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RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
I recommend that you sit him down and explain the entire situation without bias. Then, let him decide for himself with no expectation or prediction of his decision. If he makes the decision, it's a win-win situation regradless of his choice.
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RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
This post has gotten rediculous. Why do you have to come on a forum and ask a bunch of guys who you know are going to have different opinions on whether you should go on a hunt or not? This isyour decision and nobody elses. Either go or don't go. Your no less of a hunter/person if you go on one high fenced hunt. How many acres is this "pen" anyway? As usual, a post on this forum has ended in adebate.
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RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
ORIGINAL: robbcayman My dad always said this to me " Boy, if you are carrying a backpack I will let you carry it, but when you haveaboulder to deal withI will assist you." Hence, let your son make his own decisions, especially since it isn't that big ofone IMHO. |
RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
Jeff, I know you probably do not value my opinion much, but, my son is only 11 and has already made decisions concerning hunting that I did not care for. Did I argue with him? Nope. Did I try to force him? Nope. Will I ever? Nope.
Now, as far as presenting him with this type of offer (High Fence Hunt), I would not even bring it up for discussion. This, to me, it would be like bringing my son to a house of ill repute, and saying , "ok, it's legal and I'm buying, so get with it if you want to", and then expect him to go home and be satisfied from then on with the normal neighborhood girls. Now, honestly, do you think he would turn either down, unless you, as his father have an influence on his decision? ie., pointing out all the repercussions that either of the above scenarios can/will cause by offering them to him. Jmho LT |
RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
ORIGINAL: quiksilver I really don't see anything wrong with it. Let's face it:this canned deer hunt isn't going to be a life-altering event that leads the child into a downward spiral of drugs, prostitution and welfare. It's a deer hunt for goshsakes. He goes out and shoots a deer. So what? Maybe it's half-tame. Maybe it's not the "ideal" set of circumstances. Rarely in life are circumstances truly "ideal." Let's be real here. Look at it for what it is: A chance to go hang out with the boy and maybe bond a little bit. Maybe he gets one, maybe he doesn't. Maybe he backs off the trigger at the last second. Maybe he gets there and realizes right away that it's not for him. Making your own decisions is part of becoming an adult. By putting him in a situation to make a decision and live with it - you're giving him an opportunity to grow as a human. For the sake of argument, let's say thathe shootsa deer inside the pen, then feels a little bit of remorse about it later. This willeither re-affirm his zeal and desire to hunt truly "wild" game in the future. At worst, he may discover that hunting isn't for him.That's his decision to make. In sum, I don't think it will "make or break" him as a hunter. I think it will give him an opportunity to make his own choice as an independent adultand live with it. It will give him the opportunity to experience compassion for his quarry and maybe open his eyes to the brutal beauty ofour game. Hunting isn't all butterflies and rainbows, whether it's inside a fence or 100% fair chase. Part of being a hunter, and more importantly, an adult, is making your own choices with regard to setting a heading on your own moral compass. As a father and a guide, you can present the opportunity to find himself as a man and a hunter. All too often, hunters make a consciencious effort to try to get their family "into hunting"by putting them in a position to have a good time.Sooner or later, the honeymoon ends, andFather Time puts these people in a position where they fail. In hunting, you fail more often than you succeed. Some people just can't swallow failure, or lack the discipline to put in the actual effort necessary,so they just throw in the towel. I don't agree with that at all. I think you're setting them up for failure. Let people make their own decisions. You've said it before - hunting is very personal - and I agree 100%. Let him make the call. |
RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
Sooner....I missed your post the first time...but went back and caught it. Thanks.;)
Thanks Kwilson. I don't want anyone to think I'm gonna sugarcoat this. I won't offer up my personal prejudices UNLESS he asks me for my thoughts, specifically. GREAT advice, Kwilson....without bias. Why do you have to come on a forum and ask a bunch of guys who you know are going to have different opinions on whether you should go on a hunt or not? As usual, a post on this forum has ended in adebate. |
RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
I think it will give him an opportunity to make his own choice as an independent adultand live with it. I do not think an adult decision is made at that age. Yes, they may make decisions, but how many of them do they stick to later. Unless of course, the outcome sticks to them whether they like it or not. In the life of a 16 yr old, "my decision" is hardly always the right one. Why "allow" your son to make a decision that may bring remorse to him when you could prevent it. Life is already full of hard knocks. I try my best to keep my children from having to learn from hard knocks. Knowledge is better. LT |
RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
I had a good friend that took his teenage son on a canned hunt. The kid is now shacked up in San Francisco with a 40 year old Puerto Rican hairdresser named Mr. Rico. They are in the process of adopting an HIV+ Romanian orphan. The kid says that it was the canned hunt that made him decide to switch teams[:-]
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RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche I had a good friend that took his teenage son on a canned hunt. The kid is now shacked up in San Francisco with a 40 year old Puerto Rican hairdresser named Mr. Rico. They are in the process of adopting an HIV+ Romanian orphan. The kid says that it was the canned hunt that made him decide to switch teams[:-] |
RE: High Fence - Real Life Scenario
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche I had a good friend that took his teenage son on a canned hunt. The kid is now shacked up in San Francisco with a 40 year old Puerto Rican hairdresser named Mr. Rico. They are in the process of adopting an HIV+ Romanian orphan. The kid says that it was the canned hunt that made him decide to switch teams[:-] |
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