Bowhunting Fallacies.
 

Lets have some input on what you believe to be falsehoods about Bowhunting or hunting in general.Things that are commonly mentioned or discussed that are not true or at least they havn't been for you.
I'll start 1) Hunt Big Bucks in the places that are so obvious that every one over looks them.First of all I have never been able to get myself to completely buy in to this belief so I don't know that I have tried to do that.To me it feels foolish.Yeah I will be within sight of the barn in this little quarter acre thicket,I just can't get myself to do it.
Every time I read an article on this topic I immediately dismiss the writer as a BS artist.Unless a big buck can tunnel like a gopher I just don't see it happenning.

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Mature bucks only travel with their nose into the wind :eek:

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"Deer don't move on windy days."

I personally have seen and killed more bucks on windy days than still days. When the wind is blowing hard, I'm in the woods.

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Good one Buckeye.

Often I read many articles I totally and completely agree are pure garbage. It's like someone wrote a book 30 years ago with the same tactics everyone knows.. and all the outdoor writers of today simply recycle it.. choosing their own words. I doubt many even believe the tactic works and it comes out in their writing.

On the better writers.. it's not that the tactics don't work.. it's that they leave so much out that ticks me off. They forget about their target audience.. they forget and leave out the most detailed portion of the entire tactic. I know we've all read those articles where it just seems like somethings missing.

Most outdoor writers know very little of the true behavior of deer.. they simply agree and recycle everything else ever written before them. Deer have a forehead gland is my favorite. For those who wish to know.. deer do not have a forehead gland.. they have sweat glands in the forehead which give off the odor only during certain times of year... but you'll never read that one. Because its easier to understand and write deer have a forehead gland. Talk to your taxidermist he'll back me up.

Their are so many variables in hunting and they start and end not at each state or county line.. but rather each property line. The greatest piece of info. you'll ever read will be a piece.. or a tactic that you can actually use on your property. So you must learn to brush the garbage away.. or keep it for another day. (can't believe i just rhymed.. what a dork).

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bowhunting is inhumane and wrong


this fits the criteria because it is a falsehood on bowhunting and is commonly discussed among us and peta

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"If you get busted by a buck in a paticular stand you might as well pack up and move." I missed a nice buck one evening and went back to the exact same stand the next morning and killed him. I went back totally expecting to see and possibly get another shot at him. Now thats deer gospel from the original author.

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100% agree.

The only time I find the statement partially true is from forced movement. Locally, if deer are used to drives on a particular property you cannot move them with the wind at their backs if your life depended on it...but that is not bowhunting, generally.

I would add...the idea that there is a clear 'upwind' and 'downwind' in every senario. I hunt broken ground and the wind swirls like you wouldn't believe. If a deer goes 'downwind' and doesnt smell you...it probably wasnt 'downwind'

That is, if you are not wearing scentblocker underpants.

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Deer will never come in or past you from downwind if you are not wearing some sort of Scent-Lok type clothing.

If you take every scent precaution known to man you will never get busted if a deer is upwind of you.

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I always laughted at that one. If this were true - with our predominantly west wind - all my deer would end up on the west coast. Hey shed33 don't be shooting any of my deer!lol

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One of the biggest bucks I have ever seen shot in my area was shot by my buddy in a little patch of hay that wasn't cut because the ground was too wet. Another nice 10 pointer lived in a 1 acre woods right behind a barn. He was killed by a guy on his way back to that little woods.

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A fatally hit deer will always run away with its tail down or up. I have heard it both ways.

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here is what I believe to be false. If you bump a buck from his bedding area he will relocate. Bull dudu. They will return and use that bedding area. They may turn more nocturnal. If you repeatedly bump them they eventually will find a new spot.

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There are no bucks left after gun season.

I killed my biggest buck to date on January 2, 2000.

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Hunting is as easy as food, cover, reproducion. :D;)[8D]

I'm sorry but I just couldn't help myself.:)

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I hear you magic,I just don't like the odds!

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Slicing a deers throat so they bleed out.

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a bowtech and rage is the only way to go;);)

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THAT"S not true?????:eek: I don't believe you!! ( See my Sig.)

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"Slicing a deers throat so they bleed out." LOL.


Here is mine..."you must wear rubber boots every time you hunt or the deer will smell the .000000000000000000000000000978% molecular make-up of your human odor". I hate me some rubber boots. If I wore them to all the places I hiked, I would need spinal fusion due to their heavy, non-supportive features.

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A fawn won't survive the winter without its mother.

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Wounded deer always go to water. NOT!!!

