Hunting tactics topic #1
06-27-2008 | 06:46 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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Hunting tactics topic #1
Can heavily pressured mature bucks be killed outside the rut on a consistent basis? (Legally)
How much, if any, effort do you put forth at trying to do so? And what has been your best strategy?
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Ok, the #1 is because I have several topics I plan to discuss. I didn’t mean that this is the #1 topic of things to discuss.
How much, if any, effort do you put forth at trying to do so? And what has been your best strategy?
EDITED FOR BELOW REASON
Ok, the #1 is because I have several topics I plan to discuss. I didn’t mean that this is the #1 topic of things to discuss.
06-27-2008 | 07:00 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Hunting tactics topic #1
From everything I have read and seen
Opening day is your best shot. I have seen 4 the last 4 years on opening day. Almost had a shot in 2005, and killed the buck 14 days later.
I say yes, but one has to put a lot of scouting in AND not pressure the area!!!
Opening day is your best shot. I have seen 4 the last 4 years on opening day. Almost had a shot in 2005, and killed the buck 14 days later.
I say yes, but one has to put a lot of scouting in AND not pressure the area!!!
06-27-2008 | 07:07 AM
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I say yes, but one has to put a lot of scouting in AND not pressure the area!!!
I feel like my best chance on my new properties will be in the first two weeks of the season. The fields have beans......the area hasn't been pressured (to my knowledge...or at least legally). I just have to wait to see what's there. Beauty is.....I can scout it from a wooded hillside about 1/3 mi away. I gained access to some land I knew I couldn't hunt.....JUST to be able to glass them from there.
We'll see.
06-27-2008 | 07:12 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Hunting tactics topic #1
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How many times a year ......do you believe a scouting camera has saved many a mature whitetail?
I feel like my best chance on my new properties will be in the first two weeks of the season. The fields have beans......the area hasn't been pressured (to my knowledge...or at least legally). I just have to wait to see what's there. Beauty is.....I can scout it from a wooded hillside about 1/3 mi away. I gained access to some land I knew I couldn't hunt.....JUST to be able to glass them from there.
We'll see.
I say yes, but one has to put a lot of scouting in AND not pressure the area!!!
I feel like my best chance on my new properties will be in the first two weeks of the season. The fields have beans......the area hasn't been pressured (to my knowledge...or at least legally). I just have to wait to see what's there. Beauty is.....I can scout it from a wooded hillside about 1/3 mi away. I gained access to some land I knew I couldn't hunt.....JUST to be able to glass them from there.
We'll see.
06-27-2008 | 07:24 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hunting tactics topic #1
Its really hot here the first 2 weeks of the season. My best chance is usually hunting funnels near crop fields while they are harvesting the crops. I've seen ALOT of bucks that never appeared on my cameras while doing this. I call it window shopping, becuase I never get anything, but its kinda fun.[8D]
06-27-2008 | 07:26 AM
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RE: Hunting tactics topic #1
About the best I can hope for is tucking up REAL close to a bedding area, hope the wind doesn’t swirl and the buck decides to move with enough daylight left to shoot. Other than that, I see no chance of catching a mature buck during daylight hours in the places I hunt. And this tactic is risky, because of the proximity I would need to invade to get close enough.
The bucks are well off their summer patterns by the time our opener hits, which honestly wouldn’t matter much anyways, cause even over the summer, you don’t see the big boys unless you have a spot light.
The bucks are well off their summer patterns by the time our opener hits, which honestly wouldn’t matter much anyways, cause even over the summer, you don’t see the big boys unless you have a spot light.
06-27-2008 | 07:31 AM
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The bucks are well off their summer patterns by the time our opener hits, which honestly wouldn’t matter much anyways, cause even over the summer, you don’t see the big boys unless you have a spot light.
I see bucks in the field edges, here....at all hours of the day. Our season opener is around the 10th of Sept. each year.....and I'd love to hve you come down and sweat one out with me. No promises.....but I'm betting you'll draw your bow on "a" deer.
06-27-2008 | 07:43 AM
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RE: Hunting tactics topic #1
Rybo I think the keywordspressure andconsistent and no I dont believe you can. You cant make any mistakes when it comes to these big boys especially if they know
something is after them. Most if not all will become nocturnal and well you know what tha means. Every year when I head up to Northern Wi for the gun hunt I can be hunting
a certain spot and see no sign on the way out but come back the next morning and see some pretty good trees tore up. The sob's are doing this at night and dont see them
during daylight at all. One option that we do have during gun season is deer drives and even then these guys are masters of their domain for sure.
