Hey guys ! I had to come on here and post about a blind a LOT of us on here have praised - including me. I can say with out a doubt I USED to love the things... now I truely believe they are VERY full of issues. Mainly the frame. Guys - I have been posting on here a long time and hope this post is not taken wrong. My intention is to bring to light the reality of a product that was looked to be almost as good as it gets... but fails miserably in the long run.... let me explain why.
Everything they claim is true - set up speed, stealth, weather proofing - you name it - its a GREAT blind as far as that goes.....it really is. Here is the problem - and what in my opinion now makes the thing worthless.... The frame breaks - and it breaks EASY - WAY TOO EASY guys. I can set it up as fast and easy as the promo- video shows - heck I could work for DB... but the fiberglass extruded rods they are building frames with simply do not hold up - How do I know ? I bought 3 of them now - the last one because I was headed to Indiana, and BD had my blind -FIXING THE FRAME - so I bought ANOTHER... guess what ? The new one was used 3 times and frame broke... I called them and spoke to them about it MANY times, and was given promises they never kept...
Anyway - Im not AT ALL trying to trash DB, or the 2 owners- I am simply saying if you are buying one, beware in a major way your frame is going to break, more than once- I do not care how careful you are.... I can set it up as good as anyone, and trust me - they break. Its a great product ruined by an inferior component, kinda like a great car with a bad transmission....

If your wondering why I posted this it is because it is a 400 dollar blind that gets a lot of talk on here and everywhere but no one seems to be telling the truth 'behind the blind'

They will send out a new replacement in a second and or ask you to return the whole blind.... YES they fix it - thats not the problem... it is you should ask them for 10 replacements to go with the blind...

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I've got a good friend who had some breakage issues.....but mine was purchased in 2005.....and it's performed, flawlessly.

Again....sorry you have had issues.

We use a Matrix anda Dark Horse and even have an older T5, I have set these blinds up hundreds of times and have never had any sort of breakage issues? Are you sure you know how to set them up properly? There are obviously ways to collaspe the blind that could cause this issue. Perhaps you should slow down a bit while you taking them down. There are simply FAR to many hunters on this forum and many, many other forumsthat use these blinds regularlyand have NEVER experienced any of your issues.

IF you have actually had problems with all 3 of the blinds that you've owned than I would have to believe that it's YOU that's the problem. There simply must be something you're doing wrong here? [&:]

Cornfed...

Hey, I know there are a LOT of people happy. If you read through my post you can see I used to be also - heck I sold 20 of the things trust me just talking about them ! I set up carefully, not too fast, I do it just as it is supposed to be done...just like the video. I am 44 years old, grew up in the outdoors (in Illinois) so it's "not my first rodeo" =) I just opened my blind thin morning, popped it open to 'air it out' and snap.... one of the ceiling rods was severed right at the ball joint - the same spot all the rods I have ever seen break. I have friends in Danville, Ill, Catlin Ill, Perrysville, IN that all have this blind, and ALL of them have same issues... it is not me my bow hunting friend. I called and spoke to them on MANY occasions , and very candid, over the issue I had with the first one I had bought, even then I got another, then another.... I bought the one I have now because DB had the 2nd one - fixing it and had it over a month after they promised to get it home to me ASAP.... heck I shipped it FEDEX ! But opening the blind this morning in my back yard was a true wakeup call... thats all.... I was in no hurry, just popped it open and the rod broke (or perhaps was already broken)

I would agree it was me had I not told THE SAME thing to a buddy that had his break.... I think it may be a rod tension issue ?? as they age they 'pop' open easier I noticed.... maybe the tension strings need to be a little 'looser' Im not sure.... I just know my experiance - If I was roughing trhe blind up - Id NEVER post THEY had problems... Id say I messed up 3 blinds.... I loved this blind till now !

How do you transport and store it?

Just a thought.

I transport it and store it in the provided cloth slip over bag it comes with. I put it in a plastic bag, and put it in my back seat.... its a 400 dollar blind- I wouldnt throw it around....

Just understand where I'm coming from

I used to be in the golf industry and replaced graphite golf shafts with regularity (steel, too,....and sometimes the "issues" were related). MANY times the culprit was how the clubs were stored (things stacked up on them in the trunk of cars). I was actually playing with a guy one day......and he hits abad shot.....and takes his club and slams it into his golf bag.

The next week he wants the mfr. to replace his graphite shaft in his driver. Yeah.....right.

I was ONLY wondering if it was transported or stored with anything on top of it.....or anyone that used it might have done/be doing this (to help ease your mind).

If you're not doing these things....and no one else is.....disregard

Does your vehicle sit in the sun for prolonged amounts of time? Ahhhh dont iknow what to tell ya, you are the first I have ever heard of having issues like that.

I have 2- T2's, 2- Matrix Blinds, & 1-Dark Horse. I had one issue with the Matrix, but it was taken care of promptly.

The new Dark Horse has reinforcing on the rods where I had the problem with one. It seems they are looking to fix any issue they might have encountered.

Over all DB's have performed flawlessly!! I have owned 4 different brands of ground blinds, but all I own currently for my own personal use are Double Bulls.

They are heads above anything else out there in features and overall Durability.

Dan

And now of course, DB sold to Primos, so you can't buy the DB Matrix any more. It's now the DB Primos Dark horse.

The only DB blind that we hadunrepairable "failer" on was one that we left sit out in the weather for a little over a year, the sun, the wind, and who know's what all, weren't freindly to it. Gee, what a surprise[&:]We simply forgot about it, until it was too late.

We have "kits" that include the little swivel ball and new end caps for rods, incase we break any. You gotta be sure that you don't have the blind set up with excessively tight walls, and you need to make sure that the the "stress" or load is equal on all 4 corners of the blind.

I see in my latest Bass Pro flie that they are selling the Primos "Vision" blind for $149.88. It comes with Predator All-purpose deception camo. Looks like it is also built around the DB concept.