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NEW61375 03-25-2008 12:45 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Why is Rage top dog? That's easy; they've spent more money advertising and promoting they're heads than anyone else! I won't be shooting them anytime soon, cause I don't care who uses them, I only use what tests have proven to be better performing heads....

How do you perform better than deader'n a doornail with a massive swath cut through???


Good question, and I'm sure you know there are many broadheads that have results that fit that description and there have been for a long time.You can however still google rage broadheads and amongst many good/great reviews you will find those that were not impressed with them(as with any broadhead) and you will find a detailed history of QA problems(recalls, which in their defense was early on andthey seem to have corrected). I'm just saying many broadheads on the market produce large entry/exit holes and good blood trails leading to dead deer within 50-100 yards, that doesn't make them the best, most devastating broadhead except for in someone's opinion.IMO

GMMAT 03-25-2008 12:54 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 
I follow that NEW......what you're saying (and I think the recall was limited to the 3 blade rage head).....but I find it VERY funny that the largest detractors of this head have never tried it....and never intend to try it......yet they know something else is "The best", or...better than the rage head. I've just asked to see the damage the "best" is inflicting....and let's compare.

You know....if someone just says....I'm gonna use a slick trick (or whatever).....more power to 'em. I don't see why all the insecurity over the rage head abounds, though. You can't post a rage thread in this forum without having the people aforementined (who've never used it....and never intend to use it) coming in and denouncing it.

It's really hilarious, dontcha think?:)

NEW61375 03-25-2008 01:20 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 
Let me clarify that I have no problem with the Rage head and have never really denounced it, I don't/haven't used them for my own reasons. Namely the recall and the fact that I don't like the looks of them(I know, not the best reason just being honest). I am just pointing out the fact that while they are popular there are many broadheads on the marketproducing similiar results.While I may not shoot the RageI can read and formulate opinions basedon other information as I do with many products. I won't criticize them but I willcomment on thembased on what I have read andother broadhead results I have seen(comparetively that is). They are probablygood headsbut if you think their popularity does not have anything to do with being the next "big thing" and lots of advertising dollarsthen just wait a couple of seasons until the next big thing comes out.


ORIGINAL: GMMAT


I follow that NEW......what you're saying (and I think the recall was limited to the 3 blade rage head).....but I find it VERY funny that the largest detractors of this head have never tried it....and never intend to try it......yet they know something else is "The best", or...better than the rage head. I've just asked to see the damage the "best" is inflicting....and let's compare.

You know....if someone just says....I'm gonna use a slick trick (or whatever).....more power to 'em. I don't see why all the insecurity over the rage head abounds, though. You can't post a rage thread in this forum without having the people aforementined (who've never used it....and never intend to use it) coming in and denouncing it.

It's really hilarious, dontcha think?:)
:)Kind of like someone saying they have the most trauma causing head on the market.....bar none......when they have tried relatively few broadheadsand aresaying that basedon their resultsfromless than one season and acouple of deer, I'm just saying.


ORIGINAL: GMMAT

At 300+fps and 80+#'s of KE.......I don't worry about whether mine will or won't. I KNOW I have the most trauma inflicting BH on the tip of my arrow that is made......bar none.

I shoot the Rage.

Good luck.




BowHuntingFool 03-25-2008 01:22 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I follow that NEW......what you're saying (and I think the recall was limited to the 3 blade rage head).....but I find it VERY funny that the largest detractors of this head have never tried it....and never intend to try it......yet they know something else is "The best", or...better than the rage head. I've just asked to see the damage the "best" is inflicting....and let's compare.

You know....if someone just says....I'm gonna use a slick trick (or whatever) .....more power to 'em. I don't see why all the insecurity over the rage head abounds, though. You can't post a rage thread in this forum without having the people aforementined (who've never used it....and never intend to use it) coming in and denouncing it.

It's really hilarious, dontcha think?:)
I hear ya Jeff ... 1st it starts off how many years they have been bowhunting, then how many different braodheads they have used in said years then tell you what the best head is and how horrible the Rage is, yet never used them!!! ???[8D]

Yes it's very hilarious!;):D

GMMAT 03-25-2008 01:22 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 

Kind of like someone saying they have the most trauma causing head on the market.....bar none......when they have tried relatively few broadheadsand aresaying that basedon their resultsfromless than one season and acouple of deer, I'm just saying.
I told you WHY I said that, also....and you didn't print that;). How many other heads out there have a 2" cutting surface? THAT is why I said that.

