Trespassing.
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