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RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?

I'm trying rage this year...

However....NAP spitfire XP's 3 blade 100gr.have been the best heads I've ever used.....

Next tothe NAP .....theVortex during the early to mid-90's worked sweet as well.....o-ring or not...they put deer down with big trails and big holes...

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?

I know they are popular, but I just can't chance it. When that big deer walks by I want fail proof gear, and mechanicals have failed more than I would like to see.
If I put on a fixed blade I know it will 100% get the job done.Something like this is what I will be going with.

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_79647_400014007_400000000_400014000_400-14-7

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?

Only time will tell if rage is a fad or can become an established brand. Ask me in two years:eek:

I havent used the rage, but still would like to try them out sometime. I was actually close to buying them last fall, but still have a few nagging questions that have been entirely unanswered. Everyone talks about huge entry holes, but no mention of exit hole size...I have heard one shot and the blades are done, which means the blades bend significantly? I want a head that cuts a swath all the way through the deer, not just part way. Dont show me hide with a 2" hole in it, show me heart and lungs with 2" holes in them. Take a pic of the exit hole too. Dont get me wrong, what I have seen about the rage impresses me and I know they can work, but I still would like to better understand them before going with them myself.

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ORIGINAL: NEW61375

Let me clarify that I have no problem with the Rage head and have never really denounced it, I don't/haven't used them for my own reasons. Namely the recall and the fact that I don't like the looks of them(I know, not the best reason just being honest). I am just pointing out the fact that while they are popular there are many broadheads on the marketproducing similiar results.While I may not shoot the RageI can read and formulate opinions basedon other information as I do with many products. I won't criticize them but I willcomment on thembased on what I have read andother broadhead results I have seen(comparetively that is). They are probablygood headsbut if you think their popularity does not have anything to do with being the next "big thing" and lots of advertising dollarsthen just wait a couple of seasons until the next big thing comes out.

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I follow that NEW......what you're saying (and I think the recall was limited to the 3 blade rage head).....but I find it VERY funny that the largest detractors of this head have never tried it....and never intend to try it......yet they know something else is "The best", or...better than the rage head. I've just asked to see the damage the "best" is inflicting....and let's compare.

You know....if someone just says....I'm gonna use a slick trick (or whatever).....more power to 'em. I don't see why all the insecurity over the rage head abounds, though. You can't post a rage thread in this forum without having the people aforementined (who've never used it....and never intend to use it) coming in and denouncing it.

It's really hilarious, dontcha think?:)

:)Kind of like someone saying they have the most trauma causing head on the market.....bar none......when they have tried relatively few broadheadsand aresaying that basedon their resultsfromless than one season and acouple of deer, I'm just saying.

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At 300+fps and 80+#'s of KE.......I don't worry about whether mine will or won't. I KNOW I have the most trauma inflicting BH on the tip of my arrow that is made......bar none.

I shoot the Rage.

Good luck.

I don t use mechanical heads cause I have had problems with other types in the past..BUT HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE THE LOOKS OF THE RAGE??????????

I just don't. I love my Grim Reapers and they make very large holes going in and coming out as well as break bones. I think they cut differently on impact the Rage 2 blade for example the pics I have seen have been impressive, like long slits as opposed tothe grim Reaper holes I have witnessed were not as long but still very large round holes and they aretough on bone. The main requirements for me are accuracy, durability, sharpness, and heavy blood trails. Many broadheads fit the bill. If you shoot a deer with a Rageand I shoot one with a Reaper and yours runs 70 yards and dies and mine runs 50 yards and dies does that make my broadhead better? No, just like the looks of the entry hole doesn't amount to a whole lot either, it's just a small part of the bigger picture. The thread asks why Rageis"top dog"I think it has to do with lots of advertising dollars and the next big thing mentalitybut I would agree that positiveresults and good "word of mouth" advertisng have helped it as well. Give it some time there will bea new "top dog" broadhead shortly, I probably won't rush out to buy them either unless I happen to be out picking up a couple of new bows.;)

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their top dog like the buck roar is in calls,advertising and archerydepartmentspushing them.these people sound like commercials.
being a vortex user for many many years, i tried the rage 3 blade and i can say it kills deer but its to much work, blade retaining system is the worst i've used.not worth the money when my vortex heads leaves awesome holes and most deer die in sight.
rage is a good head just not the one for me.

RE: Big mechanicals....why is Rage top dog?

Nothing is guarenteed with human element involved.

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Everyone talks about huge entry holes, but no mention of exit hole size...

At least 2". I have photos if you're really interested.

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I have heard one shot and the blades are done, which means the blades bend significantly?

I've never experienced bent blades.....and I admit to sharpening and re-using the heads.

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I want a head that cuts a swath all the way through the deer, not just part way.

Only one of 6 was not a complete pass-thru. I NEVER got those results with a Muzzy.

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Dont show me hide with a 2" hole in it, show me heart and lungs with 2" holes in them.

It stands to reason that a 2"+ entrance hole and a 2" exit hole = a 2" incision thru and thru.

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Take a pic of the exit hole too.

upon request I can show these......but there's a link in this thread to a shot with a 4"+ entrance hole and a 2"(+?) exit hole.

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The main requirements for me are accuracy, durability, sharpness, and heavy blood trails.

Good requirements. They mirror mine.

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Everyone talks about huge entry holes, but no mention of exit hole size...

At least 2". I have photos if you're really interested.

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I have heard one shot and the blades are done, which means the blades bend significantly?

I've never experienced bent blades.....and I admit to sharpening and re-using the heads.

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I want a head that cuts a swath all the way through the deer, not just part way.

Only one of 6 was not a complete pass-thru. I NEVER got those results with a Muzzy.

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Dont show me hide with a 2" hole in it, show me heart and lungs with 2" holes in them.

It stands to reason that a 2"+ entrance hole and a 2" exit hole = a 2" incision thru and thru.

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Take a pic of the exit hole too.

upon request I can show these......but there's a link in this thread to a shot with a 4"+ entrance hole and a 2"(+?) exit hole.

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The main requirements for me are accuracy, durability, sharpness, and heavy blood trails.

Good requirements. They mirror mine.

Thank you for addressing my questions Jeff. Were you one of those guys that was looking for replacement blades middle of the past season? Just wondering why there was such a clamor for replacement blades if they were not bending(or otherwise badly damaging) the blades....nobody wanted to resharpen them?

I have checked your pics too and your point is noted. However, I still would like to know why (although still large) the exit holes are smaller than the entry? Assuming the blades are still strait, why is it smaller?

I am just trying to clarify a couple things in my head.

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I love it when guys say things like "mechanicals failing"... I guess they have never lost a deer with a fixed head, broke a blade, or had ANY arrow flight issues. I've had more "failures" with fixed heads I guess....

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You're welcome....and YES!...I was one of the ones looking for replacement blades. I can tell you this....right now....if they're not PLENTIFUL this season....I will be switching to the Rocky Mtn. Snypers. I ended up buying 9 heads, last year....and re-using a couple that were shot. I don't feel like there was anything wrong with the blades.....but if they're readily available....I'll replace v. re-sharpen and re-use.

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I have checked your pics too and your point is noted. However, I still would like to know why (although still large) the exit holes are smaller than the entry? Assuming the blades are still strait, why is it smaller?

The only time I experienced this is on quartering away shots. The angle allowed for the larger entrance hole. I can only assume the shaft starightened out the arrow in time for the exit wound. That's my theory, anyway.