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No offense, but farm raised deer just don't do anything for me. Thanks for sharing them though.:)

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A hunting farm. Wonder how tall the fences are and how small the pens are on that one. Nothing wrong with it, if that's what trips your trigger, but to me if they're penned in, it wouldn't be hunting.

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Germ, pick up a copy of Whitetails HEARTBEAT of America its a Deer Farming magazine. UNREAL! Some of the bucks in there are crazy. And what these so called hunters from the big cities pay to shoot them will make you throw up!

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Have to admit, those 1.5 are big:D

I think they are all on the juice, they should name them after baseball players

Barry Bonds
Big Mack
Sammy Sosa

;)

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I say we pitch in and buy one to release in PA, let him breed a bit than move him to another state[8D]

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OK Germ, you buy one and I'll drive up to get it. I'll have it to you w/i a couple of years because of road construction I'll have to drive through Iowa to get there. Once I get home, I mean while in route to PA, I'll have to stop for a night's rest and undoubtedly he'll not listen to me when I tell him "stay in the yard tonight and get a good rest because we have to be on the way to Germ bright and early tomorrow" and I'll have to take a couple years to find him again. But don't worry, I'll get him to you in due time.

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Wow, obviously im not a big fan of the pen raised deer for hunting purposes, but they are still fun to look at!:D

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I've got a client that runs a high fence operation in OH.

He's had 200" 1.5yr olds.

That just ain't right....[&:]

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Those deer have been eating steroids for breakfast, lunch and dinner.;)

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There are I think like 50 deer farms in PA, and their fences get knocked down all the time from outlaws, storms and trees etc. A kid shot a monster in the Poconos last year that was a farm raised deer, and guess what, they accepted it for scoring etc. 190+" I believe. I'd rather hunt one for real not in a fence.

Theres a farm in Emporium, PA (friend of mine) who I know for a fact his fence got knocked down last year and something like 35 deer got out. The game commission fined him something like 250 a deer. He then asked if he was allowd to go dart them to get them back. The game commission told him once they are out of your pen they belong to game commission. This farmer then asked if one of those deer kills someone in a car accident, and has my tags in its ear, whos liable. The game commission told him he is(the farmer). But the farmer argued now you just told me they are your deer now. Funny how the system works.

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Are you kidding? That deer would never make it to breeding season. He'd be in the back of a pickup first night out in a field.

It's amazing how big some of those 1.5 and 2.5s are. Strict genetic control, enhanced diet and mineral supplementation, some special "viatamins", and you've got yourself a super buck. I wouldn't "hunt" one, but they are fun to look at.

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Let it be none I am 100% against what they are doing, but this is America.

They said their goal is to have the first 500'' buck[&:]

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I don't wanna hunt 'em either. I turned down the opportunity to go shoot a 150" "cull" buck from this farm.

I can't imagine. I almost went.....just to look......but didn't think my heart could take it.

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Being the sell them you would not have to turn it down. From the looks of them 150'' buck is a 1.5 or 2.5 year old buck.

I think the sell them to game ranches Jeff

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I am against hunting them as well. I would never hunt something that wasnt fair chase. Thats not hunting, thats killing. However, I do know several deer farmers, and I do know this is their lively hood and how they make a living. Not all these farms hunt their deer. Semen straws go anywhere from 500-10,000 dollars a straw! Thats how they utilize the genetics etc. I cant bash them for making a living farming, but I would never hunt in a fence.

Huntingbry : Unless you consider the guard rail along 422 in Limerick a fence ;)

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It was a free hunt, Gary.

If you're growing 200" 1.5 yr olds.....a 150" wouldn't raise your pulse......but I'm betting they get good money for them from paying customers.

Put it on a man's wall......and who (gen. public) would ask?

Doesn't matter. I'd know. I wouldn't trade the 7-pointer I shot as my first....that went 70" or so.....for any of them.