If you can find a pocket where hunters dont seem to be checking out and has some buck sign you can either sneak in their and setup or watch it at last light.
If you sneak in you best get in their way earlier then what most hunters are willing to do. For example most around my parts are sneaking into their stands between 05:30 and 06:00. I use the term sneaking lightly by the
way because most dont from my experiences. I try to get my butt out there by 04:30ish with 05:00 being the latest. Of course sometimes it just does not happen this way,You may just catch one
coming back from dinner a little late. Just remember these bucks have probably seen it all with pressure.
I myself am still having problems wacking one during gun season on the timber company land where I hunt. But I am going into the swamp and I aint coming out unless BLOODCRIK is hiding
in there with those fingers of his and scares the living day lights out of me at 5 am.
There is a book I would like to get called bow hunting pressured whitetails.
something is after them. Most if not all will become nocturnal and well you know what tha means. Every year when I head up to Northern Wi for the gun hunt I can be hunting
a certain spot and see no sign on the way out but come back the next morning and see some pretty good trees tore up. The sob's are doing this at night and dont see them
during daylight at all. One option that we do have during gun season is deer drives and even then these guys are masters of their domain for sure.
If you can find a pocket where hunters dont seem to be checking out and has some buck sign you can either sneak in their and setup or watch it at last light.
If you sneak in you best get in their way earlier then what most hunters are willing to do. For example most around my parts are sneaking into their stands between 05:30 and 06:00. I use the term sneaking lightly by the
way because most dont from my experiences. I try to get my butt out there by 04:30ish with 05:00 being the latest. Of course sometimes it just does not happen this way,
You may just catch onecoming back from dinner a little late. Just remember these bucks have probably seen it all with pressure.
I myself am still having problems wacking one during gun season on the timber company land where I hunt. But I am going into the swamp and I aint coming out unless BLOODCRIK is hiding
in there with those fingers of his and scares the living day lights out of me at 5 am.
There is a book I would like to get called bow hunting pressured whitetails.
06-27-2008 | 07:47 AM
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Giant Nontypical
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RE: Hunting tactics topic #1
You suck, you know that dont ya
ORIGINAL: peakrut
Rybo I think the keywordspressure andconsistent and no I dont believe you can. You cant make any mistakes when it comes to these big boys especially if they know
something is after them. Most if not all will become nocturnal and well you know what tha means. Every year when I head up to Northern Wi for the gun hunt I can be hunting
a certain spot and see no sign on the way out but come back the next morning and see some pretty good trees tore up. The sob's are doing this at night and dont see them
during daylight at all. One option that we do have during gun season is deer drives and even then these guys are masters of their domain for sure.
If you can find a pocket where hunters dont seem to be checking out and has some buck sign you can either sneak in their and setup or watch it at last light.
If you sneak in you best get in their way earlier then what most hunters are willing to do. For example most around my parts are sneaking into their stands between 05:30 and 06:00. I use the term sneaking lightly by the
way because most dont from my experiences. I try to get my butt out there by 04:30ish with 05:00 being the latest. Of course sometimes it just does not happen this way,You may just catch one
coming back from dinner a little late. Just remember these bucks have probably seen it all with pressure.
I myself am still having problems wacking one during gun season on the timber company land where I hunt. But I am going into the swamp and I aint coming out unless BLOODCRIK is hiding
in there with those fingers of his and scares the living day lights out of me at 5 am.
Rybo I think the keywordspressure andconsistent and no I dont believe you can. You cant make any mistakes when it comes to these big boys especially if they know
something is after them. Most if not all will become nocturnal and well you know what tha means. Every year when I head up to Northern Wi for the gun hunt I can be hunting
a certain spot and see no sign on the way out but come back the next morning and see some pretty good trees tore up. The sob's are doing this at night and dont see them
during daylight at all. One option that we do have during gun season is deer drives and even then these guys are masters of their domain for sure.
If you can find a pocket where hunters dont seem to be checking out and has some buck sign you can either sneak in their and setup or watch it at last light.
If you sneak in you best get in their way earlier then what most hunters are willing to do. For example most around my parts are sneaking into their stands between 05:30 and 06:00. I use the term sneaking lightly by the
way because most dont from my experiences. I try to get my butt out there by 04:30ish with 05:00 being the latest. Of course sometimes it just does not happen this way,
You may just catch onecoming back from dinner a little late. Just remember these bucks have probably seen it all with pressure.
I myself am still having problems wacking one during gun season on the timber company land where I hunt. But I am going into the swamp and I aint coming out unless BLOODCRIK is hiding
in there with those fingers of his and scares the living day lights out of me at 5 am.