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PABuckbuster12 08-05-2008 01:04 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
Bruce Almighty. You got it partner! ;)I surely care not to ruin credibility with you. ;)Take care buds

nctaxi 08-05-2008 01:05 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
I don't think anyone here said there weren't any cougars in PA but I don't believe that the PAGC released them. I hear it all the time here, from the NCWC releasing coyotes, to cougars, to my personal favorite "dropping rattlesnakes from helicopters into state parks". I don't doubt that there are cougars here in NC, I've seen tracks that I could only identify as cougar but if you listen to how insane it sounds that they are released. Think about the amount of time and money you are talking about? It's not like you can run down to the local CougarMart and by a dozen of them.....

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:07 PM
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ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Bruce Almighty. You got it partner! ;)I surely care not to ruin credibility with you. ;)Take care buds
Oops...too late ;).

PABuckbuster12 08-05-2008 01:07 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
Understood, I may be out of line a lil about the GC releasing them. That is yet to be proven. But it is a fact they are here. I dont appreciate someone trying to make an ass out of me for something i seen with my own eyes. Thats going to get me a lil ticked off! Guess time will tell what they figure out.

GMMAT 08-05-2008 01:09 PM
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When it all goes down give me a shout ill be the guy wearing the I told you so shirt!
I think Jim Jones had one of these shirts.....[8D]

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:10 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Understood, I may be out of line a lil about the GC releasing them. That is yet to be proven.
LOL
ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

I dont appreciate someone trying to make an ass out of me for something i seen with my own eyes.
You're doing that all on your own, pal ;)

PABuckbuster12 08-05-2008 01:12 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
Bruce if you have a personal problem with me, please get in touch with me i'd be glad to iron that right out for you! if you have something to say thats intelligent about my original post have at it! Until then you ought to shut your mouth and keep on track.

fletch920 08-05-2008 01:19 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
PA,how can you prove that your friends dead cougar was released by the state? It couldnt have been an escaped/released pet or a migrant? The other article you linked to your post is nothing more than another man's opinion.Dont believe everything you read,you have to be able to think for yourself. Also, the amish cougar had a state ear tag? Proof please. Not likely.Think about what you are saying man. You claim it is a big conspiracy and a cover-up that the state released a pair of cougars in each 6 county area, but first, they put ear tags in them!!!!Put down the cool-aide and give up on the return of Hale-Bop dude. Iowa has had a few cougars sighted and even hit by cars and a couple shot. Does that mean the state released them? No, but we have a few folks like yourself that will swear to it. Always someone saying they know it for a fact but can never come up with any substance to their belief. If a state wants fewer deer, that is very easy, more tags and liberal seasons can put a herd in check in one or two years.By the way, dont bother buying your tags for this Fall, the world is coming to an end on Thursday. At least thats what somebody told me.

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:19 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Bruce if you have a personal problem with me, please get in touch with me i'd be glad to iron that right out for you! if you have something to say thats intelligent about my original post have at it! Until then you ought to shut your mouth and keep on track.
If anyone should take a minute and shut their mouth you may want to consider it. You are the one that claimed PGC was releasing cougars, not anyone else. You took things off track when you made up that little bit about PGC releasing them. But now, I should just shut my mouth because I pointed these things out? Don't make up a bunch of credibility damaging BS and you may not have some of these problems.

Anyway. I like posting here so forgive me if I don't take you up on your advice ;).

PABuckbuster12 08-05-2008 01:26 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Understood, I may be out of line a lil about the GC releasing them. That is yet to be proven. But it is a fact they are here.
I retracted that statement, my personal belief is they have something to do with it or did at one time. My main point of this thread is the group who is calling themselves professional hunters, and are feeding people a bunch of crap. We then got on the deer population topic. I mention its not good to believe everything the GC says, and state an example of them saying there isnt any big cats roaming PA, and I've personally seen one. And now we get into a huge fued of this and that. Give me your opinions on the original topic. And let me know how or if any other groups are doing similiar in your area and if you agree.

Bruce I will note you think there are not "cougars" in PA. So you dont feel the need to try and act Tommy Tougnuts and say their arent. Now can we go back on topic or let this die.

