Taking a fawn for the freezer?
08-13-2008 | 09:14 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
Exactly
What you or anyone else thinks about why "I" or anyone else takes a legal deer.....interests me not.
I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by 
What you or anyone else thinks about why "I" or anyone else takes a legal deer.....interests me not.
08-13-2008 | 09:19 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
No one did, Tony. I answered your question. You asked (in an interrogative form...)...
I answered...."Exactly" (read - YES).
I then added that "I" OR ANYONE ELSE shouldn't need to worry about what anyone else thinks about why we take a legal deer.
Kinda goes back to the "shoot what you want" thing, doesn't it?
The deer (fawn) in question is taken legally. It serves a purpose.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
What the problem with this scenario?
I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by
I then added that "I" OR ANYONE ELSE shouldn't need to worry about what anyone else thinks about why we take a legal deer.
Kinda goes back to the "shoot what you want" thing, doesn't it?
The deer (fawn) in question is taken legally. It serves a purpose.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
What the problem with this scenario?
08-13-2008 | 09:20 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
Tony has no problem with anyone shooting a fawn. What ticks him off is someone taking one for the wrong reasons, I agree with the preacher!!! Tony could care less if it wasn't a fawn. The point he is making is shoot what makes you happy, not what gets you over the hump. Some people really over analyze stuff on here. Unbelievable!
08-13-2008 | 09:21 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: PreacherTony
I would advise against your advice .... you haven't cleared it up for me .. your reason makes no sense .... I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by there is no respect for the animal or the sport with that mentality
Like I said, if the kid WANTS to take a fawn for his first ..... GO FOR IT! I'll hoop and hollar with him!!!
To take it to put the initial notch in your belt is disgusting to me ....
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
I'll tell you why, Tony....
I've said it before.....you could build a Wal-Mart between "seeing/passing" on a deer and actually putting one on the ground. I waited and waited......"saw" and "passed".....and when the time came when I "thought" I was ready.....I found out I wasn't. There is NO substitute for putting a deer on the ground.....especially if you've never done it.
I'd advise anyone who's never shot a deer with their bow to take one at the earliest opportunity. Find out what it entails....before the one that you really want slips through your grasp becasue you were ill-prepared.
I never understood the mentality of "getting that first kill under your belt"
I've said it before.....you could build a Wal-Mart between "seeing/passing" on a deer and actually putting one on the ground. I waited and waited......"saw" and "passed".....and when the time came when I "thought" I was ready.....I found out I wasn't. There is NO substitute for putting a deer on the ground.....especially if you've never done it.
I'd advise anyone who's never shot a deer with their bow to take one at the earliest opportunity. Find out what it entails....before the one that you really want slips through your grasp becasue you were ill-prepared.
.... you haven't cleared it up for me .. your reason makes no sense .... I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by there is no respect for the animal or the sport with that mentality Like I said, if the kid WANTS to take a fawn for his first ..... GO FOR IT! I'll hoop and hollar with him!!!
To take it to put the initial notch in your belt is disgusting to me ....
To some the act of deer hunting is a treasured way to enjoy what the wooded world has to offer,sights ,sounds and even smells that can't be experienced any other way. The rewards make the sacrifices seem trivial.The memories made will last a life time,and can be shared with like minded folks around camp fires for generation.
To others it is a zero sum balance that comes for being blinded to all but the act of killing.
All to many fail to see the forest for the trees.
08-13-2008 | 09:29 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
To others it is a zero sum balance that comes for being blinded to all but the act of killing.
I think you all need to read this, again.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
There's no such thing in taking one for the wrong reason.....if the shooter has no regrets when he's finished. He needs to please/appease/answer to NO ONE except himself.
08-13-2008 | 09:46 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
When I was a young hunter there was nothing to hunt for but the pure enjoyment of being around family ,great friends and nature.
Now these young guys have E.A.B., A.R. and QDMA to contend with.The pressure to succeed must seem over whelming. We have one faction that believes if a deer is breathing airit shouldn't be if you can help it.And another group that believes if a deer hasn't seen three super bowl games he can't possibly be ready to die.[:-]
My first deer was a small four point and I remember it like it was yesterday,and all I am saying that first deer is a very important step in the making of a hunter,please take your time and measure your steps wisely.
Now these young guys have E.A.B., A.R. and QDMA to contend with.The pressure to succeed must seem over whelming. We have one faction that believes if a deer is breathing airit shouldn't be if you can help it.And another group that believes if a deer hasn't seen three super bowl games he can't possibly be ready to die.[:-]
My first deer was a small four point and I remember it like it was yesterday,and all I am saying that first deer is a very important step in the making of a hunter,please take your time and measure your steps wisely.
08-13-2008 | 09:50 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
No one did, Tony. I answered your question. You asked (in an interrogative form...)...
I answered...."Exactly" (read - YES).
I then added that "I" OR ANYONE ELSE shouldn't need to worry about what anyone else thinks about why we take a legal deer.
Kinda goes back to the "shoot what you want" thing, doesn't it?
The deer (fawn) in question is taken legally. It serves a purpose.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
What the problem with this scenario?
No one did, Tony. I answered your question. You asked (in an interrogative form...)...
I guess a lesser fawn can be the sacrificial lamb so he can be "ready" when the one he wants comes by
I then added that "I" OR ANYONE ELSE shouldn't need to worry about what anyone else thinks about why we take a legal deer.
Kinda goes back to the "shoot what you want" thing, doesn't it?
The deer (fawn) in question is taken legally. It serves a purpose.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
What the problem with this scenario?
08-13-2008 | 10:03 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
I really dont want my first kill to bea fawn. But Im shooting the first thing that walks by my stand.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
No conflict.
I gave you my personal experience, too. I BLEW the chance at what I wanted to be my first....because I was ill-equipped to handle what the experience entailed. Do I wish I'd taken one, earlier (regret NOT doing so)? Yep.
You canespouse all the "killer"....."don't love the woods" rhetoric you want. If a man can take a deer and have no regrets.....it's "personal" and what we "feel" about his decision is irrelevant. So....coming full circle....if he has no qualms in his first being a fawn.....my suggestion is for him to killthe first deer that giveshim an ethicalshot opportunity. I'm not ashamed of that advice. I wish someone hadgivenit to me.
And BTW....I've NEVER regretted killing one. I have regretted NOT killing one.
08-13-2008 | 10:04 AM
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RE: Taking a fawn for the freezer?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT
To which PT will readily admit that he ENJOYS the "killing" aspect of the "hunt". I actually don't. It's an integral part of the hunt, yes. Do I "enjoy" it? Nope.
To others it is a zero sum balance that comes for being blinded to all but the act of killing.
I would NEVER, EVER be a proponent of someone taking a deer they would , at the time, or subsequnetly "regret" taking. But the deer, as I said, would serve a purpose. It would also be taken legally.
If a man can take a deer....with no regrets.....stack 'em up, brother. There's no such thing in taking one for the wrong reason.....if the shooter has no regrets when he's finished. He needs to please/appease/answer to NO ONE except himself.
There's no such thing in taking one for the wrong reason.....if the shooter has no regrets when he's finished. He needs to please/appease/answer to NO ONE except himself.There IS such a thing as "the wrong reason"