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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:26 PM
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Spreading scent all over your hunting area taking different trails all the time.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:29 PM
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It takes more than ladies to attract bucks to your area replacing the ones that are disbursed. Improve the habitat and food, limit the pressure and create safe havens, and have enough ladies to go around and you will see the ratios change noticably. After 3 years on my place we are just starting to see the difference, and it took Dan's place closer to 6 years.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:34 PM
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It takes more than ladies to attract bucks to your area replacing the ones that are disbursed.
Good point! But an over harvest of does will effect the number or bucks you will see during the season. Granted bucks will still frequent the area if food, cover and water exist the sightings may be few and far between as they will move more at night and during the pre and post rut when the bucks are regaining their energy.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:35 PM
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Still, out of 16, one buck should have emerged as the dominant and declrared that territory as his and you should have atleast seen him.
I did see one 4.5 yr old. I have no doubts he was the dominant buck in this area.

Did you see a greater or lesser amounts of 1.5-2.5 year old bucks during the 07 season?
I saw exactly 3 different 1.5 yr olds and 1 4.5 yr old

What is your property makeup? How many acres do you have? Do the neighboring landowners pass on younger bucks as well?
I was hunting approx. 75 acres of land that abutts 230 acres of sanctuary that no one is allowed to hunt. There is probably 1+ sq. mi. that these deer call "home". There's no telling what one set of my neighbors is shooting.....actually.....two sets.




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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:36 PM
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did you notice a decline in doe sightings as well?
Yes. But I passed this off as not sitting on stand as much as in the previous year (because I took the first doe opportunity most every time). In reality....this could have something to do with the buck sightings, as well, I suppose.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:37 PM
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75 acres is a decent bit of land but by no means is it huge. I think the answers (your bucks) could be found in that 230 acre sanctuary?
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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:45 PM
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75 acres is a decent bit of land but by no means is it huge. I think the answers (your bucks) could be found in that 230 acre sanctuary?
But how would you account for seeing them one year and not the next? The property hasn't changed.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 12:57 PM
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You can probaly write off a few to death (cars, other hunters nearby, injury), a few to changing location, and maybe some using the 230 acre sanctuary more. Even if the property hasn't changed their enviornment has in that even if you are very careful about scent and what not(which you seem to be) you took quite a few deer out of there and tracked and trailed and searched for at least one other I thought(can't remember exactly). That could account for some of the change as well.

I huntone piece that is a similiar size(67 acres) and even though I am very careful they can still pattern me it seems. They know what's going on in those woods very well.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 01:10 PM
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75 acres is a decent bit of land but by no means is it huge. I think the answers (your bucks) could be found in that 230 acre sanctuary?
But how would you account for seeing them one year and not the next? The property hasn't changed.
True, but the bucks have. As bucks grow older they grow smarter. They may recognized that your 75 acre tract of land as being hunted (it just takes the lightest bit of pressure for a buck to realize he is being hunted) and reverted to the sanctuary where they obviously felt safer.

Did you get any trail cam photos of these deer or still photos? Did you just not see them while hunting or zero sightings of these bucks period?

I'm still stumped. Out of 16 bucks I think you would have ATLEAST seen 2-3.
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Old 04-07-2008 | 01:17 PM
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I saw zero 2.5 yr olds either on game cam or sightings.(but I;ll check the game cam to make sure).

And IMO....there'sno deer dumber than a 1.5yr old buck....lol. I don't think 16 of them got THAT smart in 9 months.

I hunted 46 times in '06.....and 48 times in '07.....but I will admit to being MORE intrusive in '07. No doubt about that.
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