Sorry, that should have read "No one can hold a crossbow steadier than a compound"
I should have excluded those who do not have complete use of their limbs.
I agree with your second statement about getting more out but disagree that a crossbow is a step up because that is a pretty sweeping statement. Crossbows are certainly easier to handle from some respects but it is not easier to hold on target unless you use a rest. They are also far more difficult to shoot around trees than a compound especially when in a tree stand.

You still haven't explained how even shooting arrows out of a gun will prevent you from passing the bowhunting tradition on to your daughter.

My daughter just turned 7 and she got a recurve for her birthday. I currently hunt with a compound yet it doesn't prevent me from teaching my daughter how to shoot, and eventually hunt with, a recurve.

Your argument that allowing CB's (or arrows shot from guns) into archery season will "ruin" the tradition of bowhunting doesn't make any sense.

What the heck is a gun that shoots arrows? I think someone converted a couple of rimfire rifles into arrow shooting devices but what does a firearm that shoots arrows with gun powder have to do with this bull$hit thread?

Just a quick question Shultzy that stems from this statement:

Other than it's appearance/cosmetics and the draw being held mechanicallydo you feel there are other similaritiesto a gun?

As far as actually hunting with one aren't the limitations and characteristics of a crossbow and how they kill almost identical to most other archery equipment (more similiar to compounds than recurvesI know, just speaking in general)?

Just curiousas towhich characteristics are more important to you as far as puttinga weaponin a season. As high tech as compounds and crossbows are they are still very primitive(as far as killing)compared to modern firearms(imo).



Also:

I agree with a lot you said at the endthere and I can understand what you are saying about grey areas but I also don't believe in tunnel vision or oversimplifying something either. I feel you are looking at crossbows and compounds from a strictly shooting at a target perspective. Yeah if a guy with a crossbow is shooting off a rest at 30 yards and I am shooting my compound at the same range he can probably group better, not much better but I would agree at least a little better.

That being said there is a world of difference between doing that and sitting in a tree deer hunting. I found the crossbow to be heavy/cumbersome in the stand and while "shooting off of a rest" is being thrown around a lot and is great for target shooting how often will that apply in the woods? I find it easier to maneuver my compound in stand and also don't want to be anchored toa "rest" or need one to shoot comfortably/confidently. If a deer comes in and works around behind me I want to be able to stand and turn around and shoot at that deer witout having to worry about what to brace against or if the tree is in the way, or if I have enough room. My compound makes that much easier and is by far a better weapon in that department, to me.

That is all I am saying, ease of shooting with a weapon at a target and ease of hunting with that same weapon are not the same thing and each hunter has his/her preferences. You may feel crossbows are a step up from compounds and are better weaponsas far as simpleshooting but thereare alot more dynamics involved whenhunting witha weaponthat don't come into play when you arejust shooting it.

Ask Schultzy. He thinks it will ruin bowhunting traditions that are passed on from parent to child.

Not to you Bruce but it does to me. Like I asked earlier how long have you been involved with bow hunting and its Tradition?

Its called more technology Dnk! Like I said don't laugh, its coming! Allot of you could care less what happens with the Technology in bow hunting, I do. Why does that make me a bad person?

Its similarities to me are the not drawing, scope, stock, trigger, pretty much everything you already said. Its pretty simple to know what the similarities are between a gun and a Xbow. Yes there are some similarities between the bow and crossbow but I think there are more similarities between the xbow and gun. Killing wise your arrow or (bolt) does the same thing as a regular bow's arrow would do, no difference there. The characteristics to me from what I listed earlier are the characteristics one would see on a gun so then I believe it should be put in the gun season. What is wrong with putting them in the gun season?

You still haven't answered my question but I'll answer yours and ask one more. I have been bowhunting for a year and a half. Now, how is that even relevent to this?

Anybody ever notice that vampire hunters mostly use crossbows. The only exception that i can recall was in Blade III when Jessica Biel used a compound bow.

Acutally you guys are pretty funny and I suspect you're all getting a chuckle out of this. Well I hope so anyways! The internet is a wonderful thing isn't it?

You just answered my question so now I can finally answer yours Bruce. The Tradition of bow hunting means a hell of allot more to me then it does to you being I've been around it forever and seen the change go in a wild crazy direction. 10 years from now Bruce kids are going to be doing everything the easiest way possible, hell there doing it now! I don't care how good of a parent you are or what you preach to your kids, times are changing and what was once somewhat difficult and actually took some thinking and muscle is soon out the window. Its no different then the kids in school using calculators in there math class and such. No one thinks and uses there own head anymore, lets find something or someone to do it for us, it will be easier that way. More people these days are fat and lazy because no one wants to work for anything anymore. All you here is give me, give me!