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Old 06-17-2008 | 09:41 AM
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Yes, I believe there is. I think it's best to hit the lower portion of the lungs so they have to fill up less (quicker trail)before the blood comes out. A high hit in the lungs allows them to take on much more blood before they start leaving a trail.JMHO
I Absolutely agree. If you shoot a deer lower in the lungs, the bloods fills them much faster and can almost get an immediate blood trail. I also believe that a lower lung shot brings the deers center of gravity down therefor making it fall quicker. My lower shot lung deer have gone shorter distances than the ones I have shot higher up in the lungs. Blood trails on lower lung deer have also been like following a garden house with red water. Upper shot ones seem to not have the amount of blood expelled.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 09:47 AM
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I don't know if there would be that much of a difference, as long as both lungs are fully penetrated. My understanding is that penetrating both lungs with a sharp object (i.e. broadhead) and opening the insides of the lungs to the outside air pressure generally causes both lungs to collapse, and the deer dies from suffocation rather than blood loss. You may get better blood trails from a lower lung shot, but I'm not sure if it's going to kill the deer much faster.

I aim for the middle of the lungs so I have some room for error in each direction. No deer that I've double-lunged with an arrow has gone more the 75 yards after the hit. Most have piled up within 40 or 50 yards.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 09:56 AM
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The more lung tissue that your broadhead goes throughthe quicker they will bleed out, pass out, and thendie.

This doesn't necessarily mean a center punch through the lungs. It could mean a high quartering away shot that enters high in the rear of the lung, travels all the way through, cuts off the arteries in the center of thelungs and then exits through the lower front offside lung. That's a heck of a lot of lung tissue for the arrow to pass through and a tremendous ammount of bleeding that will occur.

The lower in the bodythe holethe quicker they will leave blood on the ground.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 10:09 AM
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Default RE: Do you think there is degrees in the effectiveness of a double lung?

Another thing some don't know about lung shots is that while they do die from suffocation they actually bleed out rather fast as well. This is due to the fact that after the blood vessel rich lungs are punctured a deers body suffers a massive drop in blood pressure which the deers body compensates for by pumping it's heart harder and faster which of course leads to more bleeding, this is almost opposite of how a deers body responds to a heart shot where the body shuts down the heart and all arteries, veins, and organs retain the blood they possess which equals decreased blood circulation and less blood leaves the body.Heart shots are definitely deadly and I have never had a badblood trail from onejust thought I'd mention it.

Entry exit holes come into play because even though the actual wound on a high lung shot will bleed and smudge the chest cavity can take a long time to fill up to a high wound if it fills up that much at all, and me personally I would rather have that blood on the ground than filling in the chest cavity.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 11:06 AM
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I shot one through both lungs low this year----she ran no more than 25 yards and was dead in less than 10 seconds. So I yes to the double lung low shot!
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Old 06-17-2008 | 11:15 AM
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Any hit on a whitetail has to due with one thing and one thing only - the amount of damage you do from entry to exit or the point the arrow stops. The more arteries, veins, and tissue you cut - the faster they die. Liver, lungs, guts, etc...

This is why I use a big cut on contact broadhead. No possibility of a single lung lost deer when you're pushing 1-3/4" worth of blade through the boiler-room of a whitetail. I've seen too many fixed head hits that resorted in lost deer because they just didn't cause enough damage.

Just my opinion of-course!
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Old 06-17-2008 | 11:23 AM
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Do you think one part of the lungs would prove more fatal than the other.
Nope, no such thing as "more fatal" is there? That is like saying one deer is "more dead" than another... Couldn't resist that one.

I actually disagree with most, in that by far for me, high lunghits have brought my deer down the quickest. Regardless of opinion on the best part of the lungs, I am sure that some areas of the lungs have a higher density of vessels. I think you could make a case for a difference in effectiveness between lungs fully inflated at impact vs. deflated at impact as well.

I know for darn sure there is a difference in effectiveness on liver hits.I have had liver hits die in minutes and have some last between 8-12 hours.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 11:37 AM
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A lung hit is a lung hit IMO. A deer wont go far when both lungs are punctured. They are dead essentially whenever you hit them, it just depends on how far they run in that period of time before they collapse. Most people that prefer the lower lung hits want the blood trails, but even you guys would agree that a double lung hit is a dead deer, is a dead deer, is a dead deer...right? All kill with the same lethality, its just how quickly and how much blood you find.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 03:03 PM
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? I know that double lung hits are for all practical purposes always lethal, but am suprised at how many people really think hitting deer anywhere in the lungs is entirely equivalent. Disect your next kill. Lungs are NOT homogenous. If you cut larger air (bronchial?) tubes and blood vessels at the center (and slightly forward of center) of both lungs, any given deer will die faster. Closer to the edges of the lungs takes longer...sometimes much longer.

I have noticed deer falling a shorter distance from stand when hit high through both lungs, but it seems to me that is because they do not run off as fast (as a rule) when shot like that. They run (or trot or walk) 20-50 yards, stop, and tip over. A more solid lung hit (and heart) and they take off on a dead sprint covering more ground in a shorter time span.... as a very general rule.

Then there is the major arteries and veins branching off the top of the heart - cut one and that has an impact on bloodloss and eventually muscle death as well. That all being said, a double lung is still a dead deer, you just have to find it.
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Old 06-17-2008 | 03:08 PM
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Default RE: Do you think there is degrees in the effectiveness of a double lung?

I've hit them high in the lungs,low in the lungs,forward part and rear part--all piled up within 80yds.No matter where you hit the lungs,if you punch holes in them,they can't get air
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