I hear ya Rory. This stuff all gets so old. But I guess if it weren't for boneheads arguing over this stuff all the time the guy who created the sticker with the kid pissing on bows, trucks and everything else wouldn't have ever made his millions.
Bottom Line-----Shoot whatever bow you can shoot the best.

see you fellas are taking my post the opposite of why i made it. I agree with you 100%. I am so tired of it also. I get so tired of hearing "innovations" when infact they were just borrowed ideas. Understand what I am saying?

Yep,,, Hot air.

now i do, i thought you were coming here to start a big argument

Yeah, just as your comment about being on top.

i do not believe i made a comment about being on top?[&:]

Can you tell from my comments which bow I carry to the stand with me? I never mentioned a Brand. The comment was addressed as the GUYS on top.

Happens all the time! Where would these big compound companies be today if it weren't for Martin, Bear, PSE, Hoyt, Pearson, all of the old bow company's? They wouldn't be!! The big shots like to make themselves look good and take all the credit for something they didn't start with. It happens all the time weather its in the archery business or in life itself. Its sad but people gloat over it.

I do not know about Martin butBear, PSE an Ben Pearson really got the ball rolling many years ago.

Actually Martin is the company that Mathews can thank for the dampeners in the riser.