ORIGINAL: rybohunter

Proper age structure for the way a deer herd is meant to me made up. (numbers just guessed, may not be exactly correct)

Which seems more healthy to you?

50% 1.5's
30% 2.5's
10% 3.5's
10% 4.5+

85% 1.5's
10% 2.5's
5% 3.5+

ORIGINAL: rybohunter

I'm sure the age structure of the does is just fine, since we don't attpempt to shoot 80% of the existing does each season.

ORIGINAL: early in

You wouldn't be telling anybody anything. It's a matter of the LAW telling us what we will be shooting or not be shooting. Reguardless of what we think/believe, all we have to worry about is following the LAW.
As far as AR go, I personally think it's the very best thing the PGC has done in aLONG time! I'm seeing more bigger bucks than ever before, no doubt.This gives our bucks a chance to live past 1 1/2.What needs to happen now,is for them to "close" antlerlessseason in some "counties", andlower the number of available tags in others. This doe situation needs a lot more attention than it's getting. It seems to be too across the board/broad. Attention needs to be paidmore onspecific area's. Counties, not whole WMU's.JMHO

ORIGINAL: PABuckbuster12

NOPE! Thank you Preach for summarizing this entire thread. You hit the nail on the head. Lets all say a prayer for PA.

Preach thank you for restoring order you may want to take a look at the exterminator thread. Some may need some order, including myself soon[:@]

ORIGINAL: PreacherTony

Don't you HATE how Bawana ignores questions sometimes?[:@][:-]

ORIGINAL: AK in PA

I loathe them in Pennsylvania. I never have been, nor never will be hung up on antler size. PA has had point restrictions for several years. Upon initial discussion, I honestly didn't think they would affect my own hunting and almost didn't care one way or the other if the regulation was passed. Now, I can see that I was wrong. During the same period as the antler restriction inaugauration, Pennsylvania's game commission went on a crusade to reduce the deer population, under the pretense of increasing the average antler size. Funny now, how I don't see the bigger bucks, let alone the number of deer that I once did. (Formerly, if I so much as bumped a deer heading in or coming out in the dark I considered myself lucky. I neverdid see the "herds" of deerthat the game commission claimed. Last season, I went 15 days straight without ANY encounter or sighting to even know whitetails still existed.) The bucks that I do see are smaller than before, and I feel like such an @ss staring at one throught binoculars at 5 or 10 yds trying to count their points and make sure they are all an inch long. I don't care what it is. After 20 yrs of hunting, I'd still be thrilled to shoot it! But, I abide them, and ifI can't be certain, I let them walk, albeit shaking my head in disgust the entire time...

I don't see what theso called "QDM" buzzis about. WHAT is the point of shooting a deer with large antlers if ALL the deer have been cultivated to produce such? Where's the trophy?!!! Even if some hunters only want to kill "big" deer, "big" is still relative to the region.

ORIGINAL: bawanajim

Look here no show ,[:-]I just got in from mowing two acres of clover. Some of us have jobs.