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dstubb 07-05-2008 09:34 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
How in the world can you sit here and say what an animal goes through when it is shot? Your not god, so stop preaching to us unless you know for certain. Arthur, just get the hell out of this forum and go burn some ants or something.

Arthur P 07-05-2008 09:40 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
Whatever.

Geronimo 07-05-2008 09:47 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

My 'problem' is the same as yours, virginiashadow, and every other bowhunters'. In case you missed it, dstubbs said, "...it is hard to watch such a beautiful creature go through such agony."

I posted twice telling him why that is incorrect. I'm trying to educate the guy before his ignorance winds up in headlines on PETA's website. "BOWHUNTER SAYS ANIMALS DIE IN AGONY"

I'm astounded that I am the only one who has noticed and spoken up. We can't have a decent debate on anything around here without someone playing the PETA card, and then we have something like this - something they might and probably would use - and everybody lets it go without comment?? I sort of expected someone to get my back and help out with the chore rather than get my butt jumped over it.
I can only say that using words like "agony", "torture", "terror" and "pain" within the context of hunting and killing an animal provides ammunition for PETA and others. These terms are human terms to describe human emotions and feelings. To suggest that lower animals experience the same emotions is arrogant and misleading. So, I support Arthur's position that we should be more responsible with what we write for public view!

virginiashadow 07-05-2008 10:41 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
The man was stating his emotions using words that you may not choose to use while describing hunting. SO WHAT. Arthur himself used the word TERROR in his post. dstubb says he watched an animal die in what he feels is agony, because that is his human(and may actually be spot on) perception of the event he witnessed. He is in a tree stand, HOW is he supposed to "get away" from the dieing deer in order to relieve its TERROR TERROR TERROR? I just suggest that people learn how to communicate on here before you start calling someone "dense" and then belittling that person with bs sentences designed to do nothing more than antagonize that person.

And this... Geronimo "To suggest that lower animals experience the same emotions is arrogant and misleading."

To suggest that is to have a heart, one that beats with the animal you hunt, not one that believes it is above.

dstubb 07-05-2008 10:57 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
I think that the entire world is aware that with death comes agony, torture, terror and pain. I don't think PETA would get very far trying to use that against hunting. When you kill something it goes through one of those emotions, i really doubt anyone is not aware of that already! PETA would probably feel good knowing that the hunting community is not a bunch of heartless redneck monsters that just want to kill, kill, kill. How about instead PETA recognizes that bowhunters do show respect and sympathy to the animal that they harvest.

brotherbdc 07-05-2008 11:32 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
I never have enjoyed the "Killing" part, I tune it out and have become somewhat numb. I have tried to always make good clean shots, however mistakes and bad timing sometime happen. I hate it. I have only lost one deer that I shot with a bow. I Thought it was going to be a good shoot, however it wasent. Dont know what happend but I spent all day literaly searching. She was never found. I could not sleep, i was messed up over it.
There is a moment of solem respect I have for the animal when I recover it. I always thank God for providing, and then thank the animal, because it does provide life and sustenance. My family does rely alot on the game I harvest. We not starving by all means, we just choose to eat wild game rather than processed meat.
Killing is just one small aspect of the hunt

valor10 07-06-2008 07:06 AM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 

How in the world can you sit here and say what an animal goes through when it is shot? Your not god, so stop preaching to us unless you know for certain. Arthur, just get the hell out of this forum and go burn some ants or something.
You pop in a hunting forum, and whine about the "horrors" of watching Bambi die, then tell somebody trying to educate you to hit the bricks? This isn't Ophra. I'm tired of hearing this bull sensitivity about the death of an animal THAT YOU CAUSED! VOLUNTARILY! Get it? Don't kill it, no bad feelings. Pretty simple. How hard is it to understand? Some of the same people I read about their struggles with the actualkilling, are the same folks that fling an arrow 45 yards at a quartering away deer.Some compassion. If killing a deer causes so much emotional distress in your thinking, and you kill the animal anyway, what does that say about that person? Do you hunt to feel macho? To impressyour metrosexualfriends?

dstubb 07-06-2008 12:11 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
Valor, you said i another post: "Why not live and let live people!" Just stop already, you only have 1 or 2 followers here. You have insulted almost everyone that has posted in this forum by saying: " Some of the same people I read about their struggles with the actual killing, are the same folks that fling an arrow 45 yards at a quartering away deer." You are not the popular opinion, so for the love of god throw in the down and learn to deal with defeat. By the way, YOU SUCK!

GMMAT 07-06-2008 12:48 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
Can I get a quick time-out, here?

Far be it from me to interrupt a good 'ol "you suck" v. "you're a metrosexual" debate.....but I just wanted to know what ya'll were arguing about....so that I might pick a side and decide if I wanted to be a sack rider or not.

Anybody familiar or can give me the Cliff's?

Thanks.:)

virginiashadow 07-06-2008 02:18 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
valor---did you read the entire thread? "You pop in a hunting forum, and whine about the "horrors" of watching Bambi die, then tell somebody trying to educate you to hit the bricks? "


Noone was trying to "educate" him....someone didn't think they sufficiently got their point across then launched an unwarranted barrage on dstubbs. So read the whole thread then re-post.


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