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RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy I'm going to be on vacation. |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
It's gonna be so damn hot, I'm glad it's on a big lake Take plenty of pics!![8D] |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
Took about 3 minutes to come up with these facts.
NC has about 11,000 bears.......confined to two different areas on opposite ends of the state. MN has about 30,000 bears....confined to the NE portion of the state. In the next two minutes of info gathering.....I read a little more into the DNR page. I didn't see anywhere in there where they talked about how difficult it might be to kill one of these bears without bait. BUT....I did run across this snippet, there, that "might" shed a little more light on why bear baiting is legal and utilized (which I have NO PROBLEM with). This sounds a LOT like why we can bait deer, here in NC;) The DNR has made three direct estimates of bear numbers in the state. The first, in 1991, placed the number between 14,000 and 17,000. The next, in 1997, yielded a higher but wider population range: 19,000 to 30,000. While DNR wildlife researchers interpreted these results as highly indicative of a population increase, the actual amount of increase was uncertain. Some computer modeling projections, though, suggested the population might well exceed 30,000 by the year 2000. When the media heard about the 1997 estimate and computer projections, they focused on the 30,000 value. Newspaper and radio reports depicted a bear population fast growing out of control. So it wouldn't be too much ofa stretch, given the fact that bear baiting in NC (and other states) isn't legal, to find a double standard exists in some people's minds. |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: GMMAT Took about 3 minutes to come up with these facts. NC has about 11,000 bears.......confined to two different areas on opposite ends of the state. MN has about 30,000 bears....confined to the NE portion of the state. In the next two minutes of info gathering.....I read a little more into the DNR page. I didn't see anywhere in there where they talked about how difficult it might be to kill one of these bears without bait. BUT....I did run across this snippet, there, that "might" shed a little more light on why bear baiting is legal and utilized (which I have NO PROBLEM with). This sounds a LOT like why we can bait deer, here in NC;) The DNR has made three direct estimates of bear numbers in the state. The first, in 1991, placed the number between 14,000 and 17,000. The next, in 1997, yielded a higher but wider population range: 19,000 to 30,000. While DNR wildlife researchers interpreted these results as highly indicative of a population increase, the actual amount of increase was uncertain. Some computer modeling projections, though, suggested the population might well exceed 30,000 by the year 2000. When the media heard about the 1997 estimate and computer projections, they focused on the 30,000 value. Newspaper and radio reports depicted a bear population fast growing out of control. So it wouldn't be too much ofa stretch, given the fact that bear baiting in NC (and other states) isn't legal, to find a double standard exists in some people's minds. |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: Schultzy ORIGINAL: GMMAT Took about 3 minutes to come up with these facts. NC has about 11,000 bears.......confined to two different areas on opposite ends of the state. MN has about 30,000 bears....confined to the NE portion of the state. In the next two minutes of info gathering.....I read a little more into the DNR page. I didn't see anywhere in there where they talked about how difficult it might be to kill one of these bears without bait. BUT....I did run across this snippet, there, that "might" shed a little more light on why bear baiting is legal and utilized (which I have NO PROBLEM with). This sounds a LOT like why we can bait deer, here in NC;) The DNR has made three direct estimates of bear numbers in the state. The first, in 1991, placed the number between 14,000 and 17,000. The next, in 1997, yielded a higher but wider population range: 19,000 to 30,000. While DNR wildlife researchers interpreted these results as highly indicative of a population increase, the actual amount of increase was uncertain. Some computer modeling projections, though, suggested the population might well exceed 30,000 by the year 2000. When the media heard about the 1997 estimate and computer projections, they focused on the 30,000 value. Newspaper and radio reports depicted a bear population fast growing out of control. So it wouldn't be too much ofa stretch, given the fact that bear baiting in NC (and other states) isn't legal, to find a double standard exists in some people's minds. |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
Threads like this always remind me of what Burt Reynolds told Sally Fields in the movie "Smokey and the Bandit"...:D
Just before she told him to "Take your hat off"....;) |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
Are Deer/Bear populations where baiting is legal on the Decline?
Some would have you think that's the sole object of baiting;) In areas I've Bear hunted with Bait all it takes is common sense to know why they do it. Hunters do need a chance, Otherwise Bear hunting where I have would be about like playing the Lottery. Very little chance to score!:D Dan |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
ORIGINAL: nchawkeye Threads like this always remind me of what Burt Reynolds told Sally Fields in the movie "Smokey and the Bandit"...:D Just before she told him to "Take your hat off"....;) Dan |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
The answer to your question (is it a double standard) is not in what is legal or not in your state.....but how you view each. WHY wouldn't you bait deer? Answer that and you'll go a long way to answering your own question. If you think baiting deer is unethical, yet think bear baiting ISN'T ..........then I'd say a double standard existed. |
RE: Bear Baiting, a "Double Standard"?
http://huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=2721926&mpage=1&key=baiting%2cde er&#2721926
This was interesting to find, also. When people baiting bears have a negative connotation (as to the practice or the "need" to do so)re: baiting deer......isn't that the DEFINITION of a double standard? |
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