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With those tags in there ears, they are about as exciting to look at as cows. Give mea few hundred acres, some 12 ft fences and a few deer with good genetics, I probably could do the same thing. Waste of a deer that someone is just going to pay upwards of 20K to kill (notice I say Kill and not Hunt)

RE: OMG Look at these bucks
 

No high fence for me but still fun to see.

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While I do think those deer probably have great genetics, their diet, low stress enviornment, and year round care probably has a little more to do with thier racks than anything else. Turn one of them loose wherever you want, they would probably starve to death if the food wasn't dumped in a trough in front of them. They are deer science projects at best I don't think releasing one in my woods would help the quality of my bucks much,howevermy woodswouldgreatly effect the qualiy of the deer that was dropped off.

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Nope,guard railsdon't even constitute a low fence.;)

I'm not against deer farms at all, many of them sell to outfitters that offer free range hunts. Besides it's still amazing to see that caliber of deer, even if there is genetic influences and superfeeding.

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RE: OMG Look at these bucks
 

My grandpa and I run a deer farm to study deer and there behavior in the wild and in captivity. Its fun to watch them grow up and get bigger racks

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I also heard somewhere that they cut the deers rack while in velvet to make more points. Is there any truth to this?

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I don't know about that, my brother in law gets nervous if hid deer just walk along the fence line. Hes worried that they will damage the rack. Also there is more money in typicals that are massive than in non-typicals of the same size so I would think adding more points wouldn't be so desirable. There will only be so much growth and most antler farmers want tall tines not a bunch of smaller ones.

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Bry, can you clarify this statement for me?

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I have talked to several outfitters in the midwest at trade showsthat said theyhave bought straws from operations like this. They said they will have their biologist tranqulize and inseminate as many does as they can from their property. My first question was if it was worth it considering the doe could be killed before giving birth, there could be fawn mortality, the offspring could be a doe, the offspring could displace to another property, etc. all due to being a non-fenced operation. They said that if they inseminate enough the genetics would be there making it worth the risk to improve the genetics of the herd.

Granted I talk to hundreds of outfitters at these shows and maybe 2 or 3 have said they have done this and the ones that do are extremely expensive, but it does exist from what I've been told.