GMMAT 08-05-2008 01:29 PM
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Put down the cool-aide
Jim Jones did NOT have one of THOSE shirts;)

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:30 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Understood, I may be out of line a lil about the GC releasing them. That is yet to be proven. But it is a fact they are here.
I retracted that statement, my personal belief is they have something to do with it or did at one time. My main point of this thread is the group who is calling themselves professional hunters, and are feeding people a bunch of crap. We then got on the deer population topic. I mention its not good to believe everything the GC says, and state an example of them saying there isnt any big cats roaming PA, and I've personally seen one. And now we get into a huge fued of this and that. Give me your opinions on the original topic. And let me know how or if any other groups are doing similiar in your area and if you agree.

Bruce I will note you think there are not "cougars" in PA. So you dont feel the need to try and act Tommy Tougnuts and say their arent. Now can we go back on topic or let this die.
Actually, I think there are cougars in PA so you stop stop acting like Whining Willie and get on with your conversation ;)

PABuckbuster12 08-05-2008 01:34 PM
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Whining WIllie is my cousin. Im Harry Feltersnatch. Thanks Bruce!

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

Whining WIllie is my cousin. Im Harry Feltersnatch. Thanks Bruce!
Must be a kissing cousin ;). You're welcome.

GMMAT 08-05-2008 01:40 PM
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PA has cougars.....we think.
Rubbin's Racin'......and Deer exterminatin's 'huntin".....we think.
Jim Jones never wore a "Put down the Kool-Aid" shirt......far as we know.
Bruce is a poopy-head.

Did that about cover it?:)

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:41 PM
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At least we didn't get any sack riders in this thread..........I think ;)

GMMAT 08-05-2008 01:42 PM
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Good point.;)

Carry on.

fletch920 08-05-2008 01:43 PM
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I have a bigfoot in my freezer. No eartag.

brucelanthier 08-05-2008 01:45 PM
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Probably wasn't released by the PGC then.

fletch920 08-05-2008 01:47 PM
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I bet it was!

fletch920 08-05-2008 01:49 PM
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My mother was abducted by aliens and I'm the spawn. No eartag.

mr4pt 08-05-2008 01:57 PM
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That's because aliens don't use eartags. Spawn of aliens are marked with a small transmitter in their belly button....at least that's the way they marked me.

Cougars in Pa........Pffffffffft

RobinAim Low 08-05-2008 02:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: superstrutter

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

We are not talking about bowhunting here at all. These guys are hired to kill deer, whatever methods they use. Do you honestly think shooting some deer at night under bait is ethical? These guys kill many of these deer at night, not in a blind or stand with a bow. This has absolutely nothing to do with suburban bowhunting. This is legalized POACHING.
Was this info on their site? I gotta go back and look, again.
I don't know if it was on their site or not. Everyone knows that these guys who are hired to exterminate deer do most of it at night when everyone is sleeping. I read an article in a magazine where hired deer snipers killed over 100 deer in a few nights. All done at night. I promise you, these guys don't do most of their killing during daylight hours. If anyone on this site thinks this is ethical, then you need some serious help. These guys are hired killers, not hunters.
Where are you getting this nonsense? Specifically, what in the world makes you think this group of guys are killing deer with bait at night, or are hired snipers?

early in 08-05-2008 02:24 PM
RE: Deer exterminators!!!???
 
ORIGINAL: RobinAim Low

ORIGINAL: superstrutter

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

We are not talking about bowhunting here at all. These guys are hired to kill deer, whatever methods they use. Do you honestly think shooting some deer at night under bait is ethical? These guys kill many of these deer at night, not in a blind or stand with a bow. This has absolutely nothing to do with suburban bowhunting. This is legalized POACHING.
Was this info on their site? I gotta go back and look, again.
I don't know if it was on their site or not. Everyone knows that these guys who are hired to exterminate deer do most of it at night when everyone is sleeping. I read an article in a magazine where hired deer snipers killed over 100 deer in a few nights. All done at night. I promise you, these guys don't do most of their killing during daylight hours. If anyone on this site thinks this is ethical, then you need some serious help. These guys are hired killers, not hunters.
Where are you getting this nonsense? Specifically, what in the world makes you think this group of guys are killing deer with bait at night, or are hired snipers?
The group of guys that do this, at least in my area (near Tyler), are strictly bowhunters. That's the only reason they are able togain access to these properties. These folks don't like gun hunting at all!

GMMAT 08-05-2008 02:38 PM
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The group of guys that do this, at least in my area (near Tyler), are strictly bowhunters. That's the only reason they are able togain access to these properties. These folks don't like gun hunting at all!
Ditto here.

If you read the webpage....they mention bowhunting....but I'm not sure they do mention gun hunting.