Also...."couple of deer"? Surely you jest.....lol;)

NEW61375 03-25-2008 02:11 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT


Kind of like someone saying they have the most trauma causing head on the market.....bar none......when they have tried relatively few broadheadsand aresaying that basedon their resultsfromless than one season and acouple of deer, I'm just saying.
I told you WHY I said that, also....and you didn't print that;). How many other heads out there have a 2" cutting surface? THAT is why I said that.

Also...."couple of deer"? Surely you jest.....lol;)
Jeff,
Like I said in the other thread I see why you use them and like them. You have had good success with them. Does that make them the end all cure all broadhead? Not to me, but that is because I have had similiar success with other brands of broadheads and the allure of the Rage is not enough to pull "me" from my tried and true or make me think there is nothing that can compare.

In the interest of full disclosure your whole post is below, I saw nowhere after my post in that thread where you responded to me, I did see the link to the doe kill before me. I just quoted the part aboutthe Rage being "most traumatic" ....bar none because that would seem to imply you have tried the rest:


If your setup will push it.......I don't think there's a more devastating BH out there. If your setup won't......I'd go with a more traditional COC head.

At 300+fps and 80+#'s of KE.......I don't worry about whether mine will or won't. I KNOW I have the most trauma inflicting BH on the tip of my arrow that is made......bar none.

I shoot the Rage.

Good luck.
And I wasn't trying to slight you by saying a couple deer, I didn't remember exactlywhen you switched from your Muzzys and how many deer you took total with the Rage. There are many broadheads with large cutting diameters, Trophy Ridge has three I can think of with 2" CD (Strick nine, Hammerhead, Buckblaster @ 2 3/4") Not to mention all the ones that are between 1 1/2" and 1 3/4" from a slew of different companies.

Different strokes, I'm not much for the newest/next big thing type products but that definitely doesn't mean they aren't good, better than everything else? If yousay so.



buttonbuckmaster 03-25-2008 02:18 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 
Guys, I really didn't intend to make this into a Rage vs the archery world thread. We've been down that road enough lately. If a big BH is your thing....why not go all out..thats my question. If 2 inch diameter is good, wouldn't 2 3/4 be better?;)

I've never been unhappy with a BH I've hunted with. When I have changed brands, its always been to something that caught my eye or looked to perform better that my current one, not the latest greatest or the head that XYZ pro staffer is using.

GMMAT 03-25-2008 02:18 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 
2" cutting surface.........with a head that opens on impact. That's what I base my assertion on.

I just haven't seen nor heard of anything that's "better". I have no ties to the rage company. If something better comes out.....I'll tip my arrow with it.

mobow 03-25-2008 03:08 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 

ORIGINAL: GMMAT

I follow that NEW......what you're saying (and I think the recall was limited to the 3 blade rage head).....but I find it VERY funny that the largest detractors of this head have never tried it....and never intend to try it......yet they know something else is "The best", or...better than the rage head. I've just asked to see the damage the "best" is inflicting....and let's compare.

You know....if someone just says....I'm gonna use a slick trick (or whatever).....more power to 'em. I don't see why all the insecurity over the rage head abounds, though. You can't post a rage thread in this forum without having the people aforementined (who've never used it....and never intend to use it) coming in and denouncing it.

It's really hilarious, dontcha think?:)
Jeff, it's not that I don't agree with you, I do. I've used the Rage, I've got buddies that use the Rage, they're freakin incredible. I also agree that folks that have never used them, and never WILL use them, denounce them.

But what I think is equally as hilarious is EVERY Rage thread you do the exact opposite. Opinions are just that, and I'm don't see the need to continue shoving Rage down our throat. We all know you like them, and you should. But think about this.....

Isn't how you handle equal to how the others handle it, just with a differing viewpoint? Shoot, when I see a Rage thread, I stay out. I already know what you're going to say, they're all the same.

I think you know what I'm getting at here. Sometimes pushing a viewpoint does more harm than good. ;)

Planter 03-25-2008 03:19 PM

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?
 
There are a dozen heads out there both mech and fixed that will do the job as well as the Rage and when I can't find the head I have used for so many years I sure might try them.
I guess I just don't understand the need to try a new BH every year. I like knowing that my bow is gonna be shooting pretty much where I left her..If it works why fix it. Those rages sure leave some scary holes and help with marginal shots but that can only be a benifit..


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