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Arthur P 07-05-2008 11:08 AM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 

It's not that i can't stomach it, but it is hard to watch such a beautiful creature go through such agony.
Once again I am going to say this and I hope it connects with at least SOMEBODY. [>:]

As long as the arrow was well placed, the animal is NOT in agony. It's not even in pain. For one, it is in shock from blood loss. For another, they don't have the same pain receptors humans do.

What it is, it's confused that it can't get up and run. And if you're standing there watching it where it can see you, it's plain terrified and desperately trying to get up and escape with it's last ounce of strength. Repeat: It's TERROR, not agony, that you're watching!! And you are causing it by being a complete doofus.

Back off, LEAVE IT ALONE and don't freakin' watch it. It saves your feelings and it lets the animal calm down, fade away into unconsciousness and die in peace.

MN/Kyle 07-05-2008 11:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: valor10

It comes as a suprise to me so many cannot come to grips with their true nature. Loving to kill deer does not make you a serial killer, it does not make you inhuman, it does not make you uncompassionate.
Thank you for that Valor! I agree 100%.

It doesn't bother me, really, to kill an animal. I have respect for them, but face it, it is esentially why we arein the woods during hunting season. KILLING the animal, It is what it is, and why you takea weapon with you.

in da woods 07-05-2008 11:27 AM

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yea, I know the feeling. My first deer/buck w/a bow was that way. I had an old noisy slow browning, you know w/laminated wood riser, & he jumped at the string. Turns out, he turned & the arrow stuck him from behind in one leg, thru his scrotum, & into the other leg. He ran probably 100yds. Man I felt sorry for him. Nothing should have to die that way. Much better if it's a quick kill. To have compassion is not soft, it's called being human.

GMMAT 07-05-2008 11:53 AM

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If you love to hunt, but don't love the kill, why not just take a picture? You can experience everything about the hunt, and still just take a picture. Everything. You know why? Because that feeling you get just before you fling that arrow, that feeling you're about to take that animals life, that why you hunt.
When we start to impose our thoughts or what we think others "should" feel.....we're heading down a slippery slope of projecting our own, personal beliefs and ideologies into places they're not wanted, understood or accpeted.

Hunting is personal. Very personal.

I won't hesitate to end a deer's life.....but I do so with GREAT respect for that animal....and with a modicum of remorse. Far from 'regret".....but the act of killing has NEVER driven me on a single hunt. It's a necessary "part" of the overall hunting experience. It's not even the crescendo. It's "a" part.

dstubb 07-05-2008 12:36 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
How am i causing whatever your talking about by being a complete doofus Arthur? I have made one bad shot or bad choice since i have been hunting.

Arthur P 07-05-2008 01:12 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
dstubb, I believe I made my point abundantly clear. TWICE! If you're too dense to figure out what I said, you don't need to be playing with bows and arrows. I'd recommend confining yourself to nothing more dangerous than a Nerf ball.

Standing there watching a deer die, terrorizing it by your mere presence, rises beond the level of cruelty in my book. You're torturing the poor beast! Then coming on a public forum and whining about it making YOU feel bad? You deserve to feel bad.

I can't put it in any plainer English than that on this forum. But I'd sure love to.




TN Deer Hunter 07-05-2008 01:27 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
While I have no problem taking a animals life. It does not bother me to the extint of some of you guys. It is part of life and a part of hunting. I will not cry or feel remorse for the creature as it was put on this earth for humans to use as seen fit. I do respect the animal and I will not kill one to just kill a animal. If I don't have room in my freezer or someone to give the meat tooI am not going to kill one. With that said I have no use for someone who kills just to kill.




dstubb 07-05-2008 07:56 PM

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Well excuse me Mr. Internet Tough Guy. First of all how is it my fault that a deer runs away and crashed in my sight? I can't control how far they decide to run and neither can you. It's also kinda difficult to finish it off with a second shot when it is 100 yards away. I'm sure your gonna feed us all some crap now about how that would be no problem for you. I wish that i was as perfect as you Mr. Internet tough guy. Every forum has one and you are it. Congrats on being such an ass!

virginiashadow 07-05-2008 08:09 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
Arthur P, what the hell is your problem?

"dstubb, I believe I made my point abundantly clear. TWICE! If you're too dense to figure out what I said, you don't need to be playing with bows and arrows. I'd recommend confining yourself to nothing more dangerous than a Nerf ball. Standing there watching a deer die, terrorizing it by your mere presence, rises beond the level of cruelty in my book. You're torturing the poor beast! Then coming on a public forum and whining about it making YOU feel bad? You deserve to feel bad. I can't put it in any plainer English than that on this forum. But I'd sure love to. "




Arthur P 07-05-2008 09:23 PM

RE: Not a PETA Question!
 
My 'problem' is the same as yours, virginiashadow, and every other bowhunters'. In case you missed it, dstubbs said, "...it is hard to watch such a beautiful creature go through such agony."

I posted twice telling him why that is incorrect. I'm trying to educate the guy before his ignorance winds up in headlines on PETA's website. "BOWHUNTER SAYS ANIMALS DIE IN AGONY"

I'm astounded that I am the only one who has noticed and spoken up. We can't have a decent debate on anything around here without someone playing the PETA card, and then we have something like this - something they might and probably would use - and everybody lets it go without comment?? I sort of expected someone to get my back and help out with the chore rather than get my butt jumped over it.


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