DougE 08-05-2008 03:30 PM
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Wow,lot's of insanity.First of all,the original thread was about two different things.One,groups trying to call themselves professionals.These guys are doing what they have to do to get on to land that has very limited access.Cheesy?Maybe,but not illiegaland they must obey all laws.They also don't get depredation permits to use whenever,because Pa doesn't have such a thing.

The second topic was hired sharpshooters.In many cases,hunters simply can't get the job done do to a variety of reasons.In this case,they can apply to have shapshooters come in and kill deer.This is done at night,over bait and usually with the use of a silenced rifle.This is population control.Don't confuse it with hunting and don't confuse it with what local bowhunting organizations are doing.

There are many many areas of Pa that had way too many deer for way too long.The evidence is overwhelming and indisputable.

The PGC never released any mountain lions?Why not?They would lose their Pittman Robertson funds is they did so.No state is that stupid and no state would put a tag or tatoo on an animal as to guarantee they got caught.That's pure B.S.If pa has mountain lions,they know how to fly because they never make any tracks.A dozen mountain lions would certainly make tracks.Sorry,but the story is B.S and the person that started it is a liar.

This thread was filled with 11 pages of mistruths and nonsense.

nctaxi 08-05-2008 07:42 PM
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Doug - so you're saying that in the thousands and thousand of game lands, there couldn't be 2 mountain lions? I know that in NC, even less probable, but I have seen cat tracks almost as big as my hand. And I do trap, hunt do taxidermy, etc so Iknow what a cat track looks like. Big bobcat? Maybe but it would be huge.Heck there are tons of people who don't know we have coyotes.

sandilands 08-05-2008 08:17 PM
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I'm not getting in on this one[X(]:eek::eek:

fastetti 08-06-2008 09:55 AM
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I think a big reason this group exists and can do what they do is because of the gentleman named Walter on there. Your organization goes a lot farther when you have the police at your back. It goes as far as you want it to when you are the Chief of Police! Its a good idea though, does anybody want to start the Northern Illinois Deer management group with me!!

Oh ya, There was a mountain lion shot by my place in downtown Chicago last year. No ear tag, but Chicago may be letting them loose. There is enough of the two legged cougars running around down around here!!:D Except I bait them in with dinner and Cosmopolitans!

jmbuckhunter 08-06-2008 11:31 AM
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I've had people in my subdivision ask me to do the same service as this group is offering. The deer were eating the flowers right out of their pots.

I was more than happy to volunteer my services free of charge.:D

HuntingBry 08-06-2008 12:59 PM
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ORIGINAL: DougE

Wow,lot's of insanity.First of all,the original thread was about two different things.One,groups trying to call themselves professionals.These guys are doing what they have to do to get on to land that has very limited access.Cheesy?Maybe,but not illiegaland they must obey all laws.They also don't get depredation permits to use whenever,because Pa doesn't have such a thing.

The second topic was hired sharpshooters.In many cases,hunters simply can't get the job done do to a variety of reasons.In this case,they can apply to have shapshooters come in and kill deer.This is done at night,over bait and usually with the use of a silenced rifle.This is population control.Don't confuse it with hunting and don't confuse it with what local bowhunting organizations are doing.

There are many many areas of Pa that had way too many deer for way too long.The evidence is overwhelming and indisputable.

The PGC never released any mountain lions?Why not?They would lose their Pittman Robertson funds is they did so.No state is that stupid and no state would put a tag or tatoo on an animal as to guarantee they got caught.That's pure B.S.If pa has mountain lions,they know how to fly because they never make any tracks.A dozen mountain lions would certainly make tracks.Sorry,but the story is B.S and the person that started it is a liar.

This thread was filled with 11 pages of mistruths and nonsense.

Wow, I'm glad we have you around since you know everything about everything.

Since you are so wise, what is the meaning of life?

BTW, with your post you can add "know-it-all conjecture" to the list including mistruths and nonsense.

DougE 08-06-2008 03:20 PM
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NCTAXI,While no evidence of mountain lions exist in Pa,I imagineit wouldn't be out of line for someeco-extremeist to let one go from time to time.That doesn't constitute a breeding population and it definately doesn't mean the PGC let any go.Once again that would jeopardize their P-R funds.They never released mountain lions in pa and anyone that says they did is a flat out liar.Show me some evidence that they exist and better yet lets see some evidence that the PGC is behind it.

DougE 08-06-2008 03:22 PM
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huntingbry,back up your comments with some facts.


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