Mortally wounded deer will not travel uphill. WRONG!!!

Don't stare at a deer or make eye contact. Old Wife's tale!!! I burn a hole in every deer I intend to shoot.

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Man I get sick of hearing that one!!! Good post janesburg!!

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I've never heard that one in 50 years of hunting.

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I'veheard that several times.;)

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It could take 8 years to get a bear rug made.
Oh wait, that one is true.;)[8D]

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That's funny now! It wasn't not all that long ago.Schultzy definitely gets the patience award!

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Wounded deer, not always, butquite often will go to water if it's nearby!;)

Wounded deer, mortally or otherwise, will generally take the path ofleast
resistance.;)

The last one isn't worth discussing.:D:D

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My last buck ran uphill after I shot him.....Wasn't a small hill either....

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You better believe there is a good bit of truth in that one. How many deer do you see standing on the side of the road and near houses. All the time. Because no one hunts there. They walk right past those areas and hunt way in the woods. I have been walking back to my truck several times and had deer cross the dirt road 5 yards in front ofmy truck. Bucks and does on public land.

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But how do you effectively hunt these area's with any degree of confidence,and with any reasonable liklihhood of opportunity.I don't doubt that it happens,I just don't know that it would with any degree of consistency that would justify my doing it.Especially so bowhunting out of a tree stand.

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That's great stuff, Chris. I almost did the same thing, this past year. I saw him on Friday....too dark to shoot. I saw him on Saturday and got busted. I saw him on Tuesday....30 yds from there...and killed him.

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Another GOOD ONE Magic!:D:D:D:D:D

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If you know a deer is using a small spot especially if its more open the only way may be to get in there b/4 he returns in the morn. Or figure out where he enters and leaves and try to cut him off. Some setups require ground blind setups

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How about these.....
Deer don't movewhile it is raining.
A deer can hear so well it is impossible to stalk/still huntwithin bow range.

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My favorite pile of BS is hearing that you have to have the blades of a fixed blade head aligned with fletchings in order to have good arrow flight.

Another favorite is that mechanicals fly and hit in exactly the same spot as field points (and they will come extremely close off a perfectly tuned bow... but considering the person this statement usually comes from and the POS jury rigged bow they are using.... its pure fallacy).

That a bow will shoot in exactly the same spot at 20 and 30 yards because its a Mathews (or insert Hoyt, Bowtech, HCA, Alpine etc etc) and its just that fast. (the real reason is the shooter cannot shoot good enough to tell the difference.)

When it comes to hunting:

That you can RUIN a hunting spot by peeing on the ground. (deer aren't afraid of human urine at all... infact it makes them curious... if you believe in that Vanilla Curiosity scent stuff.... is it really any big suprise).

In my part of the world, where running dogs and using buckshot rule supreme starting a week before Thanksgiving... I often hear: "BUT THE STILL HUNTERS ARE KILLIN ALL DA BIG DEUUUHHHRR!" Which of course is not even close to true. Those same dog drivers are usually the ones you'll see just around lunch time on your property with a leash in their hands whooping and hollering and claiming they are looking for their dogs (which is 100% legal in VA to go on to anothers land... posted or not.... to retreive your dogs as long as you are not armed and on foot). However, of course, 8 of their buddies will have guns and be standing on the property line as he "looks for his dogs" (fallacy of course is that its an illegal man drive covered by a legal loophole).

Another fallacy... that anyone, anywhere can kill a big buck by rattling and grunting.... which is simply not true... I've never had a buck respond to either. But bleats work pretty dang good. Of course, it depends exactly where in the country you are, because there are places where it works very well so I'm told and so I see on TV.

Finally... if you wear ScentBlocker... you can forget the wind and just hunt.

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You can spoon a deer while he's sleeping[&:]
Don't ask[:@]

Once a spike always a spike;)

Don't shoot a doe, that's next years buck[8D]

I shot a yearly[&:]No you shot a fawn moron, a yearly is at least a year old(this one drives me nuts)

Deer don't move in the rain[&:]

Deer won't cross water, it's like a natural fence[&:]

There are only big bucks in the Midwest;)

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Thanks magic.If I knew a buck was consistently using an area I would do exactly as you have said.The key for me would be prior knowledge of the animal using the area.

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there is a such thing as scent free if you wear all the suits and take all the precautions the pros do[:'(]- now thats some pure BS, and i hear it all the time

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you and i have a tough time on this site lol

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"Deer are colorblind"

Deer have dichromatic vision meaning they can see all hues of blues and yellows but are red, green colorblind.