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I gotcha;) I thought we were talking about the deer in the thread[8D]

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Wow, I wonder what they shoot them up with.All of that 1.5 year old livestockare bigger than the average wild 2.5 year old here - and we have as good genetics as anywhere.

Amazing. But in the end, its just livestock. Been doing that type of thing with cattle for years.

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Agreed!

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No difference, to me.

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they gotta be feedin them somthing crazy!

the 1.5's have bigger racks than deer here that I KNOW are 4.5's!

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Genetics, Genetics, minerals, corn, they dont shoot them up with anything. Just specific breeding etc.

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Hunting pen raised deer is all about ....... you guessed it ........the "L" word :D

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Sad.[:-]

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I would never hunt a pen raised deer, but I’d love to get one of them to breed a few does on my farm, it would be awesome genetics to introduce!!!

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My brother in law owns a deer farm. He feeds protien and soybeans. He does have some mineral licks out too but thats all. He currently owns 37 deer. His best buck will probably be in the 225" area this year. That is a 2 1/2 YO that he callas Big Boy.
He is about to buy another 20 acres adjacent to his land. He will then high fence it and sell "hunts" of his cull bucks for VERY LARGE $$. A cull buck is going to be any 2 1/2 YO that doesn't make 150".
This same guy, My brother in law and friend, whines about the high price of hunting in Tx. He cries about the cost of a decent lease. He then blames outfitters. I try to tell him he has himself to blame for wanting to profit from big inches of antler. He says no hes just a farmer selling to ranches and other breeders. He can't see the forest for the trees. The man is blinded by profit and living in denial. I guess he doesn't think those ranches sell hunts of his 200" farm raised deer. They must just keep them around for the genetics!

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Holy moly

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rediculus! a 400 inch deer.....even though i would like to see it;)

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With those tags in there ears, they are about as exciting to look at as cows. Give mea few hundred acres, some 12 ft fences and a few deer with good genetics, I probably could do the same thing. Waste of a deer that someone is just going to pay upwards of 20K to kill (notice I say Kill and not Hunt)

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No high fence for me but still fun to see.

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While I do think those deer probably have great genetics, their diet, low stress enviornment, and year round care probably has a little more to do with thier racks than anything else. Turn one of them loose wherever you want, they would probably starve to death if the food wasn't dumped in a trough in front of them. They are deer science projects at best I don't think releasing one in my woods would help the quality of my bucks much,howevermy woodswouldgreatly effect the qualiy of the deer that was dropped off.

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Nope,guard railsdon't even constitute a low fence.;)

I'm not against deer farms at all, many of them sell to outfitters that offer free range hunts. Besides it's still amazing to see that caliber of deer, even if there is genetic influences and superfeeding.

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My grandpa and I run a deer farm to study deer and there behavior in the wild and in captivity. Its fun to watch them grow up and get bigger racks

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I also heard somewhere that they cut the deers rack while in velvet to make more points. Is there any truth to this?

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I don't know about that, my brother in law gets nervous if hid deer just walk along the fence line. Hes worried that they will damage the rack. Also there is more money in typicals that are massive than in non-typicals of the same size so I would think adding more points wouldn't be so desirable. There will only be so much growth and most antler farmers want tall tines not a bunch of smaller ones.

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Bry, can you clarify this statement for me?

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I have talked to several outfitters in the midwest at trade showsthat said theyhave bought straws from operations like this. They said they will have their biologist tranqulize and inseminate as many does as they can from their property. My first question was if it was worth it considering the doe could be killed before giving birth, there could be fawn mortality, the offspring could be a doe, the offspring could displace to another property, etc. all due to being a non-fenced operation. They said that if they inseminate enough the genetics would be there making it worth the risk to improve the genetics of the herd.

Granted I talk to hundreds of outfitters at these shows and maybe 2 or 3 have said they have done this and the ones that do are extremely expensive, but it does exist from what I